Two good purchases so far, to be fair. Plus they seem to be targeting areas that really do need strengthening - notably at full back and in goal. With that said, buying Walker and Mendy to replace Zabaleta and Clichy doesn't necessarily mean they're going to concede less goals. They'll be better going forward, sure, but defensively they'll still be vulnerable.
Manchester City 17/18 discussion | "If you're here for the Champions clap your hands" (#6505)
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Ederson is in Manchester having his medical. Good signing for City and a big improvement on Bravo and Caballero.
Interesting fact (one that shocked me actually) but only United and Spurs have better defensive records than City in 2017.
Yep. I think City need to keep that going and probably improve on that stat. Kompany's fitness is the major sticking point here; he's the glue that keeps the City back four together. Even if can't be relied upon then I think they need another central defender, too.
Maybe attack is the best form of defence for them? I don't think defence is really Pep's strength, and even in CL away ties when he chose to be a bit more pragmatic it often cost him. He's got enough firepower to outgun the rest of the league even in the big games, if they make these signings.
Big time, I think dropping the hologram plus Stones being taken out of the firing line was a big help too. But as you said Kompany is the key, people underestimate him because of his injuries. The problem is if they aren't behind him, next season will be a repeat.
I think Mourinho and Conte are too cunning for that to work in the big games. Against the rest of the league they can go full throttle, and they'll likely score a shit ton, but I don't think it's sustainable without having a solid defence to rely upon when Plan A isn't working.
So far, so good, don't get me wrong. But they'll get their arse bitten on more than one occasion if they don't make sure they're solid at the back.
Bravo to leave, then?
He'll stay, Caballero is gone. He'll be No.2 which is fine because that's how small kids refer to a shit "mommy, i need to go Claudio Bravo".
Do you think we'll knick Sanchez off you guys? or will your board cough up for himself and Ozil?
City might have stumbled across a new transfer tactic: fork out way more money than they are allowed to on players, in the process breaking rules regarding homegrown/british players/FFP, receive the 2 year transfer ban but be laughing the whole time as they've managed to condense 2 years worth of transfers into one window, stockpiling some of the best up and coming players in Europe, ensuring rivals don't get sniff.
Not that I'm envious or anything, you know. I love reading the same regurgitated tripe on Lindelof and Perisic. Stuff dreams are made of.
Not that I'm envious or anything, you know. I love reading the same regurgitated tripe on Lindelof and Perisic. Stuff dreams are made of.
Bravo say's he's staying, dunno if that'll be the case though.
Pep has a fantastic record against Jose for some reason, its weird because Jose seems to play the perfect way to stifle Pep teams bar maybe not using a high press.
City's next set of accounts will be funny, must be planning on some huge sponsorship deals given the amount of spending thats planned.
I suspect Europe's big clubs will be in contact over the summer, i can't imagine Barca, Real & Bayern been too happy with it.
I suspect Europe's big clubs will be in contact over the summer, i can't imagine Barca, Real & Bayern been too happy with it.
City are investing like crazy in the transfer market. Pep is a man on a mission to prove himself in the PL so they are being ruthless and splashing the cash. If they dont win the league/CL i'm pretty sure he'll get sacked before finishing his third year.
Reckon this window we'll recoup about £80 - £100m on the sales of
Bony - £12m
Nasri - £15m
Mangala - £15m
Hart £15m
Nolito - £10m
'Nacho £20m
Fernando £5m
Mooy £10m
dunno what will happen with the likes of Deneyer, Roberts, Zinchenko etc, if we sell a couple of the U23's we could scrape another £10m so net spend this Window may only be in the £120m area which is well within what's allowed, though tbh I've no idea what is allowed any more
The amount of fawning over City and their transfer plans on here and social media is sickening. No doubting they have made some and look to make more decent buys, but it's almost like whatever they do in the transfer market negates every other team in other people's minds.
Chelsea, us, Spurs and Liverpool will all strengthen. The rest of the league won't just lie down and give in to a foregone conclusion the media seem to be creating just because City have come out early as the Billy Big Bollox of the transfer window so far.
Not only were they crap in defense last season but there were times even with all the attacking talent they currently have they couldn't break teams down .
I just don't get the hoo ha- let's judge when everyone's transfer window is done.
Chelsea, us, Spurs and Liverpool will all strengthen. The rest of the league won't just lie down and give in to a foregone conclusion the media seem to be creating just because City have come out early as the Billy Big Bollox of the transfer window so far.
Not only were they crap in defense last season but there were times even with all the attacking talent they currently have they couldn't break teams down .
I just don't get the hoo ha- let's judge when everyone's transfer window is done.
Its all hypothetical atm we have spent just £43m and its been blown out of all proportion. If the best comes to the best and we get Ederson, Farbinho, Mendy and Walker and our total spending exceeds 200m, surely we'll bring in enough from
Hart, Mangala, Nasri, Fernando, Bony, Iheanacho, zucilini and possibly Denayer. Hart, Iheanacho and Nasri will bring in at least £50m combined. Theres got to be another 30 in Mangala, Fernando, Bony.
If he stays Yaya will be taking a 120k per week pay cut saving us another 6.5m. Also the new players will all be on lower wages now we don't have to overpay to attract players anymore. The days of us handing the Jesus Navas's of the world £90k per week are done. The players leaving on a free Zab's, Sagna, Clichy, Navas and Caballero is £400k a week wages, their younger replacement will be on less - Leroy Sane for example is on £55k as opposed to Navas £90k or Nasri's £120k.
To have any issue with FFP we'd probably have to go well over £300m this summer.
Roberts alone will go for more than £15m after the season he's had. Hope he stays though.
Out of interest, who are the homegrown players going to be in the City squad next season? I'm sure you'll have enough but will you need to be picking up British talent essentially for the sake of having more British players as was the case with Delph? Hart will almost certainly leave and I think Clichy qualified as homegrown but he's left. Walker will almost certainly arrive for you, but will that be it?
Also, with the amount of money having been pumped into your academy for the best part of a decade, and then you bringing in a manager with (at Barcelona at least) a phenomenal record with bringing through youth prospects, do you think the signings you're going for suggests that Pep and the club in general are not happy with the results of your youth teams?
Well I thought your youth team would get a bit more of a look in. If he is bringing in a good few players this season that is less likely to happen. I thought your elite development squad or whatever it is called was specifically for Pep to use.
Other than that I thought he would win something this year. I don't have any problem with him spending money to build his team up but I didn't really understand the idea that Man city had taken different steps to build for Pep than what any team would do in general.
What I mean is you said they have been building everywhere bar the first team. Have they built anything specifically for when Pep showed up?
Your estimations are way off. No way you get £67 Mill for the first 5 alone.
Bony has been unable to force his way into a struggling Stoke team. Mangala has vanished from the face of the earth in much the same way as he vanished from your defensive line when he played. These 2 will be on continuous loans until their contracts run out. Nasri will go on a nominal fee if you can get his destination club to match his wages. Nolito will be let go on a free. He's on big wages but no way he gets any playing time under Pep. Hart is coming off a poor season & his confidence seems shot, not a good trait in a GK. May get interest from a bottom half PL team. You will again only recoup a nominal fee as the clubs who go in for him won't be able to match his current wage.
Apparently they want and are confident of getting Sanchez, how do you fit Sterling, Silva, B.Silva, De Bruyne, Jesus, Aguero into a line up?
Also why when City spend loads is the media in awe but when its United..
Also why when City spend loads is the media in awe but when its United..
Sane too
You don't, I can't see Sanchez going and Aguero staying.
City & United both have the same issue when moving players on in that their on far too much money and clubs will only buy those players if they get a reduced transfer fee given they'll have to match wages.
It makes no difference, really. The new sponsorship deal from Abu Dhabi Swanky Shoes or Dubai Fancy Burkas will take care of that.
It's been holding City back for a few seasons now, but we almost have a clean break with all of the contracts coming up this summer, and a bunch of high earners being released. If we fill those gaps appropriately we suddenly have a very lean squad again. It's all part of the cycle I guess.
Agreed.
Is yaya staying on for another year you think?
Excuse me?
and when will he admit he's singed another clown in goal?
You missed the decimal point between the 1 and 5 in Hart's valuation.
Holding you back how? You spent over £400m in the last three years with a net spend at around £300m.
So what's this Ederson guy like? Can't say i've watched much Portuguese league games this year, as the last one I watched (Lisbon derby) nearly sent me to sleep.
He's a big upgrade (which isn't hard since their options were terrible) however he's not near the level of DDG or Oblak.
Fair point so did I tbh I didn't expect alot to play but I thought Garcia, Maffeo and Iheanacho would get more time than they did and maybe Adarabioyo would get a game or two. Only a handful each but I was disappointed with their game time.
This. 1000%, he's a good young keeper, how good he can be is anyones guess but he'll be behind Courtois, Lloris, Cech and DDG (if he stays) for certain in the prem. He's a good signing but to be honest he's Jack Butland level for me with higher potential.