Corbyn isn't a nurse doing 12 hour days at that age though, is he?
And you claim that HE is the idiot.
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And you claim that HE is the idiot.
I am in my thirties so although young, not the young that you are talking about (18-24) I am also working class and about as close to the poverty line than i have ever been largely thanks to this Tory government.
so in short, no that probably isn't the kind of people that this Labour attracts.
We are laughing at you mate.
Do you know what, let me take the time to actually spell it out for you..
We as a nation have a fecking once in a lifetime opportunity to elect a good, honest man to office. But will we take it? oh hell no.
You see, nobody actually gives any legitimate reasons for Corbyn being incapable, most of the major decisions he makes after becoming elected have to go to a parliamentary vote anyway but we will ignore that largely because the sun/mail/telegraph/express tell us to.
The fact of the matter is this, If the Tories win this election, we as a country are in serious trouble.
policing.
Education.
NHS.
Public services.
Transport.
Every single one of the above issues are serious, every single one of them have faced cuts since the Tories were in power and every single one of them will continue to face cuts over the next 5 years and guess what? Working class people will vote Tory and then wonder why this is happening.
Corbyn will bring us back to the 70's apparently, people used to be able to buy a house in the 70's so there's that. May wants to bring back fox hunting and i will be brutally honest with you, if you are the kind of person that likes to chase animals and kill them, you are a fecking first class cnut.
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Case in point that any Labour government in doesn't means a end to the poorest in society getting attacked.
This type manifesto(And the fact that Labour is now a anti austerity party) wouldn't of happened without the two Corbyn leadership wins. And a question that fails the great minds of the Labour PLP - Who would of been better than Corbyn ?
Also I might as well a get a dig in at New Labour but there really was no 13 years of building, a good amount of blame can be put on New Labour as to why this country is such shite hole.
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How many hours a day do you think a pm does?
It's easy to understand why they burn through so much money when you deal with the support functions for a while.
I used to work with the finance departments of all the London NHS trusts. Every single one of them had multiple contractors on 1-2k per DAY, most of them career public sector people with ACCAs and the like doing the rounds of all the trusts.
I sat in an interview once with a senior guy from Barclays looking to move for a better work/life balance. He was a seriously good candidate, but they just weren't interested. They thought he wouldn't 'get' the NHS.
They don't need any more money than they already get. You could double the budget and the next year they'd want more.
Is he holding a needle about he's about to press into someones vein though? Or preparing the right concentration of a potentially deadly chemical to give to a patient?
People should be able to work as long as they want to, but we shouldn't make people work to an unsafe age
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Better a pure manifesto we never implement than a compromise one we do huh? How noble.
Anyone.
Whatever you say. I'll just leave this here.
Are we really back to arguing that an Eagle, Owen Smith, or Liz Kenndal Labour with a 'centre' manifesto would have swept the election?
Sky discussing Corbyn's huge crowds as a bad thing 
Possibly someone a bit more charismatic than that lot might have. But I'd also argue that someone more popular than Corbyn could win with his manifesto also. It doesn't really matter too much to many people anymore, the average person goes to the booth and thinks "that May lady seems sensible and nice" or "that Corbyn is a right ruffian and is clueless". All about what the papers are telling them.
The tories arguments on tax are interesting. When challenged why they refuse to promise not to raise tax they say they they may need to but they don't want to, yet they're also arguing that Labour raising taxes won't raise money. Which is it?
This argument isn't going to cut it if Labour fall to their worst level since the 30s next month.
But that's exactly why another MP with Corbyn's manifesto would also lose... because they'd have the same media discrediting them and doing whatever they can to ensure that individual doesn't get into power. It's his policy, not his personality that makes him unelectable. Until the day comes where the media doesn't have the same influence and power over the electorate, it will be the same. Corbyn does come with baggage, but I think we're kidding ourselves if we think a Dan Jarvis or Chuka Umunna would win with the same media backlash.
I'm certainly not saying a safer no frills manifesto wouldn't be less of a risk. It wouldn't win though.
Sky seem kind of positive on the manifesto so far. Fingers crossed no gaffes in it
Shelagh Fogarty spent a good portion of her show yesterday, trying to downplay Corbyn's support for the IRA. Worse still, the good and honest man from Islington repeated the gross error two decades later; Stop the War gave tacit support to Iraqi terrorist organisations, killers of their own compatriots and British citizens alike. You can throw an extra 2, 3, 4 billion at the NHS, but these character questions are going to be huge problems for the voter.
On to other news: i gather that we are now renationalising the water industry too? This one i am actually more open to, only not as part of this massive programme of state buyouts proposed by Labour.
On to other news: i gather that we are now renationalising the water industry too? This one i am actually more open to, only not as part of this massive programme of state buyouts proposed by Labour.
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So Labour wants a 45p rate to kick in at £80,000, and 50p at £123,000.
I think with Corbyn it's definitely his demeanour and public perception that's the real issue. The same manifesto with someone like Chuka Umunna leading the party would make a lot more people think about their vote, probably still a way off winning an election but not the forgone conclusion that it is right now.
If you want to launch an investment manifesto, Bradford is certainly a good example of where its needed.
I still think the scrapping of tuition fees is a huge mistake. Not worthwhile and its certainly not progressive
The public perception of Corbyn has largely been created by the media... they'd do the same to another Labour leader with left-wing policy. A late change of leader a few months ago would only have helped in the sense that the media wouldn't have had 2 years to do their damage like they've had with Corbyn.
There's so much ammunition with Corbyn though, he's like a dream for the right wing press.
Agreed. Helps high earners more than anyone else.
Agree and as I said, he does come with baggage and I'd have backed a more electable Labour leader for that reason alone (although Eagle and Smith were terrible choices). My frustration is what is happening in this country... food bank usage rocketing, the NHS struggling massively... yet the media will largely give Theresa May and the Government a free pass whilst Corbyn gets dirt thrown at him for meetings he had 20 years ago. Yet people lap it up and t's ridiculous.
Ah they've sneaked an extensed maternity leave into the manifesto, 52 weeks. Thats a vote winner
How is he proposing to do that then? By wasting their taxes.
Yup. What I find to be the biggest disconnect is in how is supporters see Jeremy as a 'man of the people' compared to more of the general public's view of him as an out of touch 'Islington luvvie duvvie lefty'. We'll find out more at the election but that isn't something that's going to change, if it doesn't in the next three weeks. He's as much of a career politician as anyone, and people see him that way.
He's always polled as 'honest' and thats not a small thing for a politician tbf
If they were earning less than the existing minimum wage, why won't they be doing so with the new one?
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Regional public ownership?
What do we make on the Tories pledge for employee rights in their manifesto?
Committing to keeping employee rights exactly the same as they are in the EU once we leave is a big one, if they keep to it and the pledge is a straight one.
Committing to keeping employee rights exactly the same as they are in the EU once we leave is a big one, if they keep to it and the pledge is a straight one.
The audience have booed the journalists present, requiring Corbyn to call them to order.
Great. Except they've put the fees up for tribunals, so the average worker can't afford to enforce the law
But is there, or is there not going to be a "bonfire of workers' rights"?
A question from communists on what to do about the shockingly biased media
Demeanour, but also a perception of capability, rightly or wrongly. With Attlee, Wilson, Brown their opponents obviously disagreed with their objectives, but did acknowledge that they were clever and capable people. Corbyn and his team have a lot of work to do in comparison.