General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Would be a vast improvement on Corbyn and May.
Should have taken mine to the polling station earlier but she's on holiday!
Is this a time to mention Cinas Mum?
Setting myself up for a Tory win. This will not be good news for the country but it will in the long run be very damaging to the conservatives. Just hope we get a much better than expected result and grow from there .Because no doubt there will be a lot of anger with this current government in the coming years.
Is it ever not?
Glenrothes, it's a shame because I miss the alien abductions that used to happen on top of the old Tesco car park near where I used to live and now have to settle for a constituency that contains more roundabouts than people.
True enough, but I also don't really want to vote SNP for what they've done to colleges and schools in this country. For all their positives, education is certainly not one of them. I'm probably going to be voting for the person not the party this election.
They'll just find another distraction, and the press will back them up with it. Five years from now they'll be re-elected on a platform to stop Russian hackers from taking away our Facebooks and Twitterings.
Wonder what the outcome will be, as if we didn't already know, of the next instalment in the UK of "Turkeys voting for Xmas".
This is pretty much what I'm hoping for - a best case scenario of a narrow Tory majority, followed by years of utter disarray within the Tory party leading to permanent damage within the party ranks.
The trouble is the country will pay a price for it too.
Ah the Milton Keynes of the north.
Think I'm going to be reading up on emotion-based voting after tonight.
whats emotion based voting and how is is it effecting this election?
The press will forgive anything the Tories do for dropping Leveson and this country will have given 'feck the vulnerable, I'm alright' their seal of approval twice in the space of a few years, having bought the 'Johnny Foreigner' EU lies in between. I wouldn't be holding your breath for anything after the first sentence of this.
People voting emotionally - ie, voting because of a person instead of policies, and perhaps for how something makes them feel as opposed to how it'll genuinely affect them.
Yeah pretty much that, the Leave campaign used it to strong effect during the referendum (Farage in the most grotesque of ways) and Corbyn achieves similar (though the effect differs across the age spectrum it seems). It's a powerful driver by the looks of it.
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https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/politics/2944732-Genuine-question-for-Tory-voters?pg=4
hmm.. not feeling good now.
hmm.. not feeling good now.
Just saw this 
Just saw this
Their poor kids. Oh well.
The turnout will be interesting
Will those lazy lefties get out of bed?
Will those lazy lefties get out of bed?
There wouldn't have been a vote if they hadn't called the referendum.
Mumsnet is very left wing. You get quite a few trollers on there.
https://www.tactical2017.com/#Barking
PS anyone who doesn't know which way to vote re: those scottish voters, try and use this.
PS anyone who doesn't know which way to vote re: those scottish voters, try and use this.
Are you sure, been through quite a few threads and seems to have a strong tory contingent as well.
For all the talk about young voters, for me the female vote is massive as they're usually more floaty and can lean either way whereas men tend to be pretty forthright in their views and stick to them.
But you don't apply that same expectation to the EU/Germany? It's as if people have forgotten past negotiations with Brussels, or believe it to be some cuddly and totally reasonable organisation. Even as far back as her first conference speech the PM left the door open for future UK contributions; a move which was met with a demand for a large cash sum, to be paid all at once.
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To be honest regarding the deal your guess is as good as mine. I'm purely basing it on personalities. If work in commercial finance and I would negotiate with Corbyn all day long till I got the deal I wanted. May would probably annoy me and eventually I'd save the fight for another day, i.e. Backdown a little bit.
It might be an absurd simplified view, but let's be honest what else do we have to go on.
This is one area of the voting that comes down to a punt. There is no firm logic.
Whereas I've studied enough Economics and worked long enough in Finance to understand the difference between marketing and reality when it comes to what can and can't be achieved by a government and their policies.
Labour take an economic model that ignores free movement and tax evasion and assume therefore near perfect gains to every policy. They also seemingly ignore the cost of interest and value everything today as worth infinitely more than the future. Great marketing tools, but doomed to fail.
It's hilarious isn't it? Though saying that, it pales into comparison of May triggering an election, then screaming that we can't run the risk of Corbyn in charge of Brexit and that she can't be distracted away from the negotiations.
As an aside - if you're threatening not to vote again because your ideal candidate might not be around next time, this may be why for the most part your ideal candidate doesn't get in a position to win. If you aren't a regular at polling booths, the major parties will continue ignoring you.
That's why I hope we at least get a hung parliament.
"They're having a proper scrap!"
I'm no East End 'ardman but it was all very handbags. Hopefully the Liberal Democrats put up a better fight.
LIB DEM MANIA ERUPTS ON POLLING DAY
Not been to vote yet. I'm leaning toward the local Conservative MP but could be persuaded to vote Lib Dem if i knew it wouldn't hand the seat to Labour.
Wouldn't mind having the ability send part of my vote to another constituency though.
Wouldn't mind having the ability send part of my vote to another constituency though.
This was a gamble on May's part. The European conversations were clearly challenging and the momentum seemed to be behind Labour so she figured now would be a good time to cement here position in the strongest possible way. Reality frustratingly is many of our population are too stupid to understand this and having voted Brexit are now trying to damage our outcome by voting Labour.
Of all the elections to make this point, you choose this one? When a twice elected leader doesn't have even slight backing from massive numbers of his own party?
Pssst. The EU don't give a feck how many MPs the arms dealing vicar's daughter has. You'll note they didn't wait until Friday to hold their meeting to agree on their stance, they did it weeks ago. The only person 'damaging the outcome' is her, by your logic, by even giving people the chance to have someone else in charge of the process.
Its strange, a lot of people I know have gotten more right wing as they have gotten older, Ive gone the other way
Same here. Used to be consistent Tory voter, these days I'm practically ready to join a people's front movement with Che Guevara and Karl Marx.
Nick, I will forever struggle to work out how you decide on your vote
Truth is a stranger to Brexiteers