Barcelona 2017/18

De Portago said:
As someone already mentioned above, Barcelona actually took four out of six available points in the Classico sweepstakes. Basing the preparedness of the team on the friendlies is just daft in my opinion.
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Precisely, that and just a little honest refereeing and La Liga would have been Barcelona's as well. The idea that Zizou is being compared to Pep is ridiculous, no one will ever remember the sort of football his teams played


Schneckerl said:
As it stands Barcelona has the worst squad in years and the future doesn't look bright either.

Their supporters seem to be in denial about that. A lot still think Iniesta - who's barely playing half the games - is a world class performer in the next season. Their other core players aren't getting any younger either.
Messi won them a lot of games last year, this one will be even more dependant on him. Mind you I believe if they manage to hit top form at the right they could very well win trophies.

Just a warning to all the Barca fans - NEVER assume you will be great forever just because you were for the past decade. This seems to be the basis for their 'everything will be fine' stance - something which came back to bite several of dominant clubs.
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Another season, another gloom & doom assessment - Keep writing your epitaphs
 
The good news is people will actually see how much of a difference there is between Barca and Madrid later this week.
 
FCBarca said:
Precisely, that and just a little honest refereeing and La Liga would have been Barcelona's as well.
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Funnily enough, i agree with this statement. Refs really did screw barcelona out of the title last season

Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 said:
Based on Real's performance today, Barca are far behind them. They do need WC signings to compete with them.
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Really? We didn't look that impressive to me. Fully expect the supercup will be very close. They might win it, in fact
 
Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 said:
Based on Real's performance today, Barca are far behind them. They do need WC signings to compete with them.
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How exactly are they far behind them? Very strange choice of words. They finsihed 3 points behind them last season with a better head to head in LaLiga.

Barcelona do not need 'world class' signings, whatever that means.

The need to go back to the Barcelona base and nd buy players with the particular skill set to play in it.
 
BluesJr said:
Dembele, depressingly. Should have been our priority signing this summer and if we had courted him all season and sweetened the deal with his agent way in advance it might have happened.
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Hum. Barcelona is really his Dream club and Messi his favorite player. He publicly told his dream is to join FCB but opted for Dortmund to make sure he will play a lot.

M'bappé has a slight preference for Real Madrid and Cr7 (he met Cr7 in real life when he was 14).

The issue isn't to convince Dembélé but rather Dortmund IMO
 
I have nothing against them, but they are in a proper panic mode aren't they? Every man and his dog now getting linked with them as teams stand their ground firm. PSG done them royally it seems.
 
Rajma said:
I have nothing against them, but they are in a proper panic mode aren't they? Every man and his dog now getting linked with them as teams stand their ground firm. PSG done them royally it seems.
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It seems so right now. However, everything will be confirmed or infirmed on the field. Team under Valverde is now looking to play better than under Lucho, with Neymar or without him. The issue is Barca had huge tactical problems under Luis Enrique. Fix those, and the team can play better than last season even if the squad is weaker.

A win against Madrid in the next Clasico will settle things down I believe.
 
FCBarca said:
Another season, another gloom & doom assessment - Keep writing your epitaphs
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Ah yes that's exactly it. Remember all the other seasons where their 2nd best player left and their core players turned thirty.

Transfer targets look promising, but that's just the start and they need to keep on looking for replacments in the next few years.
 
kouroux said:
Before selling Neymar and receiving that huge money, they should nailed on CM signing already. Their midfield lacks depth and quality.
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Players matter little if there is no actual system. Put Verratti in Enriques system and he would make little difference.
 
Scarecrow said:
That's hardly a reason not to sign players though.
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They don't need to if they have the right system. Their Personnel atm are not bad, they just need to be coached properly tbh and they need to figure out what to do with Messi's position. Either make him a false 9 or switch to 3 at the back because this false lw role he has atm disrupts the teams structure as someone pointed out earlier iirc.
 
gibers said:
Players matter little if there is no actual system. Put Verratti in Enriques system and he would make little difference.
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That makes no sense whatsoever :lol:. Any good midfielder would help them.
gibers said:
They don't need to if they have the right system. Their Personnel atm are not bad, they just need to be coached properly tbh and they need to figure out what to do with Messi's position. Either make him a false 9 or switch to 3 at the back because this false lw role he has atm disrupts the teams structure as someone pointed out earlier iirc.
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Their personel is bad at the moment. Rakitic past his best, Busquets past his best, Iniesta old, André Gomes is shit.
 
kouroux said:
That makes no sense whatsoever :lol:. Any good midfielder would help them.

Their personel is bad at the moment. Rakitic past his best, Busquets past his best, Iniesta old, André Gomes is shit.
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So what good would Veratti have been if he is far away from the box, hanging out in the channels and acting as a cover to the full backs? Messi was dropping so deep because he couldn't get a clean ball. Busquets and Iniesta were called poor precisely because of the system that Enrique used and Veratti won't have made a big a difference as he isn't athletic and can't cover much space, the same problem Inesta and Busquets happened to have and the only thing Rakitic was great at and that declined.

Rakitic was never a 'Barcelona' Mfer for me, at least not if they stuck to their philosophy, great work horse but he isn't particularly great at the ball and supporting temmates in buidl up.

Busquets isn't past it, Iniesta isn't past it, the lines are bigger which means they have to cover too much ground and that is not their strengths. If they wanted to play that way a player like Kante would have been a better fit for Enrique in his quick transition system that bypasses the mf. You can't ask them to do thngs they were never good at and when they fail you say they are past it. Makes no sense.
 
gibers said:
So what good would Veratti have been if he is far away from the box, hanging out in the channels and acting as a cover to the full backs? Messi was dropping so deep because he couldn't get a clean ball. Busquets and Iniesta were called poor precisely because of the system that Enrique used and Veratti won't have made a big a difference as he isn't athletic and can't cover much space, the same problem Inesta and Busquets happened to have and the only thing Rakitic was great at and that declined.

Rakitic was never a 'Barcelona' Mfer for me, at least not if they stuck to their philosophy, great work horse but he isn't particularly great at the ball and supporting temmates in buidl up.

Busquets isn't past it, Iniesta isn't past it, the lines are bigger which means they have to cover too much ground and that is not their strengths. If they wanted to play that way a player like Kante would have been a better fit for Enrique in his quick transition system that bypasses the mf. You can't ask them to do thngs they were never good at and when they fail you say they are past it. Makes no sense.
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The system is one thing and it could only take you so far, better players give you the chance of improving the system. Iniesta is definitely past it, if you cannot see that then really I'm sorry. I can agree that there is big hope for Busquets yet because he has age on his side. Compare Rakitic's performance during their treble season and last season to see that he's no longer that player anymore and it was still the same coach with mostly the same tactic (oriented on the front 3 to do most damage and the midfield to try to cover all the remaining gaps).
 
FCBarca said:
Precisely, that and just a little honest refereeing and La Liga would have been Barcelona's as well. The idea that Zizou is being compared to Pep is ridiculous, no one will ever remember the sort of football his teams played
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Of course it's ridiculous. One is a doper who used nandrolone to make him a better player and the other is a legend of the game. Putting those two in the same sentence is quite disrespectful to Zidane.
 
gaucho_10 said:
Of course it's ridiculous. One is a doper who used nandrolone to make him a better player and the other is a legend of the game. Putting those two in the same sentence is quite disrespectful to Zidane.
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Didn't Zidane admit to using creatine at Juventus?
 
How will nobody remember the manager whose team was the first ever to retain the CL?
 
gaucho_10 said:
Of course it's ridiculous. One is a doper who used nandrolone to make him a better player and the other is a legend of the game. Putting those two in the same sentence is quite disrespectful to Zidane.
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Juventus doped in the 1996 CL final and the Dr that got convicted just got rehired by them.
 
Jazz said:
Didn't Zidane admit to using creatine at Juventus?
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You're right, he did and he admitted that compared to Pep who claimed his nandrolone levels were natural (which is scientifically impossible). Just shows what kind of characters those two are. Completely different.

Anyway, I'm just messing with him and his idiotic comments about how everyone will remember Pep and no one will care about Zidane who managed the impossible in one and a half years as a manager.

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I think we will win CL again this season (just as I thought last season). It will be tougher but it will happen because everyone and the world is against this team and they keep bringing their achievements down by inventing selective arguments. Call it cosmic justice if you will, or call me a weirdo by thinking that..
 
gibers said:
Juventus doped in the 1996 CL final and the Dr that got convicted just got rehired by them.
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Guardiola hired doctor Ramon Segura to be head doctor at Barcelona during his reign there. He was also the doctor at Brescia back in the days when Guardiola was involved in the nandrolone scandal.
 
gaucho_10 said:
You're right, he did and he admitted that compared to Pep who claimed his nandrolone levels were natural (which is scientifically impossible). Just shows what kind of characters those two are. Completely different.

Anyway, I'm just messing with him and his idiotic comments about how everyone will remember Pep and no one will care about Zidane who managed the impossible in one and a half years as a manager.

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I think we will win CL again this season (just as I thought last season). It will be tougher but it will happen because everyone and the world is against this team and they keep bringing their achievements down by inventing selective arguments. Call it cosmic justice if you will, or call me a weirdo by thinking that..
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Wait, that was a serious comment @Jazz ? I thought he was taking the piss. Creatine is as much a PED as multivitamins. You can't compare it to nandrolone.
 
Jazz said:
Didn't Zidane admit to using creatine at Juventus?
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He admits he believes he did. Football players aren't doctors, and even less so back then. If their doctor gave them pills to take, they tended to take them no questions asked. Agricola was doping the players without the players knowledge
 
Barca signing Paulinho based on his international form. Might as well hire the man responsible in Tite because I don't see how this move works.
 
Barcelona could not find for 37 million, a player better than Paulinho in all the top leagues of Europe?
 
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