Jose is making a squad of warriors!

You nailed it.
Players like Shaw (first name I could think of), are constantly injured or not playing well enough to get into the first team. These players say the right things to the press, but behind closed doors, who knows what they actually do.

The other thing which nobody has mentioned in any thread, in any post is the "players in their prime argument".
This season CFC are winning the league. They have a team of players all in their prime. My understanding is that they have no young players being used.
Last season LCFC - all players in their prime.
The season before that, CFC won the league. I think a CFC supporter will need to correct me, but I believe Jose used players in their prime...no inexperienced young players.

The trend is that youngsters, who tend to be weaker (mentally and physically), just can't cut it at the very top (i.e. in a league winning team).
Even Tottenham (who have not won the league, btw), are using players now approaching their mid 20s or over 25.
IMO, the days when you can take time with youngsters to toughen them up, are gone. If you want to win the title, you need a team choc full of players who in their absolute prime (age, mental toughness, physical toughness and skill maturity).

If Jose is going to win the title next season (and the pressure will be huge to do this), I expect Jose to ditch the mentally weak players and stick with tough, fully grown men, with experience. Unfortunately, young players may have to give way.

Martial, Rashford and Shaw are the only real young players that have been relied on at all this season. The rest are prime ages and older.
 
Incredible that, considering it was his team, his players, hand chosen to hit the same parameters Jose wants. Let's just ignore how he's received the backing from the players he has questioned publically too, hey?

Continue reading back what you wrote, especially the part about LvG. Take your time, I can wait.
 
Continue reading back what you wrote, especially the part about LvG. Take your time, I can wait.
I should have clarified, I meant publically.

Now that misunderstanding is out of the way, you might actually have to respond to my post. Take your time, I'll wait.
 
You nailed it.
Players like Shaw (first name I could think of), are constantly injured or not playing well enough to get into the first team. These players say the right things to the press, but behind closed doors, who knows what they actually do.

The other thing which nobody has mentioned in any thread, in any post is the "players in their prime argument".
This season CFC are winning the league. They have a team of players all in their prime. My understanding is that they have no young players being used.
Last season LCFC - all players in their prime.
The season before that, CFC won the league. I think a CFC supporter will need to correct me, but I believe Jose used players in their prime...no inexperienced young players.

The trend is that youngsters, who tend to be weaker (mentally and physically), just can't cut it at the very top (i.e. in a league winning team).
Even Tottenham (who have not won the league, btw), are using players now approaching their mid 20s or over 25.
IMO, the days when you can take time with youngsters to toughen them up, are gone. If you want to win the title, you need a team choc full of players who in their absolute prime (age, mental toughness, physical toughness and skill maturity).

If Jose is going to win the title next season (and the pressure will be huge to do this), I expect Jose to ditch the mentally weak players and stick with tough, fully grown men, with experience. Unfortunately, young players may have to give way.

Nailed it right back at you.

Biggest Achilles heel for us Man Utd fans is the fact we actually did win something with kids. Whilst it is nice if you see guys like Rashford and Lingard come through, it shouldn't be at the cost of success. Ibra, Carrick, Herrera and DDG have been our best players IMO and two of them are OAPs, the other two in their prime.

A perfect example of how rose tinted our glasses are....There's another recent thread which asks the question if you would swap Kane for Rashford and most people have answered 'No'. That sums up a large portion of our fanbase in a nutshell.
 
Of course. Luke Shaw damaging ligaments in his foot is due to his weight. What a sensible observation.
It's really not a difficult link to make.
 
It's really not a difficult link to make.

It's a flaky link that you've fabricated out of thin air to justify some folly defence of Mourinho acting like a wanker.

First, Shaw is apparently some softie. That's rejected when we realise he is actually seriously injured. Next, he's injured himself because he's fat. Whatever else next?
 
It's really not a difficult link to make.
There are tons of people who are more overweight than Shaw, play sports and don't damage their ligaments like that. It can be a link, just like it can be complete nonsense. Basically something out of a million different things that can be used to explain it.
 
It's a flaky link that you've fabricated out of thin air to justify some folly defence of Mourinho acting like a wanker.

First, Shaw is apparently some softie. That's rejected when we realise he is actually seriously injured. Next, he's injured himself because he's fat. Whatever else next?
No evidence? Other than Shaw constantly being injured, constantly being criticised for his lack of training and plenty of evidence to show his weigh problems. No evidence at all.
 
No evidence? Other than Shaw constantly being injured, constantly being criticised for his lack of training and plenty of evidence to show his weigh problems. No evidence at all.

Boh.

Is Shaw's serious ligament damage in his foot prevalent because he is fat, or because he isn't a warrior? I'd love to know.
 
Nailed it right back at you.

Biggest Achilles heel for us Man Utd fans is the fact we actually did win something with kids. Whilst it is nice if you see guys like Rashford and Lingard come through, it shouldn't be at the cost of success. Ibra, Carrick, Herrera and DDG have been our best players IMO and two of them are OAPs, the other two in their prime.

A perfect example of how rose tinted our glasses are....There's another recent thread which asks the question if you would swap Kane for Rashford and most people have answered 'No'. That sums up a large portion of our fanbase in a nutshell.

But, we are not really a young team at all.
 
It's a flaky link that you've fabricated out of thin air to justify some folly defence of Mourinho acting like a wanker.

First, Shaw is apparently some softie. That's rejected when we realise he is actually seriously injured. Next, he's injured himself because he's fat. Whatever else next?


His massive penis affects the way he has to run which in turn causes more injuries particular his hip joints and ankles. Pretty obvious explanation. Surprised nobody else caught it.
 
I should have clarified, I meant publically.

Now that misunderstanding is out of the way, you might actually have to respond to my post. Take your time, I'll wait.
Wait all you want.
 
No evidence? Other than Shaw constantly being injured, constantly being criticised for his lack of training and plenty of evidence to show his weigh problems. No evidence at all.
Fake "evidence" made up by your lot. We are truly living in Trump times...
 
Fake "evidence" made up by your lot. We are truly living in Trump times...
Yes us lot. You mean fans, pundits, managers, journalists. It's all a conspiracy, man. Unbelievable!
 
Yes us lot. You mean fans, pundits, managers, journalists. It's all a conspiracy, man. Unbelievable!
Well, i'd like to see one source saying that Shaw has weight problems. One single credible source. Not some twitter John Doe nobody knows. Your turn
 
Well, i'd like to see one source saying that Shaw has weight problems. One single credible source. Not some twitter John Doe nobody knows. Your turn
Try Google, it's incredible!
 
Wait all you want.

I'm a doctor and I can treat people, but I cannot tell how much pain they're in. So when you call out of your job with PMS, only you will know how much pain you're in, not your doctor, not manager, and certainly not any internet warrior.
 
He needs €500M to make a squad of Warriors. Not even Golden State needs that much. :nervous:
 
Ok that sums it up. One sentece that describes most of today's problems of the world
:lol: explain to me how else I'd find a 'credible source' without using a search engine?
 
:lol: explain to me how else I'd find a 'credible source' without using a search engine?
Your direct answer to credible source was "google". Most things you find there are not really credible. Btw, i still didn't get a credible source. Kinda hard to find i guess?
 
Your direct answer to credible source was "google". Most things you find there are not really credible. Btw, i still didn't get a credible source. Kinda hard to find i guess?
Everything on the internet is true you know!!!!
 
Your direct answer to credible source was "google". Most things you find there are not really credible. Btw, i still didn't get a credible source. Kinda hard to find i guess?
No, Google it. Care to provide any evidence to state otherwise?
 
No, Google it. Care to provide any evidence to state otherwise?
Stating wrong facts, if asked for evidence "search for it", and to sum it all up "find facts that tell i am wrong" :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
That's Trump at it's very best...well done young Padawan
 
I'm a doctor and I can treat people, but I cannot tell how much pain they're in. So when you call out of your job with PMS, only you will know how much pain you're in, not your doctor, not manager, and certainly not any internet warrior.
As a doctor I would have hoped you would have known how to quote someone properly.
 
Stating wrong facts, if asked for evidence "search for it", and to sum it all up "find facts that tell i am wrong" :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
That's Trump at it's very best...well done young Padawan
Refusing to check anything for yourself and saying everyone else is wrong despite substantial evidence to back it up. How comfortable is that tinfoil hat of yours?

Edit: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: there, that means I'm winning.
 
Refusing to check anything for yourself and saying everyone else is wrong despite substantial evidence to back it up. How comfortable is that tin hat of yours?

Edit: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: there, that means I'm winning.
Get some education, learn how to lead a discussion, learn how to back up statements. Then we can keep on discussing.
I could claim now that Rashford is fat, and my statement is only wrong, when you find a source that specifically states otherwise...good luck mate!
It's never to late to get educated
 
Get some education, learn how to lead a discussion, learn how to back up statements. Then we can keep on discussing.
I could claim now that Rashford is fat, and my statement is only wrong, when you find a source that specifically states otherwise...good luck mate!
It's never to late to get educated
You dont accept his own manager as a credible source then spam emoticons and you question my education? Brilliant. Keep wearing that tinfoil hat mate, you'll be safe!

I'm done.
 
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Jose Mourinho displayed his psychological genius today by calling Shaw a “fat ugly twat”.

Utilising the full armoury of psychological take downs at his disposal, master of mind games Jose Mourinho today launched a stunning and witty motivational attack at Luke Shaw by calling him a “fat ugly twat”.

Speaking ahead of the weekend’s football, the Manchester United manager – famed for his ability to bring the best out of his players by zoning in on and targeting subconscious stimuli – labelled his left-back “oafish” and “as big as a house”.

“He’s a fat ugly twat. To look at him, it makes my stomach sick and my eyes bleed. My skin crawls when I look at him and he also smells,” said the psychological sage of Shaw earlier this morning, in yet another masterful move of intellectual chess from the Portuguese genius.

“I cannot even bear to be around him when I eat. Not only because, of course, he will try to eat my food, but the odour from his pores spoils my appetite. He is truly a horrible creature, and the world would be better off without him.”

Continuing his near-hour-long exercise in expert man management, Mourinho revealed that if Shaw has ever appeared presentable, it was because of his own intervention.

“You may see him sometimes wearing nice clothes and not smelling like death. But that is only because I have dressed him, and washed his body, myself. I have gone to his house and scrubbed him down like an elephant at the zoo. It is all me,” he said.

Mourinho later added in private that if this most recent round of cognitive assault failed to motivate “the hefty boy”, he’s almost certainly not cut out for top flight football.


I found this article online - it seems credible.
 
For once i'm thoroughly convinced that Jose is the man for the job. I knew he cannot win the league after what LVG left behind but i was certainly sure that Jose will give us (United fans) what we want to see. Fight and fight till the end. He does not like players who refuse to give their all. He does not think twice about showing players the door if they under perform. Take Rooney as an example, he is our club captain. No other had the guts to keep in away from the starting XI just because they paid him plenty. Jose not only put him to the bench but slowly and steadily has phased him out. Rooney chose to stay but i don't think he should play much (just fyi, i'm a huge fan of his). He needs to make way for better talents.

Like you have already mentioned, we will comeback a much balanced side at the beginning of the next season. He will casually phase out slow and untidy players. Although he likes to counter attack, his defensive instincts are fabulous. I have always thought - if you can defend in the best of ways, one will be able to beat the best of defenses.

Players we need to keep,
De Gea (i hope he stays)
Valencia
Bailly
Herrera
Pogba
Mata
Mkhitaryan
Rashford
Zlatan

These are the only ones that should be assured a place in the team for the next season. The rest will and should apply themselves and push for victories in the Europa and League to prove their worth.

Players we need to get rid of,
Fellaini (tops the list)
Rooney

Players we need to bring in, logically

Bakayoko
Bernardo Silva
Mbappe
N'zonzi
Lindelof
Aurier

illogically,
Antoine
Neymar
Lukaku
Sandro
Sanchez
Ozil and so on..

I cannot wait for the Europa tie, Celta are a good team and can trully test us away from home. Bearing in mind that our recent performances at home have suffered too, cannot say how it may go!