Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
why do you think there's been so many pages in so little time?!To be fair it got buried with Di Marzio praise rather quickly.
Things have changed. Juve wanted us to pay them €120m and pay Raiola separately. Something we've been unwilling to do. We have now raised our bid to Juve and now agreed to talk with Raiola on his payment. CDS who were the first to say we had raised our bid say, we have now bid €115m and offering Raiola €15m. So total outlay is €130m.
Yep. I assumed Friday.
We'll get it done. Get the lube ready.
We'll get it done. Get the lube ready.
The background of all these Pogba tweets is white. He's defo off to Madrid. 
Is he the reliable one or is that another Hurst?
That what I was asking myself. He basically repeated what he's been claiming for days. "It's just Raiola's fee", "Transfer as good as done", "No more than 48hrs".
Not saying the transfer won't happen, but the religious belief in self proclaimed twitter Nostradamuses like DiMarzio is amazing
So now we'll haggle with Raiola because he'll want at least 20%... And 20% of 115 million is 23 million. He'll want 23 million as opposed to 15 million, and once again we wait more and more till United and Raiola can come to a conclusion which won't be soon.
kinell.
While being 'unhappy' to join Real?
Looks like this is close, but I think the fear of a late Madrid move this past week has been valid. Part of the reason we had felt so confident was that the press declared Real had dropped their interest. When they started reporting that may not be the case, concern was natural the longer his dragged.
The MEN is far from perfect but he is above average for this thread
The press said Madrid was interested sometime last week but we find out today they havent even made a bid.
He gets a bit of flak at times as the MEN isn't the best but I actually think he's fairly decent.
He knows feck all.
Di MarziON and RomanON
This seems like basically the same news I've been reading for a week and a half now...
Well as long as it stays that way his is a goer. Any serious Madrid move will be a problem though I suspect.
And worth every pound/euro/dollar. Have you seen the Reds midfield and their poor setpiece play?
Surely a title change is in order, even if it only lasts until the usual bad news in the morning, the current one is crap.
They are still too far behind, even if they bid tonight imo. We've spent ages on the "Raiola problem" and are only about to conclude it soon-ish.
Just a few days ago, Juve supposedly rejected our bid. So this is progress and for the first time Di Marzio has said a timeline for a medial.
First mention of Medicals! It's progress lads.
It's not mate. Talksport is owned by Wireless which has just been bought by News UK. If the deal goes through talksport will be part of a stable which, yes, includes the Sun but also includes the Times and the Wall Street Journal, which are at the opposite end of the scale.
I can handle two more days
Amazing, its like they sat there waiting for any positive news for United fans to counter it with this. Great click baiting to be honest, the article will get high views at this moment.
When this saga is over can someone post a timeline of events. Should be quite amusing.
Come on, Perez. Dust off that fax machine.
The rest? I thought this was the Pogba forum. The Leading official Paul Pogba Red Cafe Raiola forum.I was just thinking - for all we know, we could have officially confirmed the signing of Matuidi today (or any other player for that matter) - is anyone actually checking the rest of the forum!?
we will comfortably make 40k at this rate. I may end up with 1500 post alone
@VanGaalEra will be at 2k by then
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Do they actually have their own sources as most of the stories i see other than opinion pieces are other news outlets like AS.
Fantastic news to come home to. Di Marzio and Romano are great journos and just shows how shite ESPN, De Brun and Palmeri are.
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I read they the were linking the news with The Sun which was why colin Murray resigned.
C'mon guys, let's break 1000 pages in two days! We can do it!
*Turns off lights*..*Brings out paper towels*..
You guys talk like this Di Marzio is the Walter Cronkite of football journalism or something.
1) Based on so may quotes - there is the "Raiola (and maybe Pogba) has 20% of Pogba sell fee" from when he first went to Juve - so if they sell him for 100m then he gets 20m, if they sell him for 30m then he gets 6m ... 20% of whatever he sells for. So Juve would not be getting the full amount of whatever United pay Juve for Pogba.
2) Raiola is the agent brokering the deal between United and Juve and in these cases the agents have a certain fee they get from brokering the deal. So is that also supposed to be 20% and where it gets muddy is which club is responsible for paying that brokering fee. If it wasn't Raiola brokering the deal - then whoever it was would still get the fee.
The fact that Raiola is basically getting to double-dip into the deal seems to be the cause of all these negotiations/complexity between the 3 parties especially considering the overall deal amount. If this was a smaller transfer, then probably won't be that drawn out. Just imagine if Juve wants to get to keep 100m - then that means we need to pay them 125m. Then say agent fees are even 15% of the actual deal - that means that's another 18.75m to Railoa someon has to pay but, Juve don't want to pay it and we don't want to pay the full amount. Raiola himself stands to get 43.75m - so he is not likely to want to forgo it. Juve have probably been trying to drop some of that 20% because he is going to get such a large chunk from the overall agent fees - United are already paying 100m and don't want to get stuck paying the whole agent fees on their own or then Juve should drop their overall asking price so then United can cover the agent fees.
So each side probably trying to get concessions and it seems like each side wants the deal to happen - so they are all working to get the best possible and from the sounds of it, most of it has been sorted and now just have to get that final negotiation out of the way. Hopefully that happens soon so we can go into the season with what should be a key player for us.
2) Raiola is the agent brokering the deal between United and Juve and in these cases the agents have a certain fee they get from brokering the deal. So is that also supposed to be 20% and where it gets muddy is which club is responsible for paying that brokering fee. If it wasn't Raiola brokering the deal - then whoever it was would still get the fee.
The fact that Raiola is basically getting to double-dip into the deal seems to be the cause of all these negotiations/complexity between the 3 parties especially considering the overall deal amount. If this was a smaller transfer, then probably won't be that drawn out. Just imagine if Juve wants to get to keep 100m - then that means we need to pay them 125m. Then say agent fees are even 15% of the actual deal - that means that's another 18.75m to Railoa someon has to pay but, Juve don't want to pay it and we don't want to pay the full amount. Raiola himself stands to get 43.75m - so he is not likely to want to forgo it. Juve have probably been trying to drop some of that 20% because he is going to get such a large chunk from the overall agent fees - United are already paying 100m and don't want to get stuck paying the whole agent fees on their own or then Juve should drop their overall asking price so then United can cover the agent fees.
So each side probably trying to get concessions and it seems like each side wants the deal to happen - so they are all working to get the best possible and from the sounds of it, most of it has been sorted and now just have to get that final negotiation out of the way. Hopefully that happens soon so we can go into the season with what should be a key player for us.