But the EU need the UK more than the UK need the EU, I thought May was going to instruct the EU what they were going to give her.
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But the EU need the UK more than the UK need the EU, I thought May was going to instruct the EU what they were going to give her.
Aye, it's the worst negotiating tactic imaginable. I honestly can't fathom how people who have been in politics all of their lives have managed it.
Dont worry trump will put the uk in front of the queue.
Politicians being politicians, all cut from the same cloth unfortunately
Yip. Britain is going to get nowhere in these negotiations.
And the Tories and UKIPpers will blame the EU bureaucrats and cite it as evidence they hate us and we are better off out.
Most likely yes. The future looks very insular in Britain I think.
My Girlfriend and I are seriously thinking about leaving Britain in a few years time. The future is bleak.
No good. Its sad you feel you have leave your home because of all of this.
ffs
The economic outlook is grim. Basic goods are going to raise in price far higher than wages will rise.
I can understand that if you're from a generation that never knew anything other than the EU that their is some nervousness, but to bail before a deal is done is a bit knee jerk. Where would you go btw?
Any places worth going to will not let you in so easily. You are right that this country is dead anyway. Brexit is like performing CPR on somebody who died 3 weeks ago.
Australia or New Zealand.
They have immigration control (they're obviously racist lol), on what basis would you qualify?
They have a points system to make sure the "rif-raff" don't get through and they send naval ships to block immigrants, I wouldn't hold Aus as a beacon of light in the World.
Fwiw @Chorley1974 , the UK also has quite tough immigration control and let in hardly any desperate Syrian refugees in their hour of need, an absolutely pathetic number they allowed in compared to Germany & Sweden.
But if you're from a first World country, it's really no problem to get around the point system and move to Australia.
"We must not be punitive, but at the same time it's clear that Europe knows how to defend its interests, and that Britain the UK will have a less good position tomorrow outside the EU than today in the EU."
Speaking earlier, French President Francois Hollande said there would inevitably be "a price and a cost for the UK - it's the choice that was made".
The European common market has been around since 1957, you won't find too many who have worked in a time when we haven't benefited from it. We now facing leaving without any trade deal in place meaning a mass recession is around the corner.
Speaking earlier, French President Francois Hollande said there would inevitably be "a price and a cost for the UK - it's the choice that was made".
The European common market has been around since 1957, you won't find too many who have worked in a time when we haven't benefited from it. We now facing leaving without any trade deal in place meaning a mass recession is around the corner.
The UK does have tough non EU immigration, my wife is in that category, so we have paid thousands for visas or the past 7 years. The rules for Aus aren't bent for first world country, I wouldn't just assume you can get in.
Imagine wanting to move because you think you can make a better go of it somewhere else. Bloody snowflake
People who remember the time before the EU should be the most worried, we were fecked in the 70's.
I was talking about the EU, not a common market. Benefit is one perspective, we've paid a huge amount of money for membership of a club, and the UK voted on the basis that they don't think they are getting the value from it's subscription.
Imagine wanting to move because you think you can make a better go of it somewhere else. Bloody snowflake
boo hoo, taking my ball home....
Talk about simplification, we joined the EU and it fixed the country
Yes the EU moved the UK to a services economy
I always thought you lot were all about personal responsibility and taking back control of your lives?
late 60s and 70s - I was there - false memories of the Brexiters
I have 7 really close mates living over there on PR. So trust me on this, if you wanna get in from a first World country, it's a piece of piss.
what's 'you lot' mean? UK citizens?
Maybe the people I know aren't greasing the wheels in the same way.
Only one of those mates has a degree. There's a chef, a lad who worked in hospitality, a couple in recruitment, a girl in PR, and a labourer.
Getting PR in Aus is easy street, hell, just watch a few episodes of "Wanted down under" and you'll see what they accept
Only one of those mates has a degree. There's a chef, a lad who worked in hospitality, a couple in recruitment, a girl in PR, and a labourer.
Getting PR in Aus is easy street, hell, just watch a few episodes of "Wanted down under" and you'll see what they accept
Yeah but having a degree isn't what they necessarily need, they have a shit load of grads already. It's like the UK will be post brexit, we'll need a load of workers for less skilled job roles, it's not going to be about letting in those with the best degrees.
Thought these were exactly the people the Uk didn't want and would be filled by all those Brits that are out of work.
Talk about simplification, we joined the EU and it fixed the country
Gee, I guess it was a complete coincidence..
Why, what's the evidence for that?
I'm relatively naive in this narrative, my wife is brazilian, we have gone through the visa process several times, and at no point would consider there to be any difference whether you're from Syria or Brazil for example. What's the difference in Australia?
Not sure what you're smoking Paul, who's political narrative are you quoting?
Yep, the EU set up London to become the world's financial services powerhouse, I'd forgotten about that.
So the Uk has no problems about all those low-skilled Poles taking all their jobs, you can't make this up
Presumably when thousands of jobs and billions of pounds of business leave London after Brexit, that will also be a complete coincidence?
When you say the UK, who do you mean, the general public, the government? It's clear the UK needs these workers, but anyone I know who voted brexit did because of the inability to control the borders overall, and the growing EU legal/government span. Migration of labor has always happened, it's not an EU invention.
No it will be directly related, but to pretend that the EU promoted and built London as a financial powerhouse is somewhat different, no?