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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
The basis is to hit 100000 net migration no matter what. The system is to reject first and hope they give up. All to apease the racists and the xenophobes
Do you remember the 70s when the NF used to have any old indian and jamaican person do the broadcast and appeal to stop letting foreigners in?
No. I'm not old
No i thought not, thats probably why you feel this is so racist when really it isn't
Even the racism was better in your days
Proper racist behaviour by proper men. None of this merely "hurting their feelings" by telling them to piss off no matter how bad their situation might be or how much their skills might benefit us.
Well i kind of expected that answer from yourself.Even the racism was better in your days
Just some perspective.
Interesting to see the dutch are shocked that the berlin terrorist travelled through NL, Belgium and Lyon on his way to italy.
Thats open borders for you, great idea.
Can the person who came up with the second line meet up with the writer of the last in this statement? I think they'd quite enjoy each other's company.
You know that because you live in the Netherlands, right? Guess that explains why you're deliberately ignoring the link above about a Dutch woman being fecked out of Britain. Trying not to think about when the Dutch government does the same to you?
Do you like the idea of terrorists moving around freely, not having a check in place to catch them early?
Bizarre
It's different now, they're not worried about different coloured people of Asian, African or Caribbean origin, what they want rid of now are the Europeans
I read the story this pm and have commented above
I find the idea of someone offering "perspective" then almost immediately being completely narrow-minded on a huge issue quite amusing and more than a little bit pitiful. The fact it was followed by this response too just caps it off.
they want caps like other eu countries want, only being able to decide the cap themselves. Dont see problem with that.
Ok answer the question and tell me how you would have dealt with this better
They already have control over non-EU - except that despite a target of under 100000 they still let in 190000 non-EU citizens alone, whose fault is that
Is it wrong to have targets? Atm they have no cap over eu citz. If they have a cap and fail to control it then thats uk problem. If they manage it then fair enuff
They do have some control over EU citizens as well, but it's all a ruse.
Don't forget Nick, our leading Brexiteer on here, is not against immigration but objects to a large proportion of the immigrants coming from the EU and wants to share the immigration from throughout the countries of the world.
How do you appeal to British Leavers, promise them money , better NHS , better trade deals, get rid of foreigners - it's all a farce trying to blame anyone but themselves and the EU is the current scapegoat. When none of what they promised happens, then what..
The 7/7 bombers travelled from Leeds to London, we should throw up some borders
Its wrong to have a target. If the UK needs 100,001 immigrants but the targets 100000, do we go without the last person. What if that 1 is a world class surgeon? He has to wait a year?
They can move freely within a country, you going to set up internal check points?
Well its only remain thinking bods that have seen the bus and use it as a stick, people like you listen too much to poliricians and forget lies from the other side so when plague, ww3 and locusts doesnt happen then what?
Cross country borders within the eu yes.
I think i will get rid of my company's firewalls, what could possibly go wrong?
Plus depending on what happens with the NI border they may not even be able to prevent EU citizens moving across the UK border anyway.
Why only across countries? Why not between Munich and Berlin?
Same country, would not be practical, have they ever existed those controls? Cross nation ones have.
Yes, and they were expensive to maintain, easily circumvented, and impractical.
Oh and using the money they saved not maintaining such pointless internal borders they all pooled in to fund the external borders and reduce the burden.
Do you think we shouldd be free to travel to anywhere outside europe with a passport? Why should we get on a plane having to show one. Its absurd.
What the hell are you talking about?
I've never mentioned plague locusts or ww3, I don't take much notice of politicians from any side, I'd rather gather information myself - point is people should have enough intelligence to differentiate between obvious bs and some sense of reality. People were brainwashed by rags like the Mail, Sun and Express and it's still going on now.
Those articles about 24bn or even 40bn savings are from this week not on the bus, they're even more ridiculous than the bus ... why , because the sentiment is dawning on a certain section of the Leave camp that what they are expecting is not going to happen, so let's exaggerate a bit more to offer a bit more bait to those who may doubt.
Reading the comments on articles on all types of paper, the amount of ignorance is astonishing, and these people are deciding the fate of a major country.
Out of the thousands of idiotic comments I've seen, one I saw recently stuck in my mind
"My mum voted Leave because she doesn't like sitting next to black people on buses" - speechless
When I go to the Uk I have to stand in a queue and show my passport
Where do you think you should have to show your passport and why?
Why are you talking about passports?
So, some posters still think that the EU prevents anyone from having hard borders or from checking every single travelers?
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You have some pretty strong opinions, but you really have no clue at all mate. You seem to think that borders and passport checks will somehow deter terrorists or other suitably motivated and financed people from coming in or out. They won't. While I don't agree hard borders will solve immigration, I can at least understand why you might have a valid argument it would. But unless you mean a Berlin Wall style curtain surrounding the entire UK, with every person checked to the nth degree (and how much would that cost?) borders and passport checks do not stop people bypassing them, which terrorists undoubtedly will.
Check points within a nation? Of course they have. So you want check points across and within European nations?
I don't want to cherry pick, you do.
You mentioned before your misses is non EU. If you had to return to the UK would you be happy to live years apart because the quota for migration was full for the next 2 years? That's what targets bring about
Just to make it clear, the EU doesn't have that power.