Hugely impressive given it was away to A Madrid. Sensational stuff.
Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)
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First point: In the Euros, in the SF vs Wales, Goal and the assist to make it 2 nil. He was directly responsible for 6 (second only to Griezmann's 8 for France) of Portugal's 9 goals in the tournament despite not playing in the final. Yet people still want to make out like he had nothing to do with them winning the tournament.
Secondly the UCL: "much lesser influence in the knock-outs" lol what? Without him we would not have even reached the final.
Cristiano so far this calendar year has 49 goals in 51 matches, won two of the biggest trophies available to him, while being integral in both and on top of that been part of a 29 game unbeaten streak for Madrid and the record equalling 14 game win streak in La Liga.
How the hell has Suarez had a better year? lol
What exactly does that mean "it's all on paper " ?
The goals , the trophies , the titles were all achieved on the fied of play his achievements are beyond belief , yes he has a massive ego , but this boy set out to be the best player in the world and worked his bxxxxxxs off to achieve it , an all time great I for one am just so pleased I got to see him in a United shirt don't knock him football will be the poorer when he has gone
I'm aware of Cristianos Performances, I watched every game of the Euros and I watch every Real Madrid game and Barcelona game because I don't want to miss seeing Messi and Ronaldo play due to the quality of both players.
There were better players at the Euros than Ronaldo and his performances weren't "world class" besides a few goals, the Hungary game was probably his best performance because he rallied the team. He was a poor captain too, his comments about Iceland were frankly stupid. Portugal were one of the worst teams at the tournament. But they won it and that's what the history books care about. All people mention is directly responsible for this amount of goals, or this amount of goals in this amount of games, but general performance he's not been at the level he used to be.
Still top 2/3 in the world don't get me wrong, still a tremendous player who belongs amongst the best in history of course but I don't think he should win the Balon d'Or this year and that's just my opinion.
I saw the Wolfsburg game you just showed (the performance wasn't that impressive by the way, if that performance is actually good to you), when it was something like his 49th free-kick without a goal? again at the weekend it was a break in the wall that lead to the goal, both instances he doesn't clear the wall with his free-kicks (even the Wolfsburg game) he's actually reliant on the wall breaking and not doing it's job to score, his free-kicks leave a lot to be desired.
Suárez was better over the year as an attacking threat, he gives so much to the team with his pressing and stretching of defences. You can say that Ronaldo has been integral to his team but then you can also say Messi reached the Copa America final for the third time and also won La Liga so again more consistent.
This isn't just some arbitrary statement either, I don't often get out of my chair in excitement with Ronaldo like I did in the 08/12 version of him. He just needs to get himself in the box and hope Bale, Modric, Kroos etc produce a bit of quality. Often Ronaldo will pass it out wide and use his positioning to get goals, he seldom dribbles past players now, but he's smarter now than he used to be and he has to opt to do this to play every game in the season.
With Ronaldo you get a lot of goals, maybe a stand-out performance other than goals 1 in 3 or 4 games, but that's inevitable with age. I just think last year given the style of play Suárez was more exciting, he offered more to the team and because of how he plays he gives Neymar and Messi an easier time, I'd actually argue that Real Madrid would win the League over Barcelona if they had Suárez instead of Benzema.
At the weekend his all round play was good the save from Oblak was tremendous by the way from the header. To win at the Calderon like Real did against Atlético was a good win. The goals were poor but Ronaldo did play very well, a performance he's not had in quite some time actually. for once his goals were poor but his performance was good, I think Real Madrid has the best balanced squad in the world right now though Barcelona do not have that, they've lost Xavi and Pedro and replaced those with Arda and Gomes, the only astute buy was Umtiti.
It depends on your metrics though for what is a better player because If you are talking about standout performances last year then its Messi, if you are talking about making the difference last year maybe Suárez but consistency with goals then Ronaldo (you say directly responsible for 6 goals in the Euros, Messi was directly responsible for 10 in Copa America) but didn't win the trophy it completely depends if you want to factor in team trophies, or just goals per game, performance levels what do you define as the best player.
It can't just be some arbitrary statistics that we bend to then suit what we feel is right, I guess that's why football is what it is though we all enjoy a different brand or style. Even as a Manchester United fan right now I enjoy watching Liverpool but we'll see with the Ballon d'Or this year, new voting system of-course. It'll be interesting.
For the record though I think people will vote for Ronaldo because they'll just look at trophies, the same when Löw won the coach of the year after Germany won the WC, but he didn't deserve it. I just don't think he deserves it this year.
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I guess Pepe Pepe deserves the Ballon dor as well?
Balon d'or bound. Haters gonna hate.
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its not like we got a record breaking fee or anything. plus we all had crystal balls to see how it would all turn out
Yup all in the Ronaldo era since 2004. What a player.
How can there possibly be an "issue" with Ronaldo?
If he's got a problem then the rest of the world's players are screwed.
Today I read that when Hugo Sánchez got the pichichi trophy with the record of goals in a season,38(record that later Cristiano broke and Messi destroyed) all the 38 goals were touching the ball only once, becoming purely a finisher.
The periodist of the article imagined if Cristiano could become in something similar for Madrid thanks to his quality with both legs and head.
The periodist of the article imagined if Cristiano could become in something similar for Madrid thanks to his quality with both legs and head.
It was so impressive how he played the striker role on Saturday, making me very curious of what he'll be like when he's 36. With his quality I really wouldn't even be surprised at all if he's still banging in 40 goals a season at Real Madrid, albeit playing in a more economical style.
What an absolutely tremendous player he is.
For me there's no way for CR7 to go down to the Alltimes top10.
Along with Gerd Muller, he's one of the best goalscorers of all times tho.
Those numbers are insane. But I could pick 3 or 4 players today that could be more dangerous (Bale Himself) than CR7 today. For me he's not even top 3 right now. But that's just my opnion.
Along with Gerd Muller, he's one of the best goalscorers of all times tho.
Those numbers are insane. But I could pick 3 or 4 players today that could be more dangerous (Bale Himself) than CR7 today. For me he's not even top 3 right now. But that's just my opnion.
Location: Beunos Aires ARG
Not true. 2000 was the best we ever played. He's one of the reasons for our success, not the reason.
And? Do you think everyone in Location: Buenos Aires ARG hates Ronaldo or something? He's been overrated due to stats, during the last two seasons.Griezmann alone has performed better during last season.
That doesn't make sense.
Who's your favourite player at the moment?
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Claiming Ronaldo isn't the best ever I can live with, but saying he isn't top 10 is just taking it a bit too far. Not as bad as that chelsea fool who claimed he was top30 at most but still quite ridiculous.
Name the 10 players who are better than him.
Name the 10 players who are better than him.
Top 10 of all time (And it's my opinion)
- Messi, Maradona, Pele
- Di Stefano
-Cryuff
- Beckembauer
- Zidane
- Best
- Ronaldo 9
- Platini
And I didn't think a lot to do it honestly.
There isn't a best ever and there isn't a best ten ever. There's just a group of players who are among the best, and Ronaldo and Messi are both a part of that group.
How old are you?
You think otherwise?
28.
My favorite meal is Asado/BBQ
My hair is brown
I'm Right footed like Cr7, and I don't have a beard.
You forgot to mention that you're also a wum.
I gave my opinion, and the first thing I said is that he's one of the best goalscorers of all time.
I think the bolded part is fair. However, it is your opinion and everyone of course has one but I would like to ask how much you actually have seen of Di Stefano, Cruyff, Beckenbauer Best, and Pele to come to the conclusions you have.
No, I don't. But I certainly think he's in with a shout after Messi.
What those two have been doing the last couple of years is unprecedented.
Youtube compilations, bro.
So you would base somebody's entire standing as a top 10 player of all time on you tube compilations which for the most part (unless it's a bloopers) only show a player at his best. I'm nearly 60 and saw George Best live numerous times but even with that and all the video compilations out there it would be really hard for me to make an objective judgment as to who was better between him and Ronaldo.
It was a sarcastic comment of course.
Wasn't this the guy that was posting all sorts of photos from Argentina on subways, taxis and billboards of the public saying please don't quit Messi after he threw his hissy fit after hitting his pen into space after the Copa America final?
Even though sarcasm is the lowest form of wit I obviously didn't appreciate it since it went straight over my head. It would appear therefore that I am completely witless. Sorry
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I'm only a couple of years younger than you and the majority of those on your list I haven't seen much of as they were before mine and your time so I am not sure why you're counting players you can't have seen much more than youtube compilations and read articles on. Zidane is absolutely nowhere near Ronaldo, its unbelievable the difference in quality between the two. R9 at his peak is probably better but he didn't have freakish consistency and longevity like the updated Ronaldo model.
No idea, mate.
Even though sarcasm is the lowest form of wit I obviously didn't appreciate it since it went straight over my head. It would appear therefore that I am completely witless. Sorry
It's not an easy job to detect sarcasm with so much bullshit being posted all the time.
I can't fecking wait
Still think his best "performances" came for Man Utd.
He was by no means shaping up to be a prolific goalscorer during his first few years with us. Infact some of his shooting technique was awful. He's worked probably harder than anyone to get where he's at and he deserves all the credit in the world for that. I just prefer "pure" footballers myself and I can only define that as players that every time they do something incredible I make some kind of exclamation. Haven't done that once with Ronaldo at real except for that ridiculous backheel goal.
He was by no means shaping up to be a prolific goalscorer during his first few years with us. Infact some of his shooting technique was awful. He's worked probably harder than anyone to get where he's at and he deserves all the credit in the world for that. I just prefer "pure" footballers myself and I can only define that as players that every time they do something incredible I make some kind of exclamation. Haven't done that once with Ronaldo at real except for that ridiculous backheel goal.
While I respect your overall opinion, if we all restricted our opinions to only players we have watched a literal majority of their games, many people shouldn't even give their opinions on current players let alone legends. I mean, not even professional scouts/sports journalists watch every game of the top 4 leagues at the same time and most journalists have their hands full trying to just cover one country and league.
http://footballia.net/ does an awesome job of keeping links up to huge numbers of historic games and I know I am not the only one to use that site all the time to watch old matches in full. its how I watched and learned even more about many of my childhood favorites like Socrates and Zico.
Great web!, I didn´t know it. So many good games...Probably my first choice will be Milan crushing Barça in 93/94
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