his job isn't to be the most skilled player, that's the point you seem to be missing, because he doesn't play like Iniesta doesn't mean he isn't world class in his position
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He's been the best player on the pitch in the second half. How people even can think about comparing Herrera to him is beyond stupid.
It's one of the only places on the forum in which discussion and different opinions aren't allowed. We laugh at Rawk.
It's like this; if you don't rate him as the best thing ever then you don't have a clue. That seems to be the way.
This threads never end well on here:
Firmino v Memphis
Clyne v Darmian
Ozil v Di Maria
Firmino v Memphis
Clyne v Darmian
Ozil v Di Maria
No but to me being a good defensive minded midfielder, or even a great one doesn't make you world class. I'm not missing any point I understand why people call him "world class" I just think the position of an extra defensive minded midfielder next to a holding mid is neccesary for the best teams.
Don't see how discussion and different opinions are being quashed. It's just a particularly odd, Rawkish opinion that doesn't really exist outside this forum.
I think it has a lot to do with the pundits gushing over him so much. Especially since he was part of a team that surprisingly won the league last year.
Since when does an opinion being minority make it wrong?
Out of the ones that went against us this season.
Anderson vs Fabregas
Think there was a Januzaj one somewhere too.
It doesn't make it right either.
Feck I thought neither were even yellows tbh.
Ffs I only said that Herrera should get recognition as he has similar stats to Kante. I know stats don't tell the whole story, but it's still point of conversation.
You'd think I compared Darmain to Dani Alves or something..
You'd think I compared Darmain to Dani Alves or something..
Thankyou very much for pointing that out to me
Come on, in today's game, that's how it works out. He made it easy for the ref.
And it's still a fair point given the media fuss around Kante as best player in the league.
Spot on
I don't know if i was watching a different game but I thought Kante was exceptional in the first half?
He was good in the second but it was far easier for him considering we showed zero intention of keeping or playing with the ball.
He was good in the second but it was far easier for him considering we showed zero intention of keeping or playing with the ball.
Anonymous in the 1st half but completely bossed the game in the 2nd, superb goal as well.
Also, people create far too many of these player comparison threads on this board using stats or different metric to make their point. Just use your own eyes to see who is the superior player.
Also, people create far too many of these player comparison threads on this board using stats or different metric to make their point. Just use your own eyes to see who is the superior player.
It was such a daft comparison to begin with.
In fairness most posters agreed Kante was clearly better. It was only a few posters calling Kante overrated and using stats to claim Herrera was better
In fairness most posters agreed Kante was clearly better. It was only a few posters calling Kante overrated and using stats to claim Herrera was better
Exactly. There's a reason no-one but United fans would rate Herrera anywhere near Kante.
Yep. Seems a bit pathetic that a Utd fan's first thought would be to bump this thread.
Me too, but people get an idea in mind and just stick with it.
Yeah that reason is watching Herrera play week in and week out and realising how good the guy actually is. Stats simply back him up to be a super player. If you watched him this season, Herrera has been excellent.
Keep on jerking, but results are there.
He's delighted with it all. It's so odd.
The feck are you talking about? I rate Kante, and he's better than Herrera. That doesn't make it any less weird that you were evidently delighted to bump this thread in the middle of our fecking match.
I rate Herrera, he's been very good this season.
Kante is still a lot better than him.
When it's wrong? Just like Zidane vs Titus Bramble.
We will have to disagree on that then, I don't think he's a lot better.
I think Herrera could do Kantes job at Chelsea just as well.
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure we had a Ronaldo vs Quaresma thread.
Come on now. Herrera would barely get a game for Spain. Kante would.
An opinion by definition can't be wrong.
Spain have Busquets and Koke amongst others. Plethora of top top class midfielders over past decade, hence Herrera not getting a game.
A truly insightless post. Conte IS a defensive coach that is why his team is set up to defend with 7 men and are killer on the counter attack. They are a reactive team rather than a front foot one. That also has no bearing on his team being able to score loads of goals nor have its creative players able to express themselves. He did the same thing with Italy. Conte's amongst a breed of coaches who take defending ultra seriously and he knows his squad has weaknesses defensively so he compensated with the set up. Mourinho is spot on about his set up and its not an insult as some glibly like to imagine. Conte's Chelsea set up has been a huge surprise to many.
By definition it also doesn't have to be based in fact or knowledge, which in the context of an argument isn't much better than being wrong.
Dude, remember Italy at the Euros. Chelsea with their current set up, strengthened by better defensive signings in the summer, and midfield attacking reinforcements will hurt many a team in the Europe. Just like a seemingly weak Italy did to the likes of Spain.
I remember arguing with a friend that Paul Scholes had unfairly taken Gavin Peacocks rightful England spot.