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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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I suspect the majority of remoaners probably do want that outcome, they just pretend to 'not see'

What they don't seem to grasp is that unless Britain dumps the pound Sterling and becomes part of the euro-zone countries (24 countries) within the EU, if we stay in the club we will constantly go where we are pushed inside the EU, perpetual second division status, no chance of promotion.

I think there are a small group of other countries within the EU, Denmark's one, who still retain their own currency outside the Euro zone, but the size of their markets are low compared to Britain's.

If we wanted to be a lead player in the EU we should have dumped the pound and become part of the euro-zone, years ago, but now the euro takes its value from the German economy's influence in the EU, all EU economic decisions in the future will be taken on how it affects the euro, not the pound, so we are sat waiting for the scraps from the table. Macron in France is desperate for further integration because he has to make the French economy work properly and he needs Mrs Merkel's help.

The majority of people in this country might want to be part of a common market yes, but not on track towards a super state, unfortunately the EU won't accept that premise, so its a parting of the waves. Amicably if possible, but that doesn't look on now, so lets get out now, and no tipping the waiter!

Who's been telling you porkies this time, is it Farage, Johnson, Daily Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph, Metro, Star , wow, forgotten how many RW newspapers there are.
 
Who's been telling you porkies this time, is it Farage, Johnson, Daily Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph, Metro, Star , wow, forgotten how many RW newspapers there are.

Hi Paul, yes of course we're all out of step except you, brilliant, 'worth the entrance fee alone', as someone once said about George Best
 
Anyone who disagrees with you... think you mentioned a few yourself including national papers

All except me seems to suggest everyone apart from me. I think you may find that a very small part of those who voted to leave belong to the tin foil hat brigade , think the main reason was a bit more sinister.
 
I think you may find that a very small part of those who voted to leave belong to the tin foil hat brigade ,

And a very large number of these tin-foil hat wearers also voted to remain, not because they agreed with you, but because they thought the scenario the chancellor conjured up, the 'plagues of locust' and the 'sacrifice of the first born', etc. would take place on the 24th June, but some enterprising ones even had their cameras out ready to get the first selfies!:lol:
 
There's no evidence to suggest that leaving the EU will end in recession. Recessions are a part of life, and the economical cycle. If you want to blame the next one on brexit, fine.

Even the editor of the Leave campaign website now admits that the current process will lead to recession and possibly a depression.
 
And a very large number of these tin-foil hat wearers also voted to remain, not because they agreed with you, but because they thought the scenario the chancellor conjured up, the 'plagues of locust' and the 'sacrifice of the first born', etc. would take place on the 24th June, but some enterprising ones even had their cameras out ready to get the first selfies!:lol:

Sounds very likely but no-one on here said that - just the gradual economic collapse which inevitably will happen with no deal - anyway seems Tusk has urged the UK to get a move on or if there are no advances in the talks by the end of the year the EU will also start also envisaging a no deal scenario and plan in that sense in the New Year even though the UK are said to be already planning that way.

Apparently there are no discussions tomorrow as the UK team seem to be unavailable, perhaps Vidic should ask them to get a move on. Tick tock - only two more sessions after Thursday this year.
 
if there are no advances in the talks by the end of the year the EU will also start also envisaging a no deal scenario and plan in that sense in the New Year even though the UK are said to be already planning that way.

Tusk's first plan will be to figure out how to fill the hole in EU current budgets up to 2020, i.e. no deal no payments, remember nothings agreed until every thing is agreed. Just to be awkward if it were me I would also say we are not even going to pay next years contribution, what will they do then... threaten to throw us out of the EU?

You would think the EU would want to 'string us' along, at least until we had coughed up the current budget contributions, but looks like Theresa's using the strategy that Henry Kissinger once espoused (or he supposedly attributed it to the Chinese approach) in tough negotiations give in on the first point, then hold firm on everything else.
 
Tusk's first plan will be to figure out how to fill the hole in EU current budgets up to 2020, i.e. no deal no payments, remember nothings agreed until every thing is agreed. Just to be awkward if it were me I would also say we are not even going to pay next years contribution, what will they do then... threaten to throw us out of the EU?

You would think the EU would want to 'string us' along, at least until we had coughed up the current budget contributions, but looks like Theresa's using the strategy that Henry Kissinger once espoused (or he supposedly attributed it to the Chinese approach) in tough negotiations give in on the first point, then hold firm on everything else.

This is exactly why no-one trusts the UK - this is exactly why you wouldn't trust the Uk courts to handle disputes - the whole world is looking at the UK and if they behaved like this getting deals with anyone will be very difficult let alone the EU. But £10bn is not going to really trouble the EU is it - being cast off into the wilderness might have some downside for the UK
 
Tusk's first plan will be to figure out how to fill the hole in EU current budgets up to 2020, i.e. no deal no payments, remember nothings agreed until every thing is agreed. Just to be awkward if it were me I would also say we are not even going to pay next years contribution, what will they do then... threaten to throw us out of the EU?

You would think the EU would want to 'string us' along, at least until we had coughed up the current budget contributions, but looks like Theresa's using the strategy that Henry Kissinger once espoused (or he supposedly attributed it to the Chinese approach) in tough negotiations give in on the first point, then hold firm on everything else.

You're still fantasizing about the myth that they need us more than we need them. Yes, if we withheld payments while still within the EU they certainly could vote to either eject us or at least make life unbearably difficult by locking down customs borders triggering an economic collapse in the U.K. The fact you ever suggest it shows just how little grasp you have of the elements in play.
 
May's only chance of redeeming her legacy is to succeed in making such a pigs ear of Brexit that it becomes toxic and any successor has little/no choice but to withdraw the invoking of Art. 50.
 
You're still fantasizing about the myth that they need us more than we need them. Yes, if we withheld payments while still within the EU they certainly could vote to either eject us or at least make life unbearably difficult by locking down customs borders triggering an economic collapse in the U.K. The fact you ever suggest it shows just how little grasp you have of the elements in play.

It's not that they don't understand, it's that they don't care. Typical of the 'I've got mine, now to pull the ladder up' mentality of the Brexit brigade. The collapse of the UK economy doesn't matter if you're retired, paid off your 2x salary mortgage already etc.

It's the next generation that they're gleefully sinking the knife into.
 
No and the weathers' been rubbish last few days


Terrific here - spent the past two weeks on the beach with the exception of last Thursday and even been swimming this afternoon.

Who cares about BREXIT anyway when we 're enjoying an Indian Summer.

But back to the Dark Continent again on Thursday, although also for a holiday this time, in Namibia, after the regulation couple of weeks in Lagos, Port Harcourt and Luanda.
 
Terrific here - spent the past two weeks on the beach with the exception of last Thursday and even been swimming this afternoon.

Who cares about BREXIT anyway when we 're enjoying an Indian Summer.

But back to the Dark Continent again on Thursday, although also for a holiday this time, in Namibia, after the regulation couple of weeks in Lagos, Port Harcourt and Luanda.

Our nice weather is due to return tomorrow, two weeks of sun and warmth forecast so I'll be out on my bike (cycle) every day - enjoy Africa - I don't miss it.
 
Our nice weather is due to return tomorrow, two weeks of sun and warmth forecast so I'll be out on my bike (cycle) every day - enjoy Africa - I don't miss it.


Neither do I....

Although Luanda is actually quite good fun - plenty of hard partying Cubans and Brazilians in the bars at night, and crazy Kazaks who can't speak a word of English or Portuguese and so make the airspace around Angola feel like you're playing Russian Roulette, but make up for it with endless bottles of wodka....But it's almost certainly the most expensiveplace I've ever worked - a good pizza and a pint of Sagres sets us back about $ 85.

Nigeria, on the other hand....

Happiness is V1 at Lagos.....
 
The longer she can string this out the better it is for her.

Nah, she knows her legacy is shattered, she holds on in the hope something will come along to rescue her name.

For the Brexiters she's a human shield, they know Brexit will be shit, they will dump her once the deal is done and blame her for the outcome
 
Neither do I....

Although Luanda is actually quite good fun - plenty of hard partying Cubans and Brazilians in the bars at night, and crazy Kazaks who can't speak a word of English or Portuguese and so make the airspace around Angola feel like you're playing Russian Roulette, but make up for it with endless bottles of wodka....But it's almost certainly the most expensiveplace I've ever worked - a good pizza and a pint of Sagres sets us back about $ 85.

Nigeria, on the other hand....

Happiness is V1 at Lagos.....

$85?!?!?!!
 
This woman is going to force an exodus of EU labour and it won't be just the low-skilled ones. How is it so difficult to provide some reassurance after a year of 'thinking about it'. Gutless and clueless.
 
Nah, she knows her legacy is shattered, she holds on in the hope something will come along to rescue her name.

For the Brexiters she's a human shield, they know Brexit will be shit, they will dump her once the deal is done and blame her for the outcome

Yes, that's what I meant, for sure she's gone after the outcome is known but the longer it takes to come to an agreement, the longer she gets to stay in power, even if it's only a few months more.
 
This woman is going to force an exodus of EU labour and it won't be just the low-skilled ones. How is it so difficult to provide some reassurance after a year of 'thinking about it'. Gutless and clueless.

I heard a snippet of her radio appearance - when she was asked , why can't you give an outright reassurance to all EU citizens that they can stay with or without a deal - she replies "I'm going to get a bit technical here" - Maybot speak for "they're pawns"
 
Out of interest how many of the pro out people on here actually live in the UK ?
 
God we are so fecked





What an absolute car crash. She does her trademark facial expression too while stumbling, also known as "disaster face" as originated by that taxi driver on BBC News.

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God we are so fecked



One can only hope that the PM is not so...fearful, or so inhibited behind the closed door of No 10. You'd like to say that such is symptomatic of her GE failure, however she's never been particularly instinctive or relaxed when interacting with the media.


What a crock. Are we supposed to have forgotten your heroes calling us bargaining chips and not giving a single feck about us for about the first 9 months after Brexit?

We could have made greater progress on the matter if not for the EU's greed, of both money and continued influence. FWIW, i'd like to see a unilateral declaration of some sort prior to Christmas, albeit in line with our position on the ECJ.


Oh yeah, let's have a formal alliance with Trump's America, what possible downside could there be to that?

A fitting generalisation on your part, i suppose.
 
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Just read back over the first few pages of this thread again. It's weird how the complete and utter shock is sometimes followed by "...what next? Trump in the White House??" :lol:

What a crazy few months in retrospect.
 
Second government minister in so many days do you go on the media and refused to say whether or not they would back brexit if there was a vote tomorrow.