General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Wish I could find the gif where they put May's face on Gerrard's and Corbyn's face on Demba Ba's in that wonderful footballing moment.
 
Corbyn plans to slam the police cuts and link our dismal foreign policy, and how we like to enter a country and leave a power vacuum, with the increase in terror group activity.. and he'll get slated for it in the press.

feck it, I've changed my mind on voting SNP. It's time to come back to Labour.

I hope he isn't that stupid but doing this right now would be pretty typical.
 
Wish I could find the gif where they put May's face on Gerrard's and Corbyn's face on Demba Ba's in that wonderful footballing moment.
This? It's not a gif tho
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Is there any comprehensive data on 60+ voters? Wondering if the Tories abandoning triple lock has made any difference.
 
Don't do it to yourself guys. Shy Tories are always a big factor, imagine how shy they cnuts are going to be about voting for this manifesto.
your right, people don't like to admit the are voting for the tories..... says a lot about the party really
 
Is there any comprehensive data on 60+ voters? Wondering if the Tories abandoning triple lock has made any difference.
It must have an impact. Truth is it's unaffordable and she's actually right, unpalatable as it is.

The IFS is doing a press conference on the party's costings tomorrow at 9:30am tomorrow. Expect both parties using their research to bash each other!
 
They're still using 'strong and stable'! Ffs. Just got this release.

Conservative response to Education Policy Institute and IFS reports on school spending

Responding to the Education Policy Institute and IFS reports on school spending, Schools Minister Nick Gibb said:

“Jeremy Corbyn can’t deliver any of his promises on school spending – this analysis shows his numbers categorically do not add up and he is too much of a shambles to negotiate a Brexit deal that works for Britain.

“Only Theresa May can provide the strong and stable leadership our country needs through Brexit – so we protect the economy and are able to fund our schools to educate our children. We will increase the overall schools budget by £4 billion by 2022 – a real terms rise for every year of the Parliament compared to current spending plans – and ensure that no school has its budget cut as a result of a fair funding formula.”
 
It must have an impact. Truth is it's unaffordable and she's actually right, unpalatable as it is.

The IFS is doing a press conference on the party's costings tomorrow at 9:30am tomorrow. Expect both parties using their research to bash each other!
I've read that the Chancellor of the Exchequer is hamstrung by triple lock. It takes up so much of the money allotted to social care that everything else goes neglected. Now whether that's Tory scapegoating, and they wouldn't do anything anyway, is a different matter.

I'm against it myself, but I am in favour of Labour advocating it for this election. Hopefully it'll help avoid a landslide. And as Labour have no chance of winning, they can scrap it by the time 2022 comes around and blame it on the Tories.
 

For nationalisation to be so popular is a positive for the left. It quite literally doesn't get any more left wing than nationalisation. With Labour it's mainly just the rail industry as far as I can tell. Also NHS contracts.
 
Is there any comprehensive data on 60+ voters? Wondering if the Tories abandoning triple lock has made any difference.

It must have an impact. Truth is it's unaffordable and she's actually right, unpalatable as it is.

The IFS is doing a press conference on the party's costings tomorrow at 9:30am tomorrow. Expect both parties using their research to bash each other!


For nationalisation to be so popular is a positive for the left. It quite literally doesn't get any more left wing than nationalisation. With Labour it's mainly just the rail industry as far as I can tell. Also NHS contracts.
I think they also might to potential nationalise water and royal mail as well. But yeah even if the most likely outcome happens and Tories win in June, there's some really positives to be taken.
 
It would take £100m+ to nationalise water, unless you wanted to do it without compensation, and turn us into the next Zimbabwe.

That does beg the question of how Thatcher squandered and wasted the privatisation revenues in the first place of course, along with the north sea oil revenues, the housing sales, and anything else that wasn't screwed down, but unfortunately all that's gone, we are where we are.
 
Is there any comprehensive data on 60+ voters? Wondering if the Tories abandoning triple lock has made any difference.
Odd thing is that (per latest YouGov) the over 65 number is barely moving at all, it's the 25-49 mark that seems to be moving the most. Tories still lead among pensioners by 67-19.

Also in the latest YouGov are some reasons why I don't think it's a great idea for Labour to start hitting Tories on terror related stuff. Internment of people suspected of extremist sympathies is backed 41-36. The death penalty for people murdering in the name of terror is backed 56-30. On a slightly less draconian but probably more relevant question given the existence of the snooper's charter - forcing social media companies to provide government with a backdoor to bypass encryption is backed 68-18. Tories are also backed on defence and security by 41-18, Brexit by 39-17, law and order 38-21, asylum and immigration 31-19. On personal levels, May is trusted on terrorism 55-30, Corbyn is 33-51. Rudd is bad at 24-40, Abbott is woeful at 9-62. Labour's big leads are on the NHS, education and housing. Go hopeful on those for the last fortnight.
 
Odd thing is that (per latest YouGov) the over 65 number is barely moving at all, it's the 25-49 mark that seems to be moving the most. Tories still lead among pensioners by 67-19.
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It's not odd at all, as Jippy says dropping the triple lock is obviously the right thing to do. Any of the old codgers that don't see that probably don't know what it's all about anyway.
 
It's not odd at all, as Jippy says dropping the triple lock is obviously the right thing to do. Any of the old codgers that don't see that probably don't know what it's all about anyway.
I agree that that's the right policy (though the double lock doesn't really save much either tbh), but dropping it was even less popular among pensioners than the dementia tax.
 
Probably been posted already but I am absolutely astounded by this.


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If there was a leadership debate on the cards, May would get destroyed. Shocking still to me that there won't be one.


Corbyn will give a speech tomorrow about uk foreign policy and police cuts. Could be risky as no one wants to use the horrible events of a few days ago especially if it's seen as using for political gain but if the current UK policy is blow up countries aboard thus creating extremism hot spots and at the same time cutting policing so it's harder to catch extremists then it would be absurd to not call it out.
 
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Corbyn will give a speech tomorrow about uk foreign policy and police cuts. Could be risky as no one wants to use the horrible events of a few days ago especially if it's seen as using for political gain but if the current UK policy is blow up countries aboard thus creating extremism hot spots and at the same time cutting policing so it's harder to catch extremists then it would be absurd to not call it out.

Although he's making up a lot of leads, he's got nothing to lose at this point. While it could be risky, if he handles well, could be a real positive impact. Wish him to do well
 
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Corbyn will give a speech tomorrow about uk foreign policy and police cuts. Could be risky as no one wants to use the horrible events of a few days ago especially if it's seen as using for political gain but if the current UK policy is blow up countries aboard thus creating extremism hot spots and at the same time cutting policing so it's harder to catch extremists then it would be absurd to not call it out.
This strikes me as a really bad idea.
 
For the first time since I was old enough to vote, I won't be voting conservative. Firstly the voting record of our conservative mp is very interesting, he has voted repeatedly in ways that completely contradict the claims and promises made in his last election campaign, add this to the snoopers charter, the fox hunting and the sneaky dropping of support for the ban on importing ivory, I'm done.
 
your right, people don't like to admit the are voting for the tories..... says a lot about the party really

I just can't be bothered to deal with being pestered by the hordes of idealistic socialists on Facebook etc. if I announced I will vote Conservative.
 
This strikes me as a really bad idea.
I'm not sure myself if it's a good idea but it's absurd that this Tory government disastrous foreign policy and policing cuts can get a free pass because of the potential of not resonating well.
For the first time since I was old enough to vote, I won't be voting conservative. Firstly the voting record of our conservative mp is very interesting, he has voted repeatedly in ways that completely contradict the claims and promises made in his last election campaign, add this to the snoopers charter, the fox hunting and the sneaky dropping of support for the ban on importing ivory, I'm done.
Saw this a few days ago. fecking disgraceful.
 
On the fox-hunting issue, why would our Government even consider debating that yet again? It's done, it's banned and we have far more pressing things to talk about.
 
On the fox-hunting issue, why would our Government even consider debating that yet again? It's done, it's banned and we have far more pressing things to talk about.
They're trying to appeal to a certain demographic: gits.
 
It's about time a politician stood up and told the truth about our reckless foreign policy.

Sadly however, I don't think it will resonate well. I hope I'm wrong.

I'm pretty confident the Mail will have a field day with it. "Corbyn blames OUR troops".

Its a mistake people are in an emotive state and want blood. They don't want logic and anything that justifies evil.

He needs to come out strong against terrorism first and a small part of the message should be a review of foreign policy to prevent kicking the bees nest.