General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
So far i've not seen anything on areas I think we'd do well to develop;

1. Green energy - it's the future, what are we doing at government level to make it easier for homeowners to use green energy and for the market to provide green energy cheaper than it's carbon based alternatives?

2. This might be the secret communist in me, but I do think we should work with the private sector to fund cheap pharmacuticals. The big companies like Astrozenica etc have no interest in making drugs cheap, they just want to make them available at the price governments will pay. The state should create it's own drug company, collaberate with smaller private companies on research and challenge big pharma in the open market. Long term we could reduce the NHS bill on pharmacuticals by half at least.

3. This leads neatly on to outsourcing, particularly in the NHS. It costs far too much money to hire temp staff from nurses to cleaners, to cooks and even the laundry. State owned companies need to be created to deal with this. I think about schools and the cost of stationary etc, i wonder if they could get it cheaper if local councils did all the buying in bulk and then distributed on to schools, rather than schools doing individual purchasing?

4. Defence. Lots of talk of Trident, but in reality it's not going to keep us safe, it'll be the last resort - if someone has the bottle to use it, and even then the response from the enemy will mean mutually assured destruction. Britain is a small country, it needs to focus on defensive arms, making it harder to hit Britain. Laser missile defence (more accurate than using a missile to shoot a missile), UCAV's (unmanned planes can pull more G's, carry more weapons and have more stealthy design), long range air defence system, investing more in eurofighters rather than trident. All this R&D will need investment and if we make the products before our allies, it'll generate customers too.

Sometimes I'd like to see politicians talk a bit more pragmatically about stuff like this!

Broadly, i agree with you on 1, 2 and a bit of 4. Yet while outsourcing/agencies represent an increasing source of waste, i struggle quite badly with the notion that local authorities would bring efficiency, on the contrary.

It's just not a particularly imaginative or effective programme f policies from Corbyn IMO, even if i didn't mistrust Labour for other reasons.
 
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This is not what it says in the manifesto. Anyone see what he actually said here? TND isn't exactly a friendly source.
 
You're alright, Jack.


He's turning the right wing press into absolute cretins and he doesn't even need to go on their shows or write for their papers. :lol:

Jesus christ, it's actually shocking

Watch this and get angry.



Obviously Diane Abbott is an idiot and can't answer simpel questions, but what Piers is asking is moronic.

These idiots no nothing about our nuclear deterrent. Absolute nothing. We don't have tactical nuke capabilities. Our nuclear subs are designed to reduce multiple cities to dust in the event of a weapon being fired against us...

Absolutely moronic
 


This is not what it says in the manifesto. Anyone see what he actually said here? TND isn't exactly a friendly source.


In his speech today he said Labour supported it so im calling bullshit
 
You're alright, Jack.


He's turning the right wing press into absolute cretins and he doesn't even need to go on their shows or write for their papers. :lol:


Yeah, I know Adam Boulton isn't the sharpest tool in the box anyway, but did this even make any sense to him when he wrote it?
 
You're alright, Jack.


He's turning the right wing press into absolute cretins and he doesn't even need to go on their shows or write for their papers. :lol:


Boulton is struggling these days. He's been terrible whenever i catchan interview no matter who it is with
 
The media reaction on Lib Dems policy to legalise Cannabis is intriguing. I couldn't find a single news source being critical of it. Wonder if Corbyn would be allowed to push it.

If i thought they could gain power id vote on that issue alone.
 
The media reaction on Lib Dems policy to legalise Cannabis is intriguing. I couldn't find a single news source being critical of it. Wonder if Corbyn would be allowed to push it.

If i thought they could gain power id vote on that issue alone.
So would a number of my friends.
 
The media reaction on Lib Dems policy to legalise Cannabis is intriguing. I couldn't find a single news source being critical of it. Wonder if Corbyn would be allowed to push it.

If i thought they could gain power id vote on that issue alone.

Eventually some civil servant at No 11 will make a good enough case for what the tax revenue could be used for. And i think when framed in those terms, legalisation will happen sooner or later.
 
I think a good centrist policy would be to cover tuition fees for STEM subject and/or subject that will attain the skills that are desperately needed by the country or that add significant value to the economy.
If you've got £10bn to spend on HE, just ramp up bursaries for lower income kids and give extra funding to the universities themselves.

But in reality, this is just retail politics in the same way that it was for the Lib Dems.
 
If you've got £10bn to spend on HE, just ramp up bursaries for lower income kids and give extra funding to the universities themselves.

But in reality, this is just retail politics in the same way that it was for the Lib Dems.

It is the same with Labour's zero hours contracts policy. I think they need to be better regulated so they are not exploitative but they are a useful tool for the economy.
 
Eventually some civil servant at No 11 will make a good enough case for what the tax revenue could be used for. And i think when framed in those terms, legalisation will happen sooner or later.

Already happening, part of the Lib Dems policy push is because US hedge fund managers were speaking with Clegg. There's a lot of money circling around the issue and there's been a fair bit in financial press.

I dont think it'll be long, capitalism is what will push the policy through
 
Already happening, part of the Lib Dems policy push is because US hedge fund managers were speaking with Clegg. There's a lot of money circling around the issue and there's been a fair bit in financial press.

I dont think it'll be long, capitalism is what will push the policy through
Capitalism is part of the reason it hasn't happened yet. Booze companies are a big part of the anti-legalisation lobby, for example.
 
I think Labour will do much better than expected. Those who are saying that they'll be voting Lib Dem or Green will decide to vote Labour when the time comes. Labour is going to contest all the seats anyway. They are not going to not put up candidates in some seats so as to not split the anti Tory vote. A lot of Green and Lib Dem votes will switch to Labour, even though they are contesting in those seats.

Might seem like a daft thing to say, but stranger things have happened.
 
Find your nearest marginal. Campaign.

Also, masses of people don't have a clue about politics. You could print out a list of policies from the manifesto and keep them in a pocket. When the time is right, ask people down the pub, or friends of friends wherever you happen to meet them in a social situation, if there's anything there they would really, really want to see implemented by government. You might just want to leave it at that. Don't even tell them they're Labour policies. Sow the seed of political thought in their minds and allow it to grow on its own. Let them discuss it with other people in their circle who might also not be politically engaged. Maybe talk politics with them again prior to the deadline for registering to vote on 22nd May and again before June 8th.
You must be a barrel of laughs down the pub.......
 
Somebody please tell me these claims about Nick Robinson's political past are fake news!

 
Do you think that all news reporters are supposed to have no political views?
 
Somebody please tell me these claims about Nick Robinson's political past are fake news!



Those are all positions that would have been held by him 30 years ago. Can a person not change their political alignment? Him being director for a conservative group for multilateral disarmament even suggests that he was more left leaning.
 
It shouldn't be an issue because they should be impartial. Instead we get:


The elegance one is the most baffling reason for people to get wound up, he's literally pointing to her avoiding the questions. If you describe someone as "elegantly shooting themselves in the foot", you aren't complimenting them.
 
Do you think that all news reporters are supposed to have no political views?
Of course not, but it must be unbelievably difficult for him to be impartial. I am a Labour member and voter and hate the Tories (the 1%ers) and woud really, really struggle to present the case in favour of Tories. I mean - it would be just impossible. He is, according to this, far, far more allied to the Tory cause than I am to Labour. How would he even begin to recognise his own bias? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and concede that he must try very hard to be fair, but it's very plain that he does struggle - not just to be unbiased, but to see himself as the biased Tory he very plainly is and always will be.
 
Of course not, but it must be unbelievably difficult for him to be impartial. I am a Labour member and voter and hate the Tories (the 1%ers) and woud really, really struggle to present the case in favour of Tories. I mean - it would be just impossible. He is, according to this, far, far more allied to the Tory cause than I am to Labour. How would he even begin to recognise his own bias? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and concede that he must try very hard to be fair, but it's very plain that he does struggle - not just to be unbiased, but to see himself as the biased Tory he very plainly is and always will be.

What you posted showed that he was involved in the youth ranks of the Tory party 30-35 years ago. It says nothing of what his political alignment is now.
 
Robinson's clearly a Tory. I don't personally rage against that but I think pretending it isn't clear is a bit much.

I know when faced with our Denis' full on Corbyn4life rhetoric it can be hard to agree with him but still...
 
Maybe Robinson is Orc.
 
Robinson's clearly a Tory. I don't personally rage against that but I think pretending it isn't clear is a bit much.

I know when faced with our Denis' full on Corbyn4life rhetoric it can be hard to agree with him but still...

The question isn't if he is a Tory but if he is abusing his power as a BBC journalist to do down Corbyn.

Why is he clearly a Tory anyway?