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I genuinely don't understand the world anymore. How does anyone see this stuff and thing its logical or ok? I just had a scan of the comments section of the Express version of this article, and it was like a Viz parody.
If you've got an hour to kill, it worth giving this a listen.



Interesting take on the potential awfulness that could follow after the UK leaves. Also it's a bit of a laugh.
 
Aah, but if there are less nurses, the salary bill will be less.....are you following....saving money....

Apparently it's good because we can go back to good British nurses led by matron, and all the British kids would love to be nurses but they're not allowed by the EU. Oh and apparently nurses going to university is stupid, because it's a vocation not a career and they just need a caring manner and some good British common sense.

And I really wish I was making this stuff up...
 
I genuinely don't understand the world anymore. How does anyone see this stuff and thing its logical or ok? I just had a scan of the comments section of the Express version of this article, and it was like a Viz parody.

PS is the express for real? I always thought it a comedy paper, were people buy it to have a laugh. Jeez its the UK version of saturday night live that one
 
I think that's fair enough tbh. NHS workers should know some basic English

And you think a time when every hospital in the U.K. is suffering a chronic shortage of staff is the wisest time to implement this new test? Which according to some EU nurses isn't a basic test, but requires quite a high level of language skills.
 
And you think a time when every hospital in the U.K. is suffering a chronic shortage of staff is the wisest time to implement this new test?

Yep it is.

Communication is key especially in diagnosing a person's condition quickly. I am anti brexit, I never voted for the Capitalist party and I am not a big fan of radical right issues myself but on that regard he's right
 
Apparently it's good because we can go back to good British nurses led by matron, and all the British kids would love to be nurses but they're not allowed by the EU. Oh and apparently nurses going to university is stupid, because it's a vocation not a career and they just need a caring manner and some good British common sense.

And I really wish I was making this stuff up...

Contradiction in terms
 
Yep it is.

Communication is key especially in diagnosing a person's condition quickly. I am anti brexit, I never voted for the Capitalist party and I am not a big fan of radical right issues myself but on that regard he's right

These rules already exist, this is posturing
 
Yep it is.

Communication is key especially in diagnosing a person's condition quickly. I am anti brexit, I never voted for the Capitalist party and I am not a big fan of radical right issues myself but on that regard he's right

There are already people in hospital beds going unfed and uncleaned, because of a lack of nursing staff. This really isn't the time to start putting barriers in front of recruitment and certainly not testing existing staff.
 
Not cutting child tax credits. He even stood in front of an audience and told that whopper.
Just pointing out that they have stuck by possibly one their biggest decisions, its not often a tory sticks to a promise. Maybe these decisions will be both their downfalls, who knows.
 
Report about British expats (obviously not foreigners, Britons can only be expats) in Spain and Brexit:


Some of those mindsets are just hilarious:wenger:

:lol: The first guy is a racket.
How can people benefiting from something so beautiful be so ignorant?
 
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Just pointing out that they have stuck by possibly one their biggest decisions, its not often a tory sticks to a promise. Maybe these decisions will be both their downfalls, who knows.

I'd imagine the people affected by child tax credits would think of that as quite big...
 
Report about British expats (obviously not foreigners, Britons can only be expats) in Spain and Brexit:


Some of those mindsets are just hilarious:wenger:


I would quite like to take control of my tax payments, so the guy that voted Brexit but wants to stay in Spain can pay his own way. What drivel these people spew.
 
Report about British expats (obviously not foreigners, Britons can only be expats) in Spain and Brexit:


Some of those mindsets are just hilarious:wenger:

It's a Guardian piece, so it's an equally agendra-driven as you'd find in the DM, but yep, it is mind-boggling the hypocrisy and sheer stupidity. Most British ex-pats I've met around the world have been odious tbh, really treating the locals with massive disdain.
 
It's a Guardian piece, so it's an equally agendra-driven as you'd find in the DM, but yep, it is mind-boggling the hypocrisy and sheer stupidity. Most British ex-pats I've met around the world have been odious tbh, really treating the locals with massive disdain.

Its also happening in my country, which is ironic considering that the island thrived once they kicked the Brits out and gained independence.
 
It's a Guardian piece, so it's an equally agendra-driven as you'd find in the DM, but yep, it is mind-boggling the hypocrisy and sheer stupidity. Most British ex-pats I've met around the world have been odious tbh, really treating the locals with massive disdain.

Tbf it's a balanced piece. Amazing the way the massive upside of freedom of movement for Britains in Europe has been willingly sacrificed over intangible threats about immigration.
 
Tbf it's a balanced piece. Amazing the way the massive upside of freedom of movement for Britains in Europe has been willingly sacrificed over intangible threats about immigration.
They led in on that utter clown, which we all would've tbf. The annoying conundrum is that it'll serve them right if Spain boots them out -despite their belief that they prop up its economy- but do we really want them back?
 
They led in on that utter clown, which we all would've tbf. The annoying conundrum is that it'll serve them right if Spain boots them out -despite their belief that they prop up its economy- but do we really want them back?

Probably not. And they're probably right about Uk pensions being pissed away on the Costa Del Sol helping the Spanish economy. It's a quid pro quo situation, with the only downside to being the absolute state of the "ghetto" and its inhabitants. It seems so incredibly obvious that freedom of movement within the EU is the best situation for everyone. Fecking over so many people to win cheap votes by exploiting xenophobia is shameful. There's no two ways about it.
 
Probably not. And they're probably right about Uk pensions being pissed away on the Costa Del Sol helping the Spanish economy. It's a quid pro quo situation, with the only downside to being the absolute state of the "ghetto" and its inhabitants. It seems so incredibly obvious that freedom of movement within the EU is the best situation for everyone. Fecking over so many people to win cheap votes by exploiting xenophobia is shameful. There's no two ways about it.

I think when you include their healthcare costs they're actually a net-burden to Spanish society. I'm sure there was a study on it around the time of the referendum. Either way, it seems that the government are far from keen to have them back.
 
Probably not. And they're probably right about Uk pensions being pissed away on the Costa Del Sol helping the Spanish economy. It's a quid pro quo situation, with the only downside to being the absolute state of the "ghetto" and its inhabitants. It seems so incredibly obvious that freedom of movement within the EU is the best situation for everyone. Fecking over so many people to win cheap votes by exploiting xenophobia is shameful. There's no two ways about it.
Yep, the road to mass protectionism is surely one littered with problems. I guess these people genuinely believe the immigration threat, regardless of evidence. The stat on EU nurses leaving should be a wake up call, but probably won't be.
 
JIPPY and POGUE.....

I think you'll find that the EU operates the biggest protectionist market in the whole world.

Isn't that what the Single Market is ? Pay to be a member, or you can't sell into it.

Now what has Freedon of Movement got to do with buying and selling stuff to other countries inside the Single Market and EU ?

I'm one of those who has never understood how the two are inextricably linked - other than it's just the EU ideal for one huge Federal States of Europe and which is what the majority of people in the UK voted to opt out of.

If you want to call that xenophobic, go ahead. But like I said the other day, it's no more xenophobic than the EU preventing Africans and Asians freely entering and settling inside the EU, but we're not allowed to call the EU xenophobic or racist, just the UK.
 
I think when you include their healthcare costs they're actually a net-burden to Spanish society. I'm sure there was a study on it around the time of the referendum. Either way, it seems that the government are far from keen to have them back.

Good point. That makes sense.
 
JIPPY and POGUE.....

I think you'll find that the EU operates the biggest protectionist market in the whole world.

Isn't that what the Single Market is ? Pay to be a member, or you can't sell into it.

Now what has Freedon of Movement got to do with buying and selling stuff to other countries inside the Single Market and EU ?

I'm one of those who has never understood how the two are inextricably linked - other than it's just the EU ideal for one huge Federal States of Europe and which is what the majority of people in the UK voted to opt out of.

If you want to call that xenophobic, go ahead. But like I said the other day, it's no more xenophobic than the EU preventing Africans and Asians freely entering and settling inside the EU, but we're not allowed to call the EU xenophobic or racist, just the UK.
I guess the link is freedom of movement of goods, services and people. You'd rather be inside the world's biggest trading bloc than outside.
Every country naturally has some degree of border control to manage costs and resources as much as anything.
 
JIPPY and POGUE.....

I think you'll find that the EU operates the biggest protectionist market in the whole world.

Isn't that what the Single Market is ? Pay to be a member, or you can't sell into it.

Now what has Freedon of Movement got to do with buying and selling stuff to other countries inside the Single Market and EU ?

I'm one of those who has never understood how the two are inextricably linked - other than it's just the EU ideal for one huge Federal States of Europe and which is what the majority of people in the UK voted to opt out of.

If you want to call that xenophobic, go ahead. But like I said the other day, it's no more xenophobic than the EU preventing Africans and Asians freely entering and settling inside the EU, but we're not allowed to call the EU xenophobic or racist, just the UK.

Don't worry, that's part of the conditions that India want to do a trade deal with the UK, as does Australia and more than likely African countries as well. In other words nothing would change , just the nationality of the people.
 
I've always wondered, why are they called expats instead of migrants or foreigners?
the word “Expatriate” is actually a verb or an adjective and means someone “living in a foreign land”.
  • the word “Immigrant” is a noun and means “a person who comes to a country to take permanent residence”.
 
the word “Expatriate” is actually a verb or an adjective and means someone “living in a foreign land”.
  • the word “Immigrant” is a noun and means “a person who comes to a country to take permanent residence”.

To be pedantic an Expatriate in a noun and there are a lot of Polish expatriates living in the UK:)
 
To be pedantic an Expatriate in a noun and there are a lot of Polish expatriates living in the UK:)
I was reading an article about a Canadian immigrant that was living in the states and now calls himself an expat in Vienna.

"I lived in the United States as a Canadian immigrant for over 15 years. My family decided to move down south for economic reasons. It was a permanent move I’m very happy we made.

Until we received our US citizenship, though, we were immigrants. We would have loved to have been expats, but you can’t just live and work on both sides of the border without a lot of paperwork involved. That’s the nature of modern government."
 
I was reading an article about a Canadian immigrant that was living in the states and now calls himself an expat in Vienna.

"I lived in the United States as a Canadian immigrant for over 15 years. My family decided to move down south for economic reasons. It was a permanent move I’m very happy we made.

Until we received our US citizenship, though, we were immigrants. We would have loved to have been expats, but you can’t just live and work on both sides of the border without a lot of paperwork involved. That’s the nature of modern government."

Makes them feel more posh or superior if they call themselves Expats rather than plain immigrants