Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic

Barkley hasn't screwed them over. There's no reason he should be forced to move to Chelsea of he doesn't want to.

Exactly so.

Everton screwed themselves over by refusing to negotiate with the only club - Spurs - that Barkley wanted to go to. They tried to bounce Barkley into the Chelsea deal and it back-fired.

So now, instead of having the money they could have gotten from Levy, they'll end up with either less money (this January) or nothing or at all (next summer) ... and either way Barkley will likely end up at Spurs. And in the meantime they're still having to pay his wages, even tho' he won't be fit to play until December.
 
Well they certainly dont view it that way.

They lost out on 35mil pounds, even in this age, thats a lot of money. He could possibly go on a free now. He is perfectly entitled to do that, but it does screw over Everton in that they are not compensated for his development.

The word "screwed" suggests or implies wrongdoing on the partof Barkley when it's not his fault at all. Or anyone's fault for that matter. Same with Cleverley.

Fryers on the other hand....
 
I have no sympathy with clubs on this kind of thing. They have the player under contract and often hold on to them when they want to leave so this is the natural result of that. They've brought in a player (or players) who they prefer and that's their prerogative. Clubs are quick to try and move players on when they feel like it.
I completely agree about the hypocrisy of football clubs and fans in general.

He is perfectly entitled to run down his contract. My point was that Everton will certainly feel aggrieved. Unless he signs a new deal like Gundogan did at Dortmund.
 
The word "screwed" suggests or implies wrongdoing on the partof Barkley when it's not his fault at all. Or anyone's fault for that matter. Same with Cleverley.

Fryers on the other hand....

Still posses of about that. And the lack of action by any authorities.

If United had done that a smaller club (even Spurs for exsmple) everyone would have been up in arms.

With this new market, I think we can expect a lot of players running down their contracts. It will add an interesting dynamic to the market.
 
PSG will hand UEFA a bulging brown envelope and the investigation will be closed.
That isn't what happened last time they breached it and they were warned they would be expelled from the CL if they didn't buck up so if i were PSG I'd be sweating right about now.
 
That isn't what happened last time they breached it and they were warned they would be expelled from the CL if they didn't buck up so if i were PSG I'd be sweating right about now.

Ye of little faith. City and PSG's owners game UEFA like little punks. A £500 Million sponsorship from Cat Harry Cat Food coming down the line for PSG soon.
 
Ye of little faith. City and PSG's owners game UEFA like little punks. A £500 Million sponsorship from Cat Harry Cat Food coming down the line for PSG soon.
Maybe but they will investigate any suspicious sponsorship as they did with City to make sure here Ethidad Airways sponosrship represented real value. PSG will have to play smart.
 
I completely agree about the hypocrisy of football clubs and fans in general.

He is perfectly entitled to run down his contract. My point was that Everton will certainly feel aggrieved. Unless he signs a new deal like Gundogan did at Dortmund.

I'm sure they do from a financial perspective, but if you view the players as an asset then you can't fault a player who views himself in the same way. A few years ago he was a player they wanted to build a team around - or at least develop into a player who they could sell on for big money. A few problems, he drifts down the pecking order and they're newly cash rich with a new owner and all of a sudden he's dispensable and they want to cash in.

To be fair to him, he seems to want to move for the right reasons - that is he feels he'll develop as a player better elsewhere. He seemingly wanted to go to Spurs and when that didn't come up he decided to see what happens rather than take a move somewhere he didn't want to go and where he perhaps thought he'd be in the same position he's in now sat on the bench.

I certainly wouldn't feel any guilt if I were him, and I'm sure Everton would happily take advantage of the situation if a player wanted to move there on a free after running down is contract.
 
I'm sure they do from a financial perspective, but if you view the players as an asset then you can't fault a player who views himself in the same way. A few years ago he was a player they wanted to build a team around - or at least develop into a player who they could sell on for big money. A few problems, he drifts down the pecking order and they're newly cash rich with a new owner and all of a sudden he's dispensable and they want to cash in.

To be fair to him, he seems to want to move for the right reasons - that is he feels he'll develop as a player better elsewhere. He seemingly wanted to go to Spurs and when that didn't come up he decided to see what happens rather than take a move somewhere he didn't want to go and where he perhaps thought he'd be in the same position he's in now sat on the bench.

I certainly wouldn't feel any guilt if I were him, and I'm sure Everton would happily take advantage of the situation if a player wanted to move there on a free after running down is contract.
Fair enough.

But the fans wont see it that way.

The Everton forums are baying for blood.
 
Fair enough.

But the fans wont see it that way.

The Everton forums are baying for blood.

That's the fickleness and general stupidity of fans.

I wonder how many of them would move to another job miles away where they didn't particularly want to go to keep their current employer happy.

And if the above is right, and he didn't have a medical at all and simply turned the move down then the owner should be asked why he said that if it isn't true.
 
I think the running joke about Pep 'the genius' is largely unfair on him and is very much taken out of context. When people often joke about what they perceive that genius to mean, it's usually in relation to his overall ability to win and succeed, regardless of club stature or circumstance.

The actual root of it is in reference to his insight, tactically as well as individually. Whether at Barcelona, Bayern, or Man City, there are numerous quotes from top professionals, all of whom have trained under the worlds elite at different clubs, whom have stated at various times how Guardiola taught them insights, which improved them, tactically and mentally, which they weren't learning prior. That's all. He's just a progressive, forward-thinking coach who does have some unique input. If this weren't true these quotes wouldn't exist. That they do is at least indicative of his level of footballing insight.

Again, the label genius, however exaggerated, isn't associated specifically with regards to success and points, it's in relation to his insight, corporately and individually. When players praised him for these insights, it wasn't to make a point about how many points the team was winning, but how much insight the player was learning.


Aaaah, so that's it. Insight eh?

Bit like 'Arry Redknapp then.
 
The fact he would cost significantly less gives Arsenal more reason to not bother selling him. May as well just keep him for the remaining 4 months and let him go on a free.