Is Mou still 'The Special One' for you all?

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You think? Fellaini cost us two vital points against Everton and Mourinho still defended him. Will probably give him a contract extension:D

Like I stated, that was a bit different. Situations like that can occur, regardless of tactical changes.

Today, Fellaini clearly just said fock that shit and let the player he was supposed to mark run in to the box with power and momentum, for a smashing header.

Surely Mou must've taken note. I guess time will tell, pretty soon.
 
Rashford has been starting all season regardless of those players.

No actually he wasn't starting all season long. He started quite a few games tho which is only to be expected since his best 2 options for LW are Rashford and Marine and we know he doesn't fancy Martial that much.

Henry came out and said Pep's job was to get them to the final 3rd and from there, it's up to them.

So interpret that as you will.

Get the players, the ball? :confused:
 
Jose isn't the problem (at the moment), the players/squad are. Let's see where we are come September the 1st
 
Remind me, what is the number of Pochettino's trophies?

I dont know?

So i guess Pep is the best manager? Then mourinho? Then it's a toss up between Conte, Poch and Klopp? Righto :lol: its not like the best managers need the cream of the cream to be successful do they? Or are we dismissing the two Manchester club's squads as not good enough to challenge for the title :rolleyes:
 
Had this been another manager or a manager at a rival club, many would be laughing at the state of him!
 
Somehow many posters find players to be responsible, yet last season with even worse players it was manager's fault...and the style of football wasn't that much different either.
 
Pochettino is one of the best managers in the league. You can prefer Mourinho but lets not think he is 'decent' by Spurs standards when he has made a fool of Pep and mourinho this season.
Pochettino isn't one of the best in the league until he WINS the league. And where did Spurs finish in Poch's first season?
 
This is the difference with Mourinho & the likes of Guardiola, Klopp & Pochettino. Mourinho is defensive & once the team scores is content to sit back & win 1-0, whilst the other three just want to score more goals like Ferguson used to. They come unstuck at times, but generally it pays off as well as being more exciting.
Man Utd have always played a certain way (certainly in my lifetime), which our last three managers either don't understand or are unable to get their teams playing that way.
 
Never was. Don't think he knows anything about what a team should do when they have the ball. No attacking tactics.

But I don't know who else we could get. He's the best option we have so we may as well stick with him
 
He criticized his players again. When we fail to kill off games, should we go straightly for answers from strikers? It does not make sense. Throughout the whole season, our attacking has been really shit. All of the attacking players, as far as I know, apart from Big Zlatan, have been performing under their level. Zlatan plays well, but he is not gonna be here for two years.

All those young talents. what a waste! Heartbreaking………………
 
This is the difference with Mourinho & the likes of Guardiola, Klopp & Pochettino. Mourinho is defensive & once the team scores is content to sit back & win 1-0, whilst the other three just want to score more goals like Ferguson used to. They come unstuck at times, but generally it pays off as well as being more exciting.
Man Utd have always played a certain way (certainly in my lifetime), which our last three managers either don't understand or are unable to get their teams playing that way.
Liverpool made a huge balls up in the Europa League final and City did in the CL under Pep because of their gung-ho styles.
 
You're ought to compare squad quality, expectations and money spent of Pochettino's first season in Spurs to Mourinho's in UTD.
No, I will judge Jose's job end of next season when he's had two summer windows to bring in his own players.

Poch was afforded time, Jose should be.
 
So the negative people..what do you want..sack him? Get another one in...the fourth manager in five odd years? Is that the answer? Crap......we have to stand by this guy and give him time. He's had one season for goodness sake...Klopp is in his second. Pep is finding out not all is rosy in the PL...Poch hasn't won anything and perhaps wont' this season no matter how much people are lauding him. Conte...sure...he's probably going to do it...but he inherited a pretty dam good team. Give this fecker time...no matter how hopeful you were last summer.
 
Somehow many posters find players to be responsible, yet last season with even worse players it was manager's fault...and the style of football wasn't that much different either.

Respectable summary.

Last season was boring to hell, but for LVG, who is renowned for his attacking football throughout his career, that was an incident. For Mou, this season was absolutely normal.

we have to change the structure of the club managing. Sacking LVG and hiring Mou was really short-sighted. It is not done on a professional basis. I can not see any change next season. Bleak. feck.
 
Pochettino has had years to work with his team.

This is his 3RD season managing the Sours and in 2ND season he was a legitimate title contender up until the last 3 matches.

This season he's 2ND with 7 points behind the leaders, playing some awesome football and he's still a title contender.

Also he built this team, he did an amazing job of managing the youth.
 
Marcus Rashford for instance started tonight. So how is he not trusting youth on the highest level exactly?
It's not that he never ever plays young players. Of course he does. But can you honestly say you feel he is willing to take small risks with young players in order to benefit the team (and the player!) down the line? I don't see that. His handling of Martial and Shaw has been odd. TFM has been ignored all season.

I think he's a good manager in other ways but I just wish he wasn't so risk averse.
 
Never was. Don't think he knows anything about what a team should do when they have the ball. No attacking tactics.

But I don't know who else we could get. He's the best option we have so we may as well stick with him
Wish someone at United would suggest he add another coach to his team to assist with attacking tactics. I know that's not going to happen, so I guess we're stuck with what we have.
 
It's not Mourinho it's the players.

feck that

I hear that every year,

Since Moyes we have spend more than 500 million euro on players. How the feck is this still a usuable argument ?

The team has totally been renewed except for a few players, all have been signings for which we have paid good money, all have been players we said have alot of talent and were very good players at their previous clubs. How can the fecking problem than still be that we don't have any good players ? I'am tired of this argument, it is complete bullshit.

We have good players but we have a shit manager who can't let them play together as a good team.

I see so many names of players being thrown around that we should get and would magically fix all our problems because they are playing very good at their respective clubs right now. But when these players would be bought by us and put into our shit team that doesn't work at all, half a season later we will have people like you saying again how shit these players actually are and that we need better ones.

Mourinho has had much more cash to spend last summer than teams like Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal and even Chelsea. He has bought Pogba who we all went muppet crazy about as he was super good at Juventus and touted as one of the best midfielders in the world. We brought in Zlatan who has been for years one of the best strikers in the game and we also bought Mkhitaryan who was voted last year as the best player in the Bundesliga and had scored like 30+ goals and scored 20+ assists. He also inherited Martial and Rashford who were touted as being 2 of the best talents in the PL, Martial was even credited for being our best player last year and one of our only real talented attackers who could create something. Then you have Mata, Herrera, DDG etc, all players who have shown plenty of times that they are very good players.

How in godsname is it possible when you have all that player material to still walk away from any criticism and blame everything on the players ?

Yes Martial plays really really bad atm, he is completley out of form and completley devoid of any confidence, you think that just magically happend all of a sudden and Mourinho and his management doesn't have any part in this at all ? Same can be said about using Rashford as a winger which just isn't working at all and never will because he is a striker and plays his best football centrally, not on the wings. He also seems to have completley destroyed Shaw and keeps using the same idiots on leftback as always being Darmian, Rojo and Blind. But than it is easy to say our wing play isn't good and we lack movement upfront from our striker and we don't have good wingbacks if you completley feck up every good player we had in the team and mess around with their possition.

Basically the only thing Mourinho has done all season is he made us very hard to beat and he put Zlatan upfront and he hopes Zlatan will score enough goals to win the game. That is his brilliant strategy and it is no surprise it isn't brining us good football and victories.
 
He isnt the special one, just another good coach. Some people act as if he is ordained by the Lord himself and therefore succes and victory shall for ever be his, no.. There are plenty of manager doing better jobs than him at the moment. Still a good manager I think but he's no SAF.
 
No, I will judge Jose's job end of next season when he's had two summer windows to bring in his own players.

Poch was afforded time, Jose should be.

To answer your question Pochettino finished 5th in his first season with Spurs and he sold Bale for 100 million €, spent around 120 million.
 
Respectable summary.

Last season was boring to hell, but for LVG, who is renowned for his attacking football throughout his career, that was an incident. For Mou, this season was absolutely normal.

we have to change the structure of the club managing. Sacking LVG and hiring Mou was really short-sighted. It is not done on a professional basis. I can not see any change next season. Bleak. feck.

Definitely the wrong way to go. Woody went for the most decorated resume available in the world of football both times. Those are the instances where we needed DoF to work alongside him.
 
To answer your question Pochettino finished 5th in his first season with Spurs and he sold Bale for 100 million €, spent around 120 million.
Bale went to Madrid in 2013
Pochettino went to Spurs in 2014

Also his first season wasn't that different results wise with Spurs the year before.
13/14 under Sherwood they had 69 points and 14/15 under Poch they got 64 points.

Mourinho needs time to fix United
 
How about we not miss every fecking chance we have? Our finishing has to be the worst on the planet.

Don't even get me started on making it past the first defender, I don't think I can put it into actual words how fecking sick and tired I am of blocked shots, blocked crosses and corners that hit the first oppo player. Did anyone notice Rojo today, twice in the space of 20 seconds, he just casually passes it into a oppo player that was standing 2 metres away, someones dead grandma could do better.
 
Bale went to Madrid in 2013
Pochettino went to Spurs in 2014

Also his first season wasn't that different results wise with Spurs the year before.
13/14 under Sherwood they had 69 points and 14/15 under Poch they got 64 points.

Mourinho needs time to fix United

We complained about LVG and his boring defensive style, yet majority of fans greeted Mourinho who's known for his defensive style, even more defensive than LVG's.

He keeps making questionable decisions with keeping favourites, selective criticism and overall team selection and sub's (as witnessed tonight).

Not to mention that our youth has regressed.

I love the club and for the sake of the club I want him to succeed, but have we really made the right decision ? Is he really the right choice to rebuild UTD?
 
Liverpool made a huge balls up in the Europa League final and City did in the CL under Pep because of their gung-ho styles.

I did say they come unstuck at times, but wouldn't you rather the team was really attacking then defence ridden. Anyway, Liverpool's squad is far inferior to our, & the worst of the top six, but in fairness to Klopp has done well this season. Also Man City's demise was at least exciting.
 
His best days are behind him, of that i am convinced. Inter and Chelsea were his "prime" if you get me. His first 2 seasons in England he was a winning machine, now he just seems I duno, not outdated, but like he has been sussed out. Managers no longer have that defeated mentality when they face him now, they actually believe they'll beat him
 
We complained about LVG and his boring defensive style, yet majority of fans greeted Mourinho who's known for his defensive style, even more defensive than LVG's.

He keeps making questionable decisions with keeping favourites, selective criticism and overall team selection and sub's (as witnessed tonight).

Not to mention that our youth has regressed.

I love the club and for the sake of the club I want him to succeed, but have we really made the right decision ? Is he really the right choice to rebuild UTD?

Mourinho hasn't played defensive at all this season. All managers have their favourites, players they can rely on, SAF did too. Martial in this current predictmant is not a player you can rely on in the crunch period of a season.
 
I did say they come unstuck at times, but wouldn't you rather the team was really attacking then defence ridden. Anyway, Liverpool's squad is far inferior to our, & the worst of the top six, but in fairness to Klopp has done well this season. Also Man City's demise was at least exciting.

TBF I couldn't give a feck if we had the waterboys camped in the box, getting a winning mentality back into this club is the first step, pretty passes can come after.
 
Mourinho hasn't played defensive at all this season. All managers have their favourites, players they can rely on, SAF did too. Martial in this current predictmant is not a player you can rely on in the crunch period of a season.

How can you say this? You remember that certain game in which we had like 5 CB's and 2 WB's?

Not to mention plethora of times when we dropped deep, invited the pressure and resorted to hoofing the ball upfront. That's pretty defensive.
 
How can you say this? You remember that certain game in which we had like 5 CB's and 2 WB's?

Not to mention plethora of times when we dropped deep, invited the pressure and resorted to hoofing the ball upfront. That's pretty defensive.

Exceptions aside, of course. We aren't going to be able to dominate every team we come up against.
 
TBF I couldn't give a feck if we had the waterboys camped in the box, getting a winning mentality back into this club is the first step, pretty passes can come after.

Have you seen our passing? It's always either few feet behind the player or just straight to the opposition player.

Hard to win without some quality passing.
 
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