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Concerning the article itself, they didn't took into account the huge expense that represents the custom administration and the huge amount of officers that will be needed to control the goods entering and leaving the UK, they also didn't took into account the fact that the majority of UK's participation go back to the UK.

And what are the 12bn of possible trades, services or goods? And who are the clients?

Aah but this will improve employment, thousands of highly trained customs officers and civil servants are just waiting to sort out the customs duties, import and export licences, VAT returns , more police to control the queues at the ports - damn that's going to cost a lot of money. On the other hand if they haven't got any trade deals in place the ports may be very quiet and the UK becomes self-sufficient then they would have no need for trade partners.
 
We're waiting for Paul to update us on that count

Latest news - May has outlined her plan for Brexit and told the EU that she wants her cake, eat it, and wants an additional cake which is red, white and blue.
The EU said "No, try again".
May said she has no plan B and will have another think and get back to the EU in 2018.
 
I was sarcastic, didn't think it was necessary to add a smilie or white text. :wenger:

It's obvious that the US would be fine to negotiate a trade deal with the post-Brexit UK - one that serves their very own needs.

I sincerely apologise mate. As a veteran poster i should know better. To my defence certain things being said in here makes you doubt sarcasm.

The US cares only about the US. The uk will learn that the hard way
 
The US cares only about the US. The uk will learn that the hard way

I'm sure the US cares about one of it's biggest investors, 5 years ago THE biggest investor

"At year-end 2012, the UK - by investing $487 billion in the U.S. - was almost $200 billion ahead of the next large investor (Japan)."
 
I'm sure the US cares about one of it's biggest investors, 5 years ago THE biggest investor

"At year-end 2012, the UK - by investing $487 billion in the U.S. - was almost $200 billion ahead of the next large investor (Japan)."

I guess the UK overrates itself massively even on the other side of the Atlantic sea. I have a feeling the US will do just fine irrespective whether the UK's economy does well or struggles.

What's for certain is business does move. If they can get their fingers on a big chunk of London's financial services then they will.
 
I sincerely apologise mate. As a veteran poster i should know better. To my defence certain things being said in here makes you doubt sarcasm.

The US cares only about the US. The uk will learn that the hard way
No need to apologize, mate, I shouldn't have assumed my sarcasm was obvious when it wasn't. :)
 
That's the thing its not a deal among equals. The UK wants a deal with the EU. The EU, well, not that much

Where do you get this BS from? The EU doesn't want a deal with the UK :wenger: Pragmatism will reign at the end of the day.
 
Where do you get this BS from? The EU doesn't want a deal with the UK :wenger: Pragmatism will reign at the end of the day.

The more time passes, the more is evident that the EU is lining up for a hard Brexit. 'Pragmatism' will only reign if the UK accept the 4 principles, something it doesn't seem ready to do. Its not the EU whose mentioning cliff edge etc
 
Where do you get this BS from? The EU doesn't want a deal with the UK :wenger: Pragmatism will reign at the end of the day.
Sounds like the desperate mantra of the Leave camp. You are aware that there's a difference between 'doesn't want' and 'doesn't want that much'?
 
I guess the UK overrates itself massively even on the other side of the Atlantic sea. I have a feeling the US will do just fine irrespective whether the UK's economy does well or struggles.

What's for certain is business does move. If they can get their fingers on a big chunk of London's financial services then they will.

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I can see the UK struggling. Brexit was the single biggest F You to businesses in recent history and the UK will soon leave the single market for good. The US is the cradle of capitalism, its the biggest economy in the world with over 14 trade deals with 20 countries and is now being lead by a ruthless 80 style type of business man. New York is already a big guy in the financial world and will fully exploit any signs of weakness from London.
 
Sounds like the desperate mantra of the Leave camp. You are aware that there's a difference between 'doesn't want' and 'doesn't want that much'?

I don't understand doesn't want vs doesn't want that much. I am extremely stupid, please pout out.
 
I can see the UK struggling. Brexit was the single biggest F You to businesses in recent history and the UK will soon leave the single market for good. The US is the cradle of capitalism, its the biggest economy in the world with over 14 trade deals with 20 countries and is now being lead by a ruthless 80 style type of business man. New York is already a big guy in the financial world and will fully exploit any signs of weakness from London.

Businessmen dont get rid of their biggest investors, or do you think they do?
 
I don't understand doesn't want vs doesn't want that much. I am extremely stupid, please pout out.
Then you're obviously having a much more fundamental problem which I won't be able to fix.
 
Businessmen dont get rid of their biggest investors, or do you think they do?

Its not about investors, its about stealing jobs and investment to competitors. If the US was a fair country we would be living in a much better world
 
Do you think its good to piss of your biggest investors? Simple question

Its a very naive way to talk TBH which show how amateur Brexiters argue. Any country will try and exploit any level of instability to attract as much business to their country as possible. That's how things work. Its a competition not a tit for tat contest.

The UK can, of course, interpret it that way. However can it really burn bridges with the US after showing the cold shoulder to Europe?
 
Its a very naive way to talk TBH which show how amateur Brexiters argue. Any country will try and exploit any level of instability to attract as much business to their country as possible. That's how things work. Its a competition not a tit for tat contest.

The UK can, of course, interpret it that way. However can it really burn bridges with the US after showing the cold shoulder to Europe?
Do you think its good to piss of your biggest investors? Simple question
 
New York is already a big guy in the financial world and will fully exploit any signs of weakness from London.

To a degree... though it's worth remembering most banks / investment institutions are set up in nyc/london/Shanghai so that they can trade 24 hours... as such I suspect Paris/ frankfurt are more likely beneficiaries... especially from American banks who may need a European hq to passport into the single market
 
Do you think its good to piss of your biggest investors? Simple question

Do you think that investors give a shit about countries? If they make money, they invest. If not, they don't. They are not getting "pissed" by nationalistic bullshit. Of course, New York and Frankfurt and whoever else will steal business from London if they can, that's how capitalism works.
 
Do you think that investors give a shit about countries? If they make money, they invest. If not, they don't. They are not getting "pissed" by nationalistic bullshit. Of course, New York and Frankfurt and whoever else will steal business from London if they can, that's how capitalism works.
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