Did he hack into emails to promote one side ? If not then the situations aren't remotely analogous.
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Did he hack into emails to promote one side ? If not then the situations aren't remotely analogous.
Having dirt on republicans who hold all three branches of govt. is kinda handy, don't you think?
then you clearly weren't listening.
There were plenty of protests from the Brexit campaign, but those who are now so concerned about the threat to the integrity of the US presidential elections by foreign interference were then conspicuously silent.
I could make use of it, well actually I would probably end up dead, but someone else could make use of it.
I think it was the current UK Foreign Secretary, who was so wound up by Obama's interfering that he suggested he had an ancestral hate of the British, due to his Kenyan heritage.
I think the reasons the Russians prefer Trump over Hillary was because she is considered a hawk on US Russian relations, while Trump favours some type of Ostpolitik.
well, d'uh! Ya think?
if proven I would agree it rises to a very serious level requiring the highest non military response. Which begs the question why we were not in dialogue with them about the continuing deteriorating relationship.
In no way does it invalidate the election results.
We also need to consider the long term internal situation within our country.
A reinstalled Democratic president will never be accepted by any Republican and many non partisans as legitimate. Hillary would never be able to govern.
Its simply wishful thinking to pursue this route and calling for the Electors to change their votes, not to say highly damaging to the long term prospects of the Democratic party in the Mid West.
Forgive us, for responding to what you said, not what you meant to say.
It's OK if you are in agreement, hence the lack of threats to Scotland for the first minister being 'with her'
And yet you still needed to ask.
Because nothing Obama said was unreasonable, it was a fair warning that the US government would not be in a position to give the UK the quick and friendly trade deal that Brexit naively believed they would be able to negotiate. That the Brexiteers not only ignored his words and complained loudly about him interfering where his opinion was not welcome but also dredged up his ancestry in such an insulting fashion speaks volumes. That you can't see the bleeding difference between hostile covert interference in the democratic process and legitimate political debate sadly tells us all we need to know about the IQ level of the UK and US electorate and explains how Brexit and Trump have managed to turn this into the most politically damaging year since the outbreak of WWII and set us all on a course that may take as long, if not longer to recover from than WWII.
No two sets of circumstances will ever be exactly the same. It's always possible to shape your definition of what is unacceptable to fit your own needs. If the colours were reversed and the Russians had meddled on Hillary's behalf, the idea that this interference somehow called the election result into question would have been ridiculed by the media and people like yourself.
No, I didn't.
at the comparison to Obama.Just waiting for the mention of the bust of Churchill now.
So you're explaining why you're OK with it, I see. Your guy won.
You are forgiven.
Do you ever get bored of questioning other peoples intelligence?
but did.
I expected no less.
And I'm sure Donald would have not complained about rigging, the thought would have never crossed his tiny mind.
I'm not questioning anybody's intelligence, I'm stating that people who can support such stupid causes are stupid and I've yet to see any evidence to the contrary.
Well, not you, apparently.
When someones first two sentences contradict themselves i tend to back away slowly.
I struggle to take people seriously who can't engage in a political discussion because someone suggested many who share their views might be a bit thick. We all have our individual no go's, I guess.
The rhetorical question i asked was not to start a debate.
It was clearly just a frustrating retort to someone continually playing the everyone who does not agree with me is thick card.
Feel free to not take me serious though all is good.
I just think you could've just challenged his views, rather than whine about the insult.
I'm sure I've been childish enough to do the same as you before and I'm sure I will again but I would like to think I'd be called out on it.
I'm sorry that you weren't able to discern that it was a rhetorical question.
have to wonder about how secure our firewalls are. Or is this just the political parties?
Still.
Still.
Podesta got fooled by the oldest trick in the book.
what?
Fishing email.
Makes you wonder how such gullible people can be in charge! Didn't he ask IT to review it as well? (may be fake news)
Yes somebody asked on behalf of him. They checked, found the domain suspicious, but made a typo writing 'This is a legitimate address', when they in fact meant 'illegitimate' . As we found ourselves saying quite frequently, recently, you can't make this shit up.
That's not interfering. That's being absolutely clear what impact it will have with one of our biggest trading partner.
That in itself is poor operational risk management. You don't want to use two terms that can be fecked up so easily. FFS an auto-correct moment could have been the source of that. Horrendous.
the entire campaign has been incompetent.
Email is technology that has been around for 45 years, but it appears that Team Hillary still cannot fully master it. For their future undertakings, I suggest using the following, less challenging system.
The tube will be diverted to a russian xeroxEmail is technology that has been around for 45 years, but it appears that Team Hillary still cannot fully master it. For their future undertakings, I suggest using the following, less challenging system.
If it is russian made, they should not worry.The tube will be diverted to a russian xerox
It sounds good but it's hyperbole. All kinds of organisations try to influence elections. If Fox had some dirt on Hillary they would and did try to expose it while twisting the facts. It's not like the US don't constantly try to not only influence elections but actually back dictators to.
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