What do you expect him to say? Why don't you ask him if he'd take a pay cut to join United, see how that goes.
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What do you expect him to say? Why don't you ask him if he'd take a pay cut to join United, see how that goes.
Well you're making assumptions and putting words in his mouth for no reason, rather than focusing on what he did say. And he explicitly mentioned titles, not CL.
I personally think he did so because he would be open to joining us even if we didn't win Europa, but unlike you i'm not speculating and making assessments based on my assumptions.
He just wants to be in a team that's able to win things, CL naturally falls within that, but he didn't explicitly point it out.
And what does his pay have to do with anything? Would any rational person take a pay cut to do a more demanding job?
is this not the only way Chelsea have went from mid table side to one of the top teams in the country ?
Not exactly from mid table side, but yes, money was by far the biggest reason. Just like it would help Spurs in a scenario I'm talking about.
They won nothing, but finished above us in the PL. We won two trophies, one european and qualified for Champions League. It's safe to say, that yes. Absolutely no doubt.
The only team I see in a better situation for the future, right now, than United is Spurs, because of their team and style of play. Pochetino is doing an amazing work there. But in the end, yet again, they had nothing to show for.
If we did create a thread discussing that which I doubt we did because of obvious reasons, I am sure I would have said they did indeed have a more successful season than any of the other top 4 teams who finished with nothing. However it is a completely different discussion if we are debating which team is better. League position doesn't lie, we are most definitely not better than the others who finished above us but it's clear we did have a more successful season than all of them apart from Chelsea.
I mentioned a pay cut because money plays a very important role. Let's say, Griezmann would love to play for Barcelona or Bayern. What difference would it make if they cannot afford his fee? If he wants a new challenge outside of Spain and the only top club that's willing to satisfy both his and Atletico's financial demands is United, then that's where he's going to end up. He also knows that United can afford to keep spending to add more players of quality so his chances of winning things there are quite good. Again, it all comes down to money.
Why are you even arguing based on mythical scenarios? What's the point of all this?
United are a bigger club than Spurs, if they were bought by a billionaire tomorrow this wouldn't change. Any football fan with a brain cell would know that. Also, living in London does not matter to every foreigner. Griezmann is 26 and he has only won one Spanish Super Cup during his 3 years at Atletico, I would say he'd be more impressed by a team who has been through 3 different managers in 3 years in what is dubbed to be the worst years in United history and still came up with 3 trophies (one being in Europe) than a team who has made strides but ultimately been disappointing in Europe and failed to add any silverware. Clue is in what he said 'he wants to win titles', even at our worst we manage to win stuff while the majority of clubs cannot.
Isn't that how every transfer works? Club which can satisfy the selling club and players demands signs the player?Also, do you realize how flawed your argument is considering Kante joined you last summer over every other Top 6 club? His fee and wages were moderate and easily affordable by any of the clubs yet he still chose you even though you finished 10th and miles off the top? Let me clue you in, it is not because you are located in London or you have a richer history than any of the other clubs. It is because you win stuff on a regular basis, you add quality players on a regular basis therefore chances of you competing for major honours is high in near future. No different to the project United try to sell to the players.
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This was the same nonsense thrown at Pogba last summer fueld by Balague etc. He's only coming to United because hes being paid 3 billion a week and Madrid refuse to match it. Then his contract was leaked and it was a relatively normal pay packet compared to other top players.
People like you forget how big of a club we are. Join us and you're a superstar, join Spurs and you're in Crooks team of the week every fortnight.
I think we should look at it from 2 different perspectives.
1. Value right now - We are behind Chelsea and in front of Spurs
2. Value in Progression - Behind Chelsea and Spurs
It's all relative, you see. The point difference between 3rd and 6th is nothing, so nobody should argue about big differences in performance. Spurs were still comfortably away from the 3-6 pack and that's why on a basis of progress i would have them above us. However, this progression value should be connected to the results next year because if Spurs don't translate this year's performance into actual success next year, it would have been for nothing.
1. Value right now - We are behind Chelsea and in front of Spurs
2. Value in Progression - Behind Chelsea and Spurs
It's all relative, you see. The point difference between 3rd and 6th is nothing, so nobody should argue about big differences in performance. Spurs were still comfortably away from the 3-6 pack and that's why on a basis of progress i would have them above us. However, this progression value should be connected to the results next year because if Spurs don't translate this year's performance into actual success next year, it would have been for nothing.
Progress to what though? Winning things?
Football isn't a video game. We're at level 4 now but if we work hard we'll get to level 3 and after that it's level 2 and we're among the elite
United and City could go out in their managers second season and sign Griezmann and Neymar and jump the Manchester clubs to challengers over the space of 3 months. Dele could get his head turned by Real and set them back from the pack again.
Spurs are a steady ship but there's a realistic scenario where this is as good as they get.
I stand by them too. They're the same as mine!
That literally happens in every transfer though surely?
And of course it doesn't all come down to money - he explicitly said he wants to win titles.
That's a very lazy way to look at it. Progress compared to their prior situation. We were in crisis and have progressed more than, say City. Spurs are on the right way and deserve admiration, even if the jump to the next level would take much more.
They say great minds think alike. It pleases me that ours do too.
It's not mythical, it's hypothetical.
Nobody argues that United is a bigger club than Spurs but Chelsea and City got plenty of players over the last few years that would otherwise have ended up at Old Trafford. Now it got to the point where you had to start spending even more on transfers than those two because that was the only way not be left behind. Being a bigger club helps to some degree, but if you want to see what being a big club without lots of money gets you, look at Liverpool.
Here's a more believable scenario. How confident would you be of Griezmann picking United over City/Chelsea all things equal (transfer fee, wages, agent fees etc.) at this moment in time?
Keano nailed it a few weeks back. It's embarrassing to see so called 'big clubs' celebrating 4th place. Celebrating actually winning things on the other hand is wunderbar!
No, it does all come down to money, because if United didn't have deep pockets and willingness to spend what it takes to land Griezmann then we wouldn't be discussing it as something realistic, would we?
It's not lazy, its the reality. Nobody works up from 5/6 and in a couple of steady and hard working steps they become an elite side. This isn't a promoted side consolidating their league status, this is Spurs competing v sides that can add top quality and make huge strides over one summer.
Look at the last two season, they've finished behind two sides who were miles behind them in the league before. Where was their progression?
Wait, why isn't it equal now? Lukaku could cost just as much
What does Lukaku have to do with it? All things equal means if all three clubs offered the same financial terms to Griezman/Atletico.
Because it shows Chelsea want to spend big money on a striker this summer so they obviously have the money so why isn't it equal as we stand?
Unless Chelsea have turned down Griezmann to sign Lukaku then isn't it safe to presume they've at least approached Antoine?
Do we think United are the only side that's approached him? You're talking like we have an unfair advantage
Then why doesn't he play in China, USA, Dubai?
Spurs fans will remember it, thats all that really matters to be fair.
He's saying the oil money clubs cant spend as much as Man.utd 
I feel bad for you guys, so poor, can't really compete with the big boys.
I feel bad for you guys, so poor, can't really compete with the big boys.Because he can make lots of money and still play competitive footbal at the highest level in any of the top european leagues.
But you said it all comes down to money, Griezmann himself didn't say anything about competitive football - you've just inserted that in now, he only said he wants to win titles.
If he was to play in China, Dubai, USA he would earn lots of money and win titles - and that's all he wants, according to you.
So why doesn't he do it?
Where did use the word 'unfair'? If United sign Griezmann this summer, then good for them, they've got the player they wanted and are willing to pay what it takes.
I haven't seen Griezmann being linked to any other club than United. As for other clubs' approaches, while they may appreciate his talent his cost may seem prohibitive even to very wealthy clubs out there. Plus, clubs may have other priorities and may look to spend money on other positions/players.
All that is irrelevant because it's hypothetical. Since Spurs are being dismissed by some here, I suggested City/Chelsea as an example instead. Clubs not as big as United, but capable of competing with you financially. So again, how confident would you be of landing Griezmann if those two clubs were going after him withall three financial offers being equal?
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What? Win a Cup, and loose the place in the CL against winning winning a cup, the EL and securing a place in the CL?
It's pretty much obvious imo.
That insane logic also happened before the game yesterday, when a loss against Ajax would be a blessing in disguise against us winning the game, the title and having CL football.
When I said 'it comes down money' I meant not just the player's wages, but the huge fee that would be paid for his services and an opportunity to play alongside other quality players because, once again, United can afford to buy them.
Most world class players aren't willing to go to Dubai or China just to make more money because they want to play in the best leagues against other top players and of course in the CL. Doesn't change the fact that they want to make a lot of money in the process.
How the feck is one FA Cup trophy better than Europa League, EFL Cup and a CL qualification? You're either daft as fecking brush or a WUM. I'd go for the former judging by your earlier posts.
You are a bit thick. The whole point why we have had a more successful season than the other who finished above us in the top 4 without winning anything is that in the end all of us have CL but additionally we have 2 trophies. It isn't that hard to comprehend. I know there are some who would probably argue that even without Cl the same point stands but that's a minority.
Imagine Real Madrid losing to Juventus. Would United have had a better European campaign than them?
Do people actually value EL win over CL runner up?
Do people actually value EL win over CL runner up?
If you think Chelsea and City haven't approached them then I don't know what to say. Where would he have went if we lost last night? Other clubs must have been lined up, he's never staying at Atletico.
I'll keep coming back to Pogba. Chelsea wanted him the season before we signed him, his agent confirmed that you matched his fee and his wage demands. Raiolla tried his best to get Pogba to Chelsea yet Paul said no.
We come in 12 months later with a similar financial package and he joins us
We sign Martial despite Chelsea matching our offer at the last minute.
Mkhi was set for Arsenal last summer but as soon as we came in he fought to join us, thrown chairs and all.
Its not always about money. It'll be years before joining City / Chelsea and United will ever be equal on your terms.
What? Who the feck compared United to the Spanish and Italian champions?
It's the same guy who said that Arsenal getting fecked 10-2 by Bayern in 1/16 had better European campaign than us winning the EL. It's a trap.
Also, do you realize how flawed your argument is considering Kante joined you last summer over every other Top 6 club? His fee and wages were moderate and easily affordable by any of the clubs yet he still chose you even though you finished 10th and miles off the top? Let me clue you in, it is not because you are located in London or you have a richer history than any of the other clubs. It is because you win stuff on a regular basis, you add quality players on a regular basis therefore chances of you competing for major honours is high in near future. No different to the project United try to sell to the players.
Yes, that's how it works. But not every club has financial resources to sign any player they'd like to have. Isn't that a fact, too?
Kante was approached by Mourinho but by then he had already decided to join Chelsea. Neither club was in the CL but I wouldn't be surprised if he'd picked United over CFC if Jose got to him first. Either way, he had an agreement with Leicester that if a big club comes along they'll let him go. Chelsea just acted faster.
Here's another smart arse who can't read the OP.