The EU have said that the period can be extended. The Qatar World Cup will likely happen before we actually leave.
We aren't reliant on good will for anything. The exit deal will be struck purely on pragmatic terms for both parties.
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The EU have said that the period can be extended. The Qatar World Cup will likely happen before we actually leave.
We aren't reliant on good will for anything. The exit deal will be struck purely on pragmatic terms for both parties.
Which is why we are reliant on good will, because what Leavers want and what we will get on pragmatic terms are universes apart.
I could be wrong but I think the tone will change once she has secured power in the GE. It seems pretty obvious that she is now playing to the Brexit crowd. According @JPRouve Junker doesn't have much real influence anyway so trolling him is no great issue.
I don't think she's that clever, and I've seen nothing to suggest she's anywhere near that savvy an operator. She seems to have decided that her only real bargaining chip is to threaten to be really disruptive, which I'm sure will be irritating for the EU, and might cause a bit of a headache, but there's a time limit on these things at which point we leave anyway.
It's a risky strategy if that is what she's playing at as well. The Press will eat her alive if she talks tough now and is seen to have given in by the end of the A50 process.
The talks will be ongoing (for years) for a new deal but the Uk will leave, unless they decide to stay or accept the price of the single market if that's what they want in the meantime, before the EU elections in 2019.
But if May looks for a Hard Brexit and carries on this stance of cake and eat it the talks could finish before that
The EU say that a transition deal can be agreed to last up to three years after 2019.
Juncker as the commission president has power inside the EU but when it comes to foreign policy and negotiations it's all about Tusk and Barnier who are both representing the members states.
But what does that transitional deal include, for example will the Uk have MEPs in the next EU parliament?
Not sure. It will have reduced terms, however. It will be there to smooth the adjustment process for both sides.
A smooth process would be best for both sides but I don't see how it will work, sounds like a half-cocked Norway model. The first few weeks or months of the negotiations should give an idea in which directions things were heading.
The EU proposed a Ukraine style associate member deal at the end of it all but they want a list of agreements on things like climate change etc, but probably most crucially that the UK doesn't become a tax haven for big business. The UK would also have to pay membership fees which would be politically difficult.
The reason I don't believe this is largely because of the gossip coming out of the civil service a while ago. At a time when they were desperately trying to assemble as much information as possible about the effects of leaving Europe and the various options, they were being scolded by ministers for internally presenting evidence of potential negative effects, some of which were extremely serious indeed.
I know its tempting to thing that the government are just playing a clever game and that once the election is out of the way they'll moderate their position, but there has been nothing to suggest this is actually true. We're basically left hoping to hell that they've been putting on a facade for the last year, and not just in front of the press but in front of the civil service, foreign governments and each other. It's just not plausible.
Juncker is not only quite obnoxious but a bit of a creep to boot. I didn't expect it go well. May will have little time for someone with as rude a manner as old Juncks.
She won't be a pushover either. The UK has as much of a right to dictate proceedings as the EU. They are not in charge of us you know. Negotiations should be carried out in a way that suits both sides.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39784170
That's another 10 seats you can add to the conservative majority right there. I don't know what the EU bigwigs thought they were going to achieve by leaking derogatory comments during the election but you have to wonder about their level of competence given the outcome.
That's another 10 seats you can add to the conservative majority right there. I don't know what the EU bigwigs thought they were going to achieve by leaking derogatory comments during the election but you have to wonder about their level of competence given the outcome.
Yeah, I mean it's not as if you ever hear British politicians make derogatory comments about the EU and its member states. Those pesky Europeans, it's about time we go to war with them and bomb Brussels. We'll show them who's top dog!
Rude manners? Are you fecking kidding me? Since before he was even elected, the British press and various right wing politicians have insulted and denegrated the guy continuously and publicly, calling him every name under the sun. But no, he's supposed to be the one without manners, right... Do you leave people actually understand that Europe isn't on the other side of the galaxy, its bloody next door and all these people who our resident idiots in the media and politics have spent years insulting heard every fecking word of it. Don't start crying when the long overdue payback begins.
You know what, I'm now actually getting embarrassed having to admit I've got the British nationality. Not in my name thank you.
He is a horrible horrible cnut and how the feck he dares to have an opinion on anyhthing is beyond me. The tax evading tosser.
We're talking about Junker and not Boris Johnson
Dearie me, such a reaction because we don't rate Juncker. You're right there though, we did try to stop his appointment and not without good reason. He's the worst advert for the EU they good possibly have appointed.
We're not crying either. Time everyone realised that. We've been able to see the nasty side of them for a long while so we're not surprised at their behaviour.
I've been like that for a year now. When I have to tell people I'm English, I feel like I should start apologizing. feck the Tories and UKIP and the rest of the cnuts who got us into this mess for making me lose my patriotism. I used to tell people from all over the world about how awesome Britain was and how nice the people are once you get past the initial reserve. I feel like a total cnut for that now. I haven't been back for 6 months, and if my parents weren't getting on in age, I'd happily make it another 6 years.
Theresa May will say anything to be popular and achieve power. She's playing with the future of UK by appearing to look strong. In reality, our government are making this up as they go along. A lady who was a remainer a while back.
I don't give a damn about defending Jean-Claude Juncker, what I do give a damn about is the rude, hypocritical, arrogant and downright ignorant and stupid attitudes of Brits towards people who have done them no harm and about whom they know very little. Its the same little Englander bullshit that thinks its ok to visit foreign countries and act like wankers while sneering at the locals.
Such a reaction because you are blaming a EU politician for making so called derogatory about the UK government despite the fact British politicians make derogatory comments about the EU & Europe all the bleeding time? Pot calling the kettle black me thinks.
Nah, you got that wrong, don't give two hoots what he says about us. Does show him for what he is though.
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Why do people think the EU care whether May has 100 or 1000 seats, it makes no difference at all
Hear hear!
Doesn"t remotely ydescribe any Brits that I know.
Well obviously the more support from the country the Tory government has, the less of an influence those in Parliament and the media have in opposing a hard brexit.
Mrs May needs to be nice to Mrs Merkel to get out of this mess. She holds the power in reality, not Juncker. Anything Mrs May says now is just electioneering. Hopefully, she'll get back to being a politician and be nice to our neighbours. She won't have to prove to be Mrs Thatcher to the electorate after the election.
https://www.ft.com/content/b2c842a6-2b64-11e7-bc4b-5528796fe35c
Something, something, Project Fear, something, they need us more than we need them, something, London will always be the financial capital of the world, something etc..
Something, something, Project Fear, something, they need us more than we need them, something, London will always be the financial capital of the world, something etc..
From a UK point of view, yes, but what difference does it make to the EU. Does May worry how many seats 'Party X' have in Romania or Sweden or Portugal , no
The mess is just as much for the EU as it is for us.
This is what I find quite interesting. Power to do what exactly? Kneecap us for wanting to leave the EU?
We've done nothing but be nice to our neighbours.
Why is it as much a mess for the EU, most people in the EU won't even notice.
You're so nice to your neighbours you don't want them in your country
The EU is counting on support from within the UK. The referendum result was narrowly in favour of brexit. The majority of MPs and those in the media are opposed to a hard brexit, when in reality the EU is obviously going to attempt to enforce a deal on their terms. We can see this with the demands they're already insisting on. They've also been very unwise about their comments about the proposed integration of Northern Ireland into Eire. Division is their strategy obviously.
The UK is is so entangled within EU law, it is a huge headache. They also rely on our funding, which is why they've presented us with a £50B ransom note.
Nothing wrong with controlled immigration. We don't want those who refuse to contribute anything.
Hahahahaha, come on, please tell me this is an attempt at satire?
Examples please?
Of course the EU will try get the best deal for the EU and to protect it's member states, one of them being Ireland.
The Uk can't come out on top of these negotiations , they want to leave, fine but don't expect any favours
I don't think the forum has enough space for the literally thousands of examples of British politicians insulting our European partners, telling barefaced lies about the EU and its members and generally being complete cnuts whenever possible.
So let me just leave these here..