ThierryHenry
wishes he could watch Arsenal games with KM
Jippy's mate in the main article on the Beeb. Sounds like a good guy.
There have been mass complaints about Al Muhajiroon and their different guises from Muslims over many years. We've had threads in the CE forum where I and others were ranting about this group. I had an altercation with one their members on Tottenham Court Rd whilst he was distributing leaflets many years back and was threatened by him verbally. Unfortunately, they have always stayed on the right side of the law and used UK's liberal values to their advantage in avoiding arrest.
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That Twitter account is an excellent narrative of the issues Muslims encountered when complaining about the group. When so many complaints from all angles were not heeded it got to the point where conspiracies began to circle. Many felt the government, media and the police were giving tacit encouragement to this group to give Muslims bad press.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40168526
As far as I'm concerned, anyone waving an IS flag is dangerous. That should be all that is necessary to take action. No peaceful person would do such a thing.
This is good. Hopefully this sentiment will catch on.
Also, hopefully this is very publicized to answer those who always ask "but what are mainstream Muslims doing...?"
And prior to the Nazis, the swastika wasn't a symbol of hate, but I'd still consider anyone waving a Nazi flag dangerous.The thing is that flag was considered the flag of Islam prior to ISIS so in itself it doesn't merely represent ISIS. Islamic groups like Al-Mahajaroon and HT were donning the flag prior to ISIS existence.
It's getting to the point where I'm asking that why isn't everyone else doing as much as the UK Muslim community to stop this form of terrorism?Close
That Twitter account is an excellent narrative of the issues Muslims encountered when complaining about the group. When so many complaints from all angles were not heeded it got to the point where conspiracies began to circle. Many felt the government, media and the police were giving tacit encouragement to this group to give Muslims bad press.
The thing is that flag was considered the flag of Islam prior to ISIS so in itself it doesn't merely represent ISIS. Islamic groups like Al-Mahajaroon and HT were donning the flag prior to ISIS existence.
That is close to where i live - worrying but it smells a bit fishy.Nursery worker stabbed in Wanstead by three women 'who chanted Allah, Allah'
http://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/new...n-who-chanted-allah-allah-1-5051994-1-5051994
Gangs, seizing upon the Islamist angle as an additional fear tactic?
quickly dusted. Very good.
You can make an argument that it is disrespectful given that a minute's silence was held, and it could be easily honoured, but we are back to the whole do Western countries honour any attack in the ME region? If England were playing the US and there had been an explosion a week before in Iraq, there wouldn't likely be a minutes silence....
Had they been playing England, I reckon they would have honoured it, but a match between Aus and Saudi has little / no direct reference to London.
You can make an argument that it is disrespectful given that a minute's silence was held, and it could be easily honoured, but we are back to the whole do Western countries honour any attack in the ME region? If England were playing the US and there had been an explosion a week before in Iraq, there wouldn't likely be a minutes silence....
Had they been playing England, I reckon they would have honoured it, but a match between Aus and Saudi has little / no direct reference to London.
But there was a minute silence. And they showed complete disrespect. Could they have not stayed on the sidelines and respected what was happening? Could they have not joined in anyway? And there is a direct reference, since Australians were caught up in what happened in London.
No excuses.
Agree it is disrespectful and apologies, I had forgotten that a couple of Australian ladies were killed in London - hadn't realised that link when I posted.
Not trying to make excuses for their behaviour either.
My apologies, I wasn't suggesting you were making excuses, more that there are none. No doubt they'll have some, but after all the good stuff @Sultan has shown us lately, this sort of thing will once again bring negativity.
I'm actually intrigued as to the real reason why they didn't honour it.
Isnt it obvious? The Imam above said it.
'They did not stop for a moment of silence because according to Wahhabi Islam - which governs Saudi Arabia - it is not wrong or a sin for a Muslim to kill a non-Muslim. In their eyes the attackers are martyrs who are going to paradise.
'If they stand for a minute of silence, they are against their Muslim brothers who fought for jihad and fought the “infidels”.
Isnt it obvious? The Imam above said it.
'They did not stop for a moment of silence because according to Wahhabi Islam - which governs Saudi Arabia - it is not wrong or a sin for a Muslim to kill a non-Muslim. In their eyes the attackers are martyrs who are going to paradise.
'If they stand for a minute of silence, they are against their Muslim brothers who fought for jihad and fought the “infidels”.
I agree.So much for respecting other people's cultures then. It's a bit archaic to show disrespect just because they don't do minutes silences themselves.
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