David Moyes | West Ham in talks with him for managerial job

Lowering expectations is what he does. Remember when some fans on here bought into his nonsense and accepted top four as an unrealistic ambition for a few years?

What a grim time that was. Van Gaal gets stick on here but he was never as bad as Moyes was.
 
Telegram Sam said:
The most annoying aspect, is you know full well he'll probably do a number on us somehow :(
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Dude, it's not going to happen.
We have Jose, Pogba Ibra.
2 wins against them this season should be a formality.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
Don't think any Everton fans would describe Moyes' tenure as an outstanding achievement. Only an unambitious dullard like Moyes would describe his work as outstanding.
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Indeed. Many Everton fans wanted a change of regime, so that they could perhaps move up a level.
It's similar to Wenger. Many AFC fans want him gone because they know that Wenger will not take them any further and is merely treading water.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Good grief, don't you get it? Some people manager you'd make.

How about?

"We all know it will be tough, but we'll fight every step of the way. This squad are fighters, they showed that last season under Sam and look where he is now."

Rather than almost admitting defeat before he's even started.

Good grief, what a loser he is. Anyway, after they took the piss out of us, the fans will get what they deserve this season. :D
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With regards to your last line, I personally never wish bad on any employee of our club or ex-employee (except Tevez) and Sunderland is just full of them.
You actually think Moyes is clever enough to come up with such a statement? Moyes can't BS his way out of trouble, nor can he manage a top level team.
It is a blunt response but that's how he sees it, which is how everyone sees it as well
 
anant said:
With regards to your last line, I personally never wish bad on any employee of our club or ex-employee (except Tevez) and Sunderland is just full of them.
You actually think Moyes is clever enough to come up with such a statement? Moyes can't BS his way out of trouble, nor can he manage a top level team.
It is a blunt response but that's how he sees it, which is how everyone sees it as well
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No, which is the point, he is as dull as ditchwater.
 
I think the idea of Moyes as a steady pair of hands, or even, someone who is capable of lifting a team from relegation woes to upper midtable territory is outdated.

With the rise and (relative) success of smaller clubs like Swansea and Southampton who have made an effort to recruit players and managers into a stable club with a discernible philosophy Moyes may have been squeezed out of Premier League relevance.

No longer can Moyes hop past half a dozen teams with a rag tag collection of players and an ill fitting manager. Now he has wealthy, ambitious clubs at every turn. Instead of Alan Pardew's West Ham, he has Bilicic's awkward and effective Hammers side, the same can be said for the entrenchment the likes of Southampton, a wealthy Stoke, or even a Bournemouth - who exemplify the streamlined model clubs aspire to.

His predicament is worsened with the realisation - if the fears of Sunderland fears are to be believed - that funds are almost non - existent and morale at dangerously low levels. Whether Sunderland have the infrastructure to bypass these issues remains to be seen, yet nothing suggests Moyes has assimilitated new technical and tactical concepts from his time here, or in Spain. In fact, his reversion to Piennar etc paints a gloomy picture for Sunderland fans that their manager looks to be clinging to outdated and obsolete ideas of play and recruitment that will see him nowhere in the Premier League picture.
 
Thank you Davey for signing McMare and Love. Both were awful today. Rodwell playing CB.:lol:
 
Sunderlands last day business bonanza signing Hibbert, Osman and Lescott.

Moyes definitely going to sign one of them.
 
Bojan11 said:
Thank you Davey for signing McMare and Love. Both were awful today. Rodwell playing CB.:lol:
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It was his "bright" idea in the first place turning "the new Rio" (at the time) into a DM (for not being able to play like Jagielka I guess :smirk:). Now after his career is destroyed as average DM, Moyes probably Jagielka image trains him after Kaboul is seeking out.
 
Moyes is relatively young in managerial terms but he's being overtaken by those 10 years younger and ten times more imaginative.

He will keep Sunderland above the relegation parapet but that's about his level.
 
dogwithabone said:
Moyes is relatively young in managerial terms but he's being overtaken by those 10 years younger and ten times more imaginative.

He will keep Sunderland above the relegation parapet but that's about his level.
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:wenger: Really?

Mourinho, Acellotti are pretty much around same age and similar years as manager (Mourinho). And these are considered as veteran coach. Being average and being at one club for all these years, doesn't make one young in managerial term.This is his media friend biggest bs when he was given the job, so he could have been allowed time to learn the trade (!). Can't believe people still buy into this.
 
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People have been saying that he keeps mentioning the ten month stint because he keeps being asked about it. Well he wasn't in the Stelling interview.
 
Did any of the old United squad from his time here ever come out and destroy him in the media? I thought it was going to be in Rio's book but can't remember seeing it.
 
Terrible terrible manager.
Doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same line as a legendary manager such as LvG, let alone be compared with him.
 
Moyes following Fergie.

One of the most baffling decisions ever.
 
C3Pique said:
Did any of the old United squad from his time here ever come out and destroy him in the media? I thought it was going to be in Rio's book but can't remember seeing it.
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Seem to recall Ferdinand just saying Moyes kept changing his mind on what he wanted the players to do and his instructions were completely unclear.
 
Stretford End Phil said:
Moyes is a woeful manager. His excuses are as bad as his football. In any other industry he would have been hounded out - typical of the EPL that it recycles muppets.
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There are plenty of chancers in every walk of life.

Granted, it's pretty incredible a wet cardboard like Gollum can be one.
 
Was it Sunderland fans who cheered on the last day of the season when city took the title away from us in the last few minutes? I would say haha some revenge but I'm not that cruel, I wouldn't wish Moyes on my worst enemy.
 
Januzaj is exactly the sort of player who is perfect for a relegation battle. Great signing, Moyesy!
 
Hope a victory at their place on 8th April is the one that sends him down. If he's still there by then.
 
He won't last the season. I wouldn't be surprised if Defoe leaves before window shuts.

Think his complete and utter failure here ruined him. He isn't the man he was at Everton anymore.
 
I still dont understand how such an intelligent, experienced, and knowledgable manager like Ferguson chose him as our successor. It was going to be the biggest decision in our clubs history but the most obvious thing was to go for a highly experienced manager whos managed a super club before. It still boggles my mind. Maybe Fergie caught the scouse delusion syndrome and never recovered.
 
Cheesy said:
Nah, I just genuinely think he struggles to see Sunderland achieving anything more than a relegation battle.
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Who doesn't think that? They're a mess of a club with a really poor team. It's the fact that he's said it. I think he wants the fans and players to be prepared for the scrap to come, the one that everyone else can see a mile off.

Classical Mechanic said:
Surely his first half setup was to scrap points? McNair, Rodwell and Gooch in Midfield and the only remotely creative player was Januzaj.
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Yes he did, but the players didn't perform like that. The second half they did and the introduction of Lens and Pienaar tipped the balance for Sunderland. Far more aggression and power in the team to help press higher up. Gooch looked far more useful in the deeper role as opposed to the wider left position he took up in the first half.
 
Hull is in a worse situation than them and they still played decent football. Moyes is an idiot for saying that so early in the season. A little confidence could go a long way. It is his job to manage and motivate the team.
 
No manager should come out and basically rubbish his squads chances before the season has barely got going.....Beggars belief! Maybe Januzaj needs this wakeup call to get the shit out of dodge. No football fan deserves the doom mongerer that is Moyes..Sad, as he is still part of Utds history as regrettable and depressing that time was.
 
First manager to get sacked this season, heard it here first.
 
RedFish said:
No manager should come out and basically rubbish his squads chances before the season has barely got going.....Beggars belief! Maybe Januzaj needs this wakeup call to get the shit out of dodge. No football fan deserves the doom mongerer that is Moyes..Sad, as he is still part of Utds history as regrettable and depressing that time was.
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Just let it go, he is no longer our problem...
Using your own quote. "Time to move on"
 
It just beggars belief that a loser such as Moyes ever got the United job. Today's statement just sums him up perfectly, writing off his team's chances in August ffs. Like his tenure at OT with "we'll try and make it hard for Newcastle" and "we aspire to be like City". He messed up last week, by taking off Defoe after he equalized at City and replacing him with McNair, who promptly scored the winning own goal. One wonders what inspirational decision he will make next week :-) But, the Sunderland fans deserve him, after they cheered City's title win, when QPR stopped playing as soon as they were safe from relegation.
 
In his interview with Sheeves, on sky (not at today's game) - Moyes said United wasn't the only big job he was offered - anyone believing this? if so, what other offers did he have?
 
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