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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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this has dragged on longer than it should've. glad regardless that this is finally confirmed to be happening by the club.
 
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Maybe.

Even if it didn't this is a stupid amount for an agent fee, and should still be considered in the price involved of bringing Pogba to United.
Do you think Mendes didn't get a lot of money when C.Ronaldo came to us? Or Hazard agent when he moved to Chelsea when agents fee was the reason we didn't get him? Of course he did, but no one talk about that and no one add that sum to the transfer fee. Why we should now?
 
Great business by Woodward. The fact they've projected earning £40m in his image rights alone in the first year shows how "worthwhile" the fee is.
 
It's still brokerage fee. The quantum of it doesn't dictate whether it should be lumped with the transfer fee, which is €105m



Do you think Mendes didn't get a lot of money when C.Ronaldo came to us? Or Hazard agent when he moved to Chelsea when agents fee was the reason we didn't get him? Of course he did, but no one talk about that and no one add that sum to the transfer fee. Why we should now?

I didn't say it should be lumped with the transfer fee. The transfer fee to Juve is obvious. I said the agent fee, which 1) is a stupid amount to the norm and 2) isn't even what we should have paid (Juve should have), should be involved in the cost of bringing Pogba to us.

You don't just ignore 20m from the whole transaction when we shouldn't have paid Raiola in the first place.
 
Rarely. People talked about this one because of the size of the fee and who should be paying it and what the split should be.

Doubt it will be talked about any more now.

You're right, it shouldn't be talked about. But you and I both know that rival fans and some in the media will bang on about it - but not the actual price, oh no, they'll keep saying £105 million until it becomes fact. The British press are always great at mixing Euros and Pounds.
 
Do you think Mendes didn't get a lot of money when C.Ronaldo came to us? Or Hazard agent when he moved to Chelsea when agents fee was the reason we didn't get him? Of course he did, but no one talk about that and no one add that sum to the transfer fee. Why we should now?
This was different though, Raiola owned a certain percentage of Pogba's rights so his cost definitely includes the agent fee. It's still relatively a bargain though.
 
Who cares about transfer fees? If you want a player, just pay whatever it takes to get him or you will be left behind and we finally learned this.
 
It's still brokerage fee. The quantum of it doesn't dictate whether it should be lumped with the transfer fee, which is €105m

Where will this brokerage fee come from? Fall from the sky?

Of course the cost to us is any transfer fee + agent fee. How is this even debatable?

The other poster was right.
 
I didn't say it should be lumped with the transfer fee. The transfer fee to Juve is obvious. I said the agent fee, which 1) is a stupid amount to the norm and 2) isn't even what we should have paid (Juve should have), should be involved in the cost of bringing Pogba to us.

You don't just ignore 20m from the whole transaction when we shouldn't have paid Raiola in the first place.
Well, then let's wait till there's any sort of information about the quantum of the agent fees and the breakdown as to who paid it.
 
Well, then let's wait till there's any sort of information about the quantum of the agent fees and the breakdown as to who paid it.

I don't think they are usually revealed, but Di Marzio and the like eluded to the agent fees when the deal was held up. The selling club owed Raiola the 20m, but Juve wanted us to pay it instead. We eventually caved - and given the odd nature of such a payment, it shouldn't be ignored really.
 
Where will this brokerage fee come from? Fall from the sky?

Of course the cost to us is any transfer fee + agent fee. How is this even debatable?

The other poster was right.
Transfer fees are declared standalone, without agent brokerage, registration, attorney and other fees, as well as wages.
 
This whole window was part of a "masterplan". Mourinhos agent Jorge Mendes clearly knew it would be difficult to get his major clients to United this summer given we weren't in the Champions League, so Jose, Jorge and Ed Woodward planned to target Mino Raiola's best clients this year to improve the squad and this will surely be followed by United signing Jorge Mendes' players in the next summer window.

Thats the window I cannot wait for. When Jorge Mendes drops a catalogue of all his players on Eds desk. Summer 2017 isngoing to be one that dreams are made of.

Great strategy boys. I salute you.
 
I don't think they are usually revealed, but Di Marzio and the like eluded to the agent fees when the deal was held up. The selling club owed Raiola the 20m, but Juve wanted us to pay it instead. We eventually caved - and given the odd nature of such a payment, it shouldn't be ignored really.
Di Marzio currently only talks about brokerage fees and that we are obligated to pay €105m to Juventus. No one is mentioning the 20% cut anymore.
 
I'm pretty sure the brokerage fees being talked about are a separate issue from the supposed €20m for Raiola which was to do with some agreement he had with Juve.

We will pay the 'brokerage' fee, which is the standard agent fee associated with every transfer ever to take place.

Anything else is between him and Juve.
 
Transfer fees are declared standalone, without agent brokerage, registration, attorney and other fees, as well as wages.

If United have to pay him 20% to Mino of any fee that they paid Juve, then it's not like the usual agent fee, but an unusual case. The cost to United will still be 1.2 times whatever is paid to Juvenuts.
 
47 odd posts of mine in this thread not wanting pogba to join United and against United spending so much money. Now that he will be a United player. I hope he shuts all the the people who were against this deal and helps United win major silverware and doesn't feck off to Madrid for his dream move in the next 3-4 years.

I hope Jose manages this guy and the team well now as we seem to have a lot of huge characters in the team. Jose has managed such players before. Hope everything works out of us.
 
If United have to pay him 20% to Mino of any fee that they paid Juve, then it's not like the usual agent fee, but an unusual case. The cost to United will still be 1.2 times whatever is paid to Juvenuts.
Yes, however there is no talk currently, of any money being paid to Raiola apart from the usual agent fee, which happens with any transfer.

Or, in a nutshell:
I'm pretty sure the brokerage fees being talked about are a separate issue from the supposed €20m for Raiola which was to do with some agreement he had with Juve.

We will pay the 'brokerage' fee, which is the standard agent fee associated with every transfer ever to take place.

Anything else is between him and Juve.
 


To summarise Di Marzio:

In these minutes the French midfielder is flying right into Manchester with a plane departed from Nice to 10.15. At 13.00 will support the medical tests, the first act of his second spell in Manchester. Juventus from the 'Red Devils' here is the 2.0 Pogba at United.
 
Di Marzio currently only talks about brokerage fees and that we are obligated to pay €105m to Juventus. No one is mentioning the 20% cut anymore.

If you go back a few hundred pages you'll find it. Think Di Marzio said something like - Man Utd pay agent fee for Juve but Juve will pay the tax.

Can't remember the exact tweet/article.
 


To summarise Di Marzio:

In these minutes the French midfielder is flying right into Manchester with a plane departed from Nice to 10.15. At 13.00 will support the medical tests, the first act of his second spell in Manchester. Juventus from the 'Red Devils' here is the 2.0 Pogba at United.

Time to fire up the flight trackers again!
 
47 odd posts of mine in this thread not wanting pogba to join United and against United spending so much money. Now that he will be a United player. I hope he shuts all the the people who were against this deal and helps United win major silverware and doesn't feck off to Madrid for his dream move in the next 3-4 years.

I hope Jose manages this guy and the team well now as we seem to have a lot of huge characters in the team. Jose has managed such players before. Hope everything works out of us.

People need to focus on United and not Madrid. The future is the future and people dream up things like it being his dream club. It would make sense for Paul when you think about it BUT it wasn't such a dream that he made it happen now. So let's just focus on climbing back to the top and knocking them off their fecking perch .. if we do that? Then it wouldn't be as inviting but of course we have to start competing again and I'm sure we will
 


To summarise Di Marzio:

In these minutes the French midfielder is flying right into Manchester with a plane departed from Nice to 10.15. At 13.00 will support the medical tests, the first act of his second spell in Manchester. Juventus from the 'Red Devils' here is the 2.0 Pogba at United.

Time to fire up the flight trackers again!
 
Yes, however there is no talk currently, of any money being paid to Raiola apart from the usual agent fee, which happens with any transfer.

Or, in a nutshell:

Sure. However, the transfer fees in the history books may go down as 89m paid to Juve, but in our accounting books it'll be Juve+0.2Juve if the earlier news of us paying the 20% fee Riola is owed by Juvenuts had any truth in them.
 
If you go back a few hundred pages you'll find it. Think Di Marzio said something like - Man Utd pay agent fee for Juve but Juve will pay the tax.

Can't remember the exact tweet/article.
There's been a lot said previously. But surely what should take precedence at this point in time is the latest reports: €105m + brokerage
 
What is the purpose of flight tracking really? We know his flight details, is there a need to monitor in the air? :lol: