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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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That was effectively the equivalent of BBC website back then, so if it was on there you knew it was going to happen.

Page 312 - now that was the old equivalent of Twitter!

Was that the gossip page? I remember reading that and you'd have a little chat with your mate but both of you would have just one paragraph of information and that would be the end of it. Not 1000 journalists then jumping out to say they knew the story first kind of thing.
 
This discussion on valuation is something I just don't get. People seem to have a massively distorted view of the game thanks to Ronaldo. So, just for the sake of it, let's go slightly further back in the game. Before Ronaldo (let's forget the pesky Kaka fee), Zidane was the most expensive player in the world. He cost Real Madrid GBP 57 Mn at the age of 29. He only ever scored 10 or more league goals in a season once (for Bordeaux in 1992-93). His season-high for goals scored was 12 (across all competitions). Here's the context:

Age: 29
Resale value: 0
Real Madrid income (from Deloitte Money League) in 2000/01: 138 Mn Euros
That figure today stands at 577 Mn Euros

Before Zidane, the record-holder was Figo. He had a nearly identical scoring record to Zidane.

My point is that people have got this massively mistaken idea that clubs pay / should pay for players based on the goal-scoring prowess alone. Fact is, this view has been massively distorted by Ronaldo's (and Messi's) goal-scoring exploits. Take them aside and you'll realise that before these guys, a player who scored 20+ a season was a phenomenon. 25 in the league? That was considered a minor miracle.

When you look at Pogba, he's (at just 23) scoring as many as Zidane was scoring (for the same club) when Madrid made their move. As a % of revenues, the proposed fee is dwarfed by what Madrid paid for both Zidane and Figo.

Even for United (mentioned long time ago on this same thread), fee as % of revenue will not be the highest for Pogba (Rio and Veron will remain higher). Those above him in the table were not goalscorers either.

Hmm... just glad to have got that off my chest. Irritates me no end when rival fans start this rubbish... Maddens me when some of our lot do the same!

Great post
 
oh god. I can see it now, someone will ask about pogba, he will say he expects him back at training, and this thread is going to commit muppet suicide for the next 24 hours :lol::lol:

:lol: For what it’s worth, I don’t think he’ll talk about Pogba at all, the press have probably been told not to ask anything about the transfer.
 
How many kids in the world started supporting madrid because zidane plays there, and still supports madrid long after zidane retires.

In the long run buying marquee players pays. You just dont count it in a year.
 
Yep I reckon if it gets done, it will be very close to the deadline day.
So Juventus have spent most of the Pogba money and they have given Dybala Pogba's #10 shirt, but you think Pogba is going to go back to training and playing for Juventus for the rest of the month? Don't think so.
 
I'm going by what Jose is said in the press conference yesterday that in a couple of days we will have a new midfielder! I reckon Monday/Tuesday it will be done and official
 
Right so if he's supposed to fly in today, can someone find all the flights from New York to Manchester, get some spies down to Carrington and OT to look out for helicopters, cover all the bases to fuel our muppet filled weekend
 
So Juventus have spent most of the Pogba money and they have given Dybala Pogba's #10 shirt, but you think Pogba is going to go back to training and playing for Juventus for the rest of the month? Don't think so.
That isn't confirmed yet. In fact, do we even know whether that photo of the Dybala #10 kits were real or not?
 
Right so if he's supposed to fly in today, can someone find all the flights from New York to Manchester, get some spies down to Carrington and OT to look out for helicopters, cover all the bases to fuel our muppet filled weekend

A flight arrived from JFK at 10.30am today :drool: You never know

I think the next one is tomorrow morning.
 
Well I don't believe reports.

Even Duncan Castles who seems to have the inside track on this said it would be done before last weekend.

The Italian journos have said it would be announced every day this week and Sky said he would fly today. All have been wrong (well barring sky but they havent mentioned it since so I presume it's bs).

His holiday has ended, the excuses for delaying this are drying up. Leads me to believe the BBC guy who said he was told there still was no deal.

If we were just down to final paperwork and that everything was agreed, surley they could just make an announcment.

I expect we will hear something today / tomorrow unless we have hit a hitch.
Again, why would they make an announcement before signing? That makes zero sense. That would just be to make people like you sleep better. But then you'd cry more when it falls through at last moment
 
Perhaps we really were very close to agreeing a deal with Juventus a couple of weeks ago when it was reported but we couldn't get the deal done and they had a change of mind? I really doubt that a deal that was agreed over a week ago would still be kept a secret by both clubs, makes zero sense.
It makes plenty of sense, if they were just haggling over the final little bits. There are 4 parties to satisfy in this deal, the player, his agent and both clubs. Nothing will be announced until there is a signature. Why do people find that hard to comprehend?
 
It makes plenty of sense, if they were just haggling over the final little bits. There are 4 parties to satisfy in this deal, the player, his agent and both clubs. Nothing will be announced until there is a signature. Why do people find that hard to comprehend?
I agree, but regarding the bolded we have announced players before medical and contracts signings before, so I think people can assume we'll do it again?
 
This discussion on valuation is something I just don't get. People seem to have a massively distorted view of the game thanks to Ronaldo. So, just for the sake of it, let's go slightly further back in the game. Before Ronaldo (let's forget the pesky Kaka fee), Zidane was the most expensive player in the world. He cost Real Madrid GBP 57 Mn at the age of 29. He only ever scored 10 or more league goals in a season once (for Bordeaux in 1992-93). His season-high for goals scored was 12 (across all competitions). Here's the context:

Age: 29
Resale value: 0
Real Madrid income (from Deloitte Money League) in 2000/01: 138 Mn Euros
That figure today stands at 577 Mn Euros

Before Zidane, the record-holder was Figo. He had a nearly identical scoring record to Zidane.

My point is that people have got this massively mistaken idea that clubs pay / should pay for players based on the goal-scoring prowess alone. Fact is, this view has been massively distorted by Ronaldo's (and Messi's) goal-scoring exploits. Take them aside and you'll realise that before these guys, a player who scored 20+ a season was a phenomenon. 25 in the league? That was considered a minor miracle.

When you look at Pogba, he's (at just 23) scoring as many as Zidane was scoring (for the same club) when Madrid made their move. As a % of revenues, the proposed fee is dwarfed by what Madrid paid for both Zidane and Figo.

Even for United (mentioned long time ago on this same thread), fee as % of revenue will not be the highest for Pogba (Rio and Veron will remain higher). Those above him in the table were not goalscorers either.

Hmm... just glad to have got that off my chest. Irritates me no end when rival fans start this rubbish... Maddens me when some of our lot do the same!

Bingo.
 
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I agree, but regarding the bolded we have announced players before medical and contracts signings before, so I think people can assume we'll do it again?
I doubt we've signed anyone before the other club had signed the agreement to sell
 
I doubt we've signed anyone before the other club had signed the agreement to sell
My mistake, I thought you meant the player signing the contract, not the club signing the agreement to release him. As you were. ;)
 
That's all well and fine but you are far too focused on goals. When roy keane broke the transfer record he didn't have many goals either but that isn't the point of the transfer, neither with zidane or pogba, you don't buy players like that for goals so I think your point is distorted.
What are you talking about? His point was exactly the same as the one you just made. Goals aren't the be all and end all for spending a lot of money on a player.
 
Jose Mourinho Reveals the Reason Why Man Utd Missed Out on Bayern Signing Renato Sanches
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ByScott Saunders
6 AUG 2016

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho has revealed the club lost out on the signing of Renato Sanches this summer because he arrived at the club too late.


Bayern Munich won the race to sign the Portuguese wonderkid before Euro 2016, even while United were initially primed to be the ones to sign him within media quarters. United's appointment of Mourinho however dragged on a little too long, and according to the man himself, it meant that Bayern had their chance to steal in.

He told Portuguese channel Sport TV: “I arrived late. I signed in May, we started talking a week before, but completely out of the process. If I had arrived earlier, I’d fight for him.


“Manchester United watched Renato many times and maybe I did it even more. In so much time at home, I watched many Benfica and Portuguese league games, I got to know the boy better with time.


“He’s in a big club, in a league where he’ll certainly be the champion. The club have players of very high level which belong to the structure, a little like Benfica.”


United are instead set to sign Juventus superstar Paul Pogba in a world record deal this weekend, and separate reports from Manchester Evening News claim that Mourinho green-lit a move for Pogba upon arrival while vetoing a move for Miralem Pjanic in the process.


The Bosnia-Herzegovina midfielder signed for Juventus from domestic rivals Roma earlier this summer, and is expected to take Pogba's place in the Italian champions' midfield. He joined for £25m - a snip of the expected £112m sum United will pay for the Frenchman - but Mourinho is reported to have made a decision early on that Pogba was the man he wanted.


Had he been able to get Renato Sanches, however, you wonder if the Pogba deal would ever have taken place.
Very interesting. Simply because this means that José's first option was also probably Renato. Ryan Giggs also said that we missed out on him and so did he....
U would wonder that if we got the boy, then would they actually have gone for Pogba and the circus along with it. But then again, when we missed out on Shearer we got Cantona, and we missed out on Ronaldinho we got Ronaldo. So probably that's how things pan out
But overall very interesting
 
Very interesting. Simply because this means that José's first option was also probably Renato. Ryan Giggs also said that we missed out on him and so did he....
U would wonder that if we got the boy, then would they actually have gone for Pogba and the circus along with it. But then again, when we missed out on Shearer we got Cantona, and we missed out on Ronaldinho we got Ronaldo. So probably that's how things pan out
But overall very interesting
Castles was the first to break the news about Pogba. And in the report, he says Mourinho sees Pogba as the only option after missing out on Sanches. The number of times we scouted Sanches suggest to me,he was our first choice.
 
If missing out on Sanches means that we get Pogba instead then I'm happy we missed out on him.