Oh yes, how adult of you. No shit Sherlock.
It's a subject I actually know far more than you realize. Back on point, was the Soviet Union also a 'Western Power' Mr. Adult?Manchester Arena Bombing 22.05.17
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Oh yes, how adult of you. No shit Sherlock.
It's a subject I actually know far more than you realize. Back on point, was the Soviet Union also a 'Western Power' Mr. Adult?Bottom line is that even if the west have militarily caused devastation and led to the death of innocents.. killing young people like this who have nothing to do with it is an unjust and despicable way of making a point/getting revenge, furthermore what our forefathers done in the name of religion or political strategy shouldn't be held against current or future generations.
This 'Islam is to blame' 'it has more violent people' than christianity is just all immature mud-slinging and isn't going to resolve feck all, it is just further dividing people.
Hiding behind religious doctrine seems to be the strategy ISIS have taken, rather than following it. Its a group of dangerous criminals who instead of getting their hands on nuclear weapons, have got their hands on a more dangerous chemical.. 'religion' and utilising it to wreak terror. I doubt they give two fecks about reaching some holy land.
Nevertheless, it is clear that religious schools, certain mosques have become breeding/recruiting grounds for their bullshit which need to be closed down and furthermore tighter checks/controls on immigration (on individuals who regularly frequent countries like Libya/Syria/Afghanistan/Iraq does need to be taken). What would make an even bigger difference is the likes of the UK to stop making arms sales to countries like Saudi, and to stop intervening in middle-eastern conflicts.
I support the war on ISIS, but the question is, should there have been a war on ISIS to begin with? no. This all stems from the poor handling of the 9/11 aftermath.. what was a legitimate war on Afghanistan, which most muslims were on board with, led to the ridiculous war in Iraq and has led to the mess we find ourselves in.
This 'Islam is to blame' 'it has more violent people' than christianity is just all immature mud-slinging and isn't going to resolve feck all, it is just further dividing people.
Hiding behind religious doctrine seems to be the strategy ISIS have taken, rather than following it. Its a group of dangerous criminals who instead of getting their hands on nuclear weapons, have got their hands on a more dangerous chemical.. 'religion' and utilising it to wreak terror. I doubt they give two fecks about reaching some holy land.
Nevertheless, it is clear that religious schools, certain mosques have become breeding/recruiting grounds for their bullshit which need to be closed down and furthermore tighter checks/controls on immigration (on individuals who regularly frequent countries like Libya/Syria/Afghanistan/Iraq does need to be taken). What would make an even bigger difference is the likes of the UK to stop making arms sales to countries like Saudi, and to stop intervening in middle-eastern conflicts.
I support the war on ISIS, but the question is, should there have been a war on ISIS to begin with? no. This all stems from the poor handling of the 9/11 aftermath.. what was a legitimate war on Afghanistan, which most muslims were on board with, led to the ridiculous war in Iraq and has led to the mess we find ourselves in.
Is not an important part of the classical liberalism, on which western values in many ways are founded, that each individual should be judged for his or her actions? And assumed innocent until proven otherwise?
In some ways it's difficult to generalise like this without departing from the very values you seem to want to protect.
Salman Abedi's brother arrested in Libya.
Best bit of commentary so far...
Hey, being a white supremacist is one thing, but failure to use punctuation should be a capital crime!
"Muslamic ray guns!"
That's an exchange that will have been had a million times in the past couple of years. Sadly there are too many people with too little knowledge of how nationality works. I don't even understand how they think deporting people would permanently end a problem either, there are always people willing to find a way around it.
At last....someone talking sense and so making sense. I particularly like him criticising people who say this suicide bomber was not a Muslim and says he was a Muslim. Hell if people can't even bring themselves to admit that we'll never make any progress.
He's almost as bad as Keith Lemon
I wish they'd never named the cnut. The US media/'Intelligence' services have just immortalised him. It helps nobody, you Yank twats.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40026413
To be honest, I'm more worried about copycats wanting their own slice of notoriety.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40026413
To be honest, I'm more worried about copycats wanting their own slice of notoriety.
While we are being frank, it should be painfully obvious that the answer to the issue here is not a regime change in Saudi Arabia and dissolution of Israel.
If you argue that the radical contingent of Islam is minuscule, you should also be the first person to argue for the right of a cartoonist to draw the prophet's picture. As should any Christian who should not want films and novels banned because of their less than favorable view of Christianity. I have friends who vehemently deny that there is a problem with Islam and blame it on western interference, but still went to participate in demonstrations against cartoons of Muhammed and some random Coptic Christian video.
Maybe I should avoid posting in this thread. RIP to the victims.
If you argue that the radical contingent of Islam is minuscule, you should also be the first person to argue for the right of a cartoonist to draw the prophet's picture. As should any Christian who should not want films and novels banned because of their less than favorable view of Christianity. I have friends who vehemently deny that there is a problem with Islam and blame it on western interference, but still went to participate in demonstrations against cartoons of Muhammed and some random Coptic Christian video.
Maybe I should avoid posting in this thread. RIP to the victims.
He's not, you take that back. I can't bear Keith Lemon.
I hurt my wrist in a fall the other day & I couldn't wear a bandage because of Keith Lemon's legacy.
Father of Salman Abedi now arrested in Libya.
Harry Hill is 95% Keith Lemon.
strange that his father didn't go into hiding
I absolutely can't stand the woman, I think she is vile.
Twitter really does bring out the most stupid in society
All those who are still considered missing now must surely have died in the bombings? Surely by now most of the injured who are being treated in various hospitals have been identified and their families have been informed? Heart breaking. Tragic incident.
She's Geoff Shreeves' mum.
The UK must now withhold intel on this bombing with the US.
They're leaking stuff now to the NYTimes including photos of the bombing materials at the crime scene.
They're leaking stuff now to the NYTimes including photos of the bombing materials at the crime scene.
What a total fecking shitface of a cnut.
Yeah, they must be hiding in Al Capone's vault.
The US is leaking photos of the detonator used and other materials at the scene. Absolutely stupid thing to do. They are acting in a stupid manner.
All intel must not be shared with the US. They are causing a lot of harm to the investigation and to the UK intelligence agencies.
All intel must not be shared with the US. They are causing a lot of harm to the investigation and to the UK intelligence agencies.
Apparently his father is now the administrative manager of the Central Security Force in Tripoli. Probably felt safe from arrest.
What on earth is wrong with them. Have they suddenly lost their marbles or what!
Is this Trump's hand trying to create a culture of fear to get his travel ban and wall through?
Someone called Trump is their president, of course they have lost their marbles.
Only the bare minimum about the perpetrators of a terrorist attack should ever be released. Not names, not pictures, not details about the bomb and certainly not last words/videos.
The purpose of these bombings isn't to conquer or invade. They're to influence political reactions and inspire political movements. As such, the media is very much a weapon in the arsenal of extremists. And one which seems totally willing to be manipulated.
The purpose of these bombings isn't to conquer or invade. They're to influence political reactions and inspire political movements. As such, the media is very much a weapon in the arsenal of extremists. And one which seems totally willing to be manipulated.
Not everything is trumps evil plan (even though he is a massive cock)
This is just the media being arseholes
It is the US intelligence services leaking to the press. Trump has already sullied the name of the UK intelligence services to advance his own agenda.
It's the intelligence services who are giving the media the information.
Ariana Grande suspends tour. Poor lass.
No need for the US press to show this stuff, but there really is little downside to this given that the terror groups already know how to build these things and there are already plenty of plans on the internet for such things for anyone else who wants to find them.
Why on earth are they trying to undermine our investigations? Why not just give out all the names of the people we are wanting to arrest. Let's give them a head start should we? Absolute idiots.
US intelligence has been leaking Trump info, but you can at least say that was in the national interest. Telling the press where the bomber's torso was found is not.
They are starting to love the sound of their voice, they need silencing otherwise they are going to hurt themselves.