The state of Guardiola | Regrets Redmond incident

Surely one of the tabloid rags has hired a lip reader by now to see what he actually said?

(Apologies if it's already been discussed amongst the handbags in this thread)
 
amolbhatia50k said:
That makes no sense whatsoever. Calling your counterparts bald, fat and saying that his wife should feed them less is also unecesssary. In fact, it's nasty, unlike a manager speaking dramatically to a player without said player even taking offense.

You appear to be focusing merely on the initiation on the interaction rather than severity which is rather misplaced.


The irony is strong here. Pep had a slightly wierd and dramatic interaction with a footballer who seemingly took no offense to it at all and felt the need to come out and specifically say that because people really really did.

Pep could have had that conversation in the tunnel but he didn't feel like and he is entitled to do that. He's not a fan rushing on to the pitch. Players and managers actually carry out their duties there. If they feel like having a word they will. It's a small fecking deal to get all worked up about. As if people need to interact away from cameras since if offends you.

How other teams play is totally his business to have an opinion about. I mean he is a manager in the game after all unlike armchair supporters sat at home not even in the industry really. It's not his business to decide what other teams do but he can definitely have an opinion on it and express it.

I don't think Pep's actions need to be justified by Jose's because they're not actually terrible even in isolation. I'd call him out for that medical team nonsense at Bayern for sure which was downright wierd. And some of his interviews have been really strange and awkward. But the reaction to this conversation have been very funny.
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What makes no sense is your constant back-peddling. We were talking about Conte and his bald comment and as I've already stated, I didn't agree with it, I simply found it a humorous remark to something someone else initiated. You're adding in extra scenarios, all of which have literally nothing to do with what's being discussed, especially as it's already the consensus that Jose is a prick. An opinion I also share, I haven't stated otherwise. Something doesn't have to be severe to be stupid and thus discussed. Just because you don't think it merits discussion, doesn't mean others do.

That bold bit is actually hilarious. He didn't feel like being a proper professional and he's entitlted to look like a fecking wacko on national TV. Funnily enough, people are also entitled to question him on his actions as they 'feel like it'. What a fecking piss poor argument. Literally nothing to add to justify any of his actions except 'he felt like it'. Jose also felt like gouging someone's eyes out, doesn't make it any less stupid. I'm not even really that worked up about it - doesn't mean it should be overlooked. It was fecking stupid of him and as a result people discussed it.

Having an opinion on how other team's play and approaching players of said team and publicly discussing discontent on their playstyle is two completely different things. The way he was playing was obviously down to his manager, he's not a fecking idiot - he knows that. By questioning it, he's obviously sending a message to the manager. Before you start white knighting and backtracking again, consider that it's not the first time he's done this either. He's always displayed that holier than thou attitude, questioning tactic's in the past. Long balls etc.

Considering your whole argument revolves around - he can do it because he wants to, it's obvious you really have nothing substantial to add to this discussion. No-one is genuinely worked up by his actions. They think it was stupid, unnecessary and downright odd and thus was discussed.
 
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Womp said:
You’re right that it’s not a big deal, I doubt people are genuinely calling for his head or a ban or whatever over this. It was still inappropriate though. Couple that with the fact that the way he did it was extremely odd and you have something that people will want to discuss.
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Is it though? The player in question, in his own words, said he respected Pep and wanted to listen (even his mother doesn't have a problem with it - as expressed on her Twitter). His coach has no problem with it. The FA have no problem with it.

It's amusing that people are offended on the Redmond's behalf.

Pep may be 'weird' but City are breaking all kinds of records and are having their best chance of winning titles - their fans will embrace a passionate bald man jumping up and down with open arms. It seems, so does Nathan Redmond.
 
Jason Cutler said:
Is it though? The player in question, in his own words, said he respected Pep and wanted to listen (even his mother doesn't have a problem with it - as expressed on her Twitter). His coach has no problem with it. The FA have no problem with it.

It's amusing that people are offended on the Redmond's behalf.

Pep may be 'weird' but City are breaking all kinds of records and are having their best chance of winning titles - their fans will embrace a passionate bald man jumping up and down with open arms. It seems, so does Nathan Redmond.
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There’s a difference between inappropriate and accepted though. Besides, this discussion was released prior to all that information being made available.

Fair enough, he’s a great manager possibly the best in the world currently, but that’s irrelevant. What he did was something I’d expect Klopp to do, which is telling. Klopp gets laughed at and ridiculed for having similar outbursts, yet when Pep is involved it’s not warranted.

It’s all well and good that Redmond’s okay with it, but 1. It could have and should have been done more appropriately and secondly it can be interpreted as being a dig at the Southampton managers tactics. If he didn’t mean it like that - well your guess is as good as mine, but that’s how it was portrayed given his movements and stuff.
Not all players would appreciate that like Redmond did.

He should have just pulled Redmond over in the tunnels and said something, rather than doing it the way he did. Acting like a wacko in any professional job is inappropriate, there are correct ways to do things.
 
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Womp said:
What makes no sense is your constant back-peddling. We were talking about Conte and his bald comment and as I've already stated, I didn't agree with it, I simply found it a humorous remark to something someone else initiated. You're adding in extra scenarios, all of which have literally nothing to do with what's being discussed, especially as it's already the consensus that Jose is a prick. An opinion I also share, I haven't stated otherwise. Something doesn't have to be severe to be stupid and thus discussed. Just because you don't think it merits discussion, doesn't mean others do.

That bold bit is actually hilarious. He didn't feel like being a proper professional and he's entitlted to look like a fecking wacko on national TV. Funnily enough, people are also entitled to question him on his actions as they 'feel like it'. What a fecking piss poor argument. Literally nothing to add to justify any of his actions except 'he felt like it'. Jose also felt like gouging someone's eyes out, doesn't make it any less stupid. I'm not even really that worked up about it - doesn't mean it should be overlooked. It was fecking stupid of him and as a result people discussed it.

Having an opinion on how other team's play and approaching players of said team and publicly discussing discontent on their playstyle is two completely different things. The way he was playing was obviously down to his manager, he's not a fecking idiot - he knows that. By questioning it, he's obviously sending a message to the manager. Before you start white knighting and backtracking again, consider that it's not the first time he's done this either. He's always displayed that holier than thou attitude, questioning tactic's in the past. Long balls etc.

Considering your whole argument revolves around - he can do it because he wants to, it's obvious you really have nothing substantial to add to this discussion. No-one is genuinely worked up by his actions. They think it was stupid, unnecessary and downright odd and thus was discussed.
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I'll reply later to this long drawn out and seemingly wound up dump of pointlessness.

Backtracking? More like taking your strange and logic defying argument apart piece and piece. I'll come back to do it again. Hold tight.
 
If he was our manager, all the people in this thread would worship him lile a god.
 
M18CTID said:
So what are you saying? That The Sun was telling the truth and Redmond is lying to pull Guardiola out of the shit?

Let’s face it - and I could be wrong - you made this thread in the wake of City scoring a last minute winner last night and your blood was boiling so much (and don’t get me wrong, I can understand the anger in the heat of the moment) that you thought you’d try and deflect from all that and try to throw some shit at City’s manager but now the player himself has clarified that said manager wasn’t being quite the twat you perceived him to be, he’s still a twat anyway despite the player himself claiming otherwise.

This is a good forum in the main - I wouldn’t be on here otherwise - but I swear if an equivalent thread to this appeared on a certain City forum we wouldn’t hear the last of it.
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Can you spare me your amateur psycho analysis - this thread was made a fair amount of time after city scored in a game I only saw after as I was busy.

I've actually been balanced compared to the way the thread went which is not my responsibility. I never even considered that he was on the pitch abusing Redmond- I supposed in the first post that he did exactly what Redmond said he did.

Going onto the pitch in a hysterical strop telling a player how he should play is disrespectful to the opposing manager and no matter what way you spin it smacks of an enormous self righteousness. Nothing I said at any point in this thread would change based on Redmond confirming what I thought, other posters assuming it was insulting etc is not my problem.

I can only assume that the next time a city player dives to win a penalty Guardiola will be rushing on to make a show of what a purist he is, or that if they lead 1\0 at old Trafford they will be continuing to attack without caution. It smacks of hypocrisy and the only person who's blood was boiling and did something he shouldn't have was Guardiola

If you have a beef with the larger content of the thread and venom towards Guardiola take it up with the individual posters
 
quiet_united said:
If he was our manager, all the people in this thread would worship him lile a god.
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Just like some do with Jose despite the guy being as weird and much cnut as Pep.

Well, we are a bit fickle. It is a bit of amusing to make fun of others or defending them a bit.

But, some are overdoing it and making themselves look like having obsession.
 
Spending £500m and then telling opposition player how he should and shouldn't play because it didn't allow his precious team to play the way he wanted. He really is a self entitle prick who thinks world owes him something.
 
I wonder if Redmond's reaction to Pep had anything to do with maybe hoping that City will go after him in the future.
I could be wrong but wasn't Redmond's name linked to City in their search for wing backs?

I just have a hard time believing he would have the same reaction to David Moyes or Tony Pulis after losing a game like that and having Moyes get in his grill and put his hands all over him
 
Wow this thing is overblown. Guardiola is a nutter which we already knew and Redmond kept it professional in the media. That's all.
 
United_We_Stand said:

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I don’t see what’s wrong with the Sun headline. Redmond is a winger isn’t he?
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I'll reply later to this long drawn out and seemingly wound up dump of pointlessness.

Backtracking? More like taking your strange and logic defying argument apart piece and piece. I'll come back to do it again. Hold tight.
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Aye you really did that with your insightful genius in the first post. He did it because he wanted to. Truly breathtaking stuff.

Here I was thinking he was under some sort of mind control.
 
SER19 said:
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5133983/Pep-Guardiola-thinks-hes-smartest-room.html

Pretty much spot on without venom from either end of spectrum. Shame about the source but some could do with reminding that any criticism of lord pep isn't always borne out of a hatred for the man or anything deeper than a criticism of a certain act
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100%. I can't believe that Redmond found that complimentary, it was patronising and arrogant in the extreme, especially given that Redmond is an average player.
 
wc18 said:
I wonder if Redmond's reaction to Pep had anything to do with maybe hoping that City will go after him in the future.
I could be wrong but wasn't Redmond's name linked to City in their search for wing backs?

I just have a hard time believing he would have the same reaction to David Moyes or Tony Pulis after losing a game like that and having Moyes get in his grill and put his hands all over him
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Oh this is the case im sure of it.
 
Womp said:
TBF though that was just a response from Jose. It wasn't really him going out of his way to downplay another professional. Invading a player's personal space to tell them that the way his manager is getting him to play isn't correct is wrong. I'd say the same if Jose did so too, or any other manager too.
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This is very believable :lol: I'm sure you wouldn't be bending over backwards to defend it at all, while also going on some top red rant about how people are so mean to Mourinho.
 
Still hate Pep and whatever he said he still looked like a wanker saying it
 
I don't know why so many here care. Pep is a bit weird but honestly who gives a feck if no harm is done?
 
Seveneric said:
This is very believable :lol: I'm sure you wouldn't be bending over backwards to defend it at all, while also going on some top red rant about how people are so mean to Mourinho.
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That's not me, you're probably thinking of Haram. I've defended Mourinho on here before in regards to his performance with us, but I've never defended his stupidity. He's a cnut, there's nothing more to it.
 
This is just an unnecessary side show. If/when City win the league this incident will just be a footnote.

Let's not take our eyes of the ball, the Manc derby is almost upon us and it's a must-win to stop City running away with it.

These types of incidents make great stories for the newspapers and drama queens but don't really change much on the field. Pep is God to City and it's players.

We should focus on our under-pressure manager Jose Mourinho who isn't whiter than white when it comes to these types of things.

I can't believe it has so many pages !
 
Ainu said:
I don't know why so many here care. Pep is a bit weird but honestly who gives a feck if no harm is done?
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People wouldn't say this if it was Jose. Jose also did no harm when he kicked a bottle but was punished. Pep "reinvented" football so no one gives a feck, he can get away with murder too.
 
What a load of nonsense. A manager talked to a player, big deal.

The sun blow it out of proportion by lying, people go mad. It's like people cannot wait for a bit of drama. Honestly folks, calm down and get on with your life. Nothing happened here.

This thread is like an episode of loose women
 
Craig Ward said:
What a load of nonsense. A manager talked to a player, big deal.

The sun blow it out of proportion by lying, people go mad. It's like people cannot wait for a bit of drama. Honestly folks, calm down and get on with your life. Nothing happened here.

This thread is like an episode of loose women
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well football fans in general are no different than high school drama queen:lol:.
Disgusting, disgraceful, awful, cringe worthy, annoying, irritating and so on are common words used by most:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
RedStrudel76 said:
This is just an unnecessary side show. If/when City win the league this incident will just be a footnote.

Let's not take our eyes of the ball, the Manc derby is almost upon us and it's a must-win to stop City running away with it.

These types of incidents make great stories for the newspapers and drama queens but don't really change much on the field. Pep is God to City and it's players.

We should focus on our under-pressure manager Jose Mourinho who isn't whiter than white when it comes to these types of things.

I can't believe it has so many pages !
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:lol: Now this is clearly bs. He isn't under any kind of pressure as of now.

We've had a very good start to the season in all competitions. City having one of a kind extraordinary start doesn't change that.
 
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SER19 said:
Can you spare me your amateur psycho analysis - this thread was made a fair amount of time after city scored in a game I only saw after as I was busy.

I've actually been balanced compared to the way the thread went which is not my responsibility. I never even considered that he was on the pitch abusing Redmond- I supposed in the first post that he did exactly what Redmond said he did.

Going onto the pitch in a hysterical strop telling a player how he should play is disrespectful to the opposing manager and no matter what way you spin it smacks of an enormous self righteousness. Nothing I said at any point in this thread would change based on Redmond confirming what I thought, other posters assuming it was insulting etc is not my problem.

I can only assume that the next time a city player dives to win a penalty Guardiola will be rushing on to make a show of what a purist he is, or that if they lead 1\0 at old Trafford they will be continuing to attack without caution. It smacks of hypocrisy and the only person who's blood was boiling and did something he shouldn't have was Guardiola

If you have a beef with the larger content of the thread and venom towards Guardiola take it up with the individual posters
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To be fair, compared to Womp you have been balanced mate but then so has everybody else ;)
 
Womp said:
I'm calm pal. To address your post - whether or not they were time wasting is irrelevant. It's hardly a new concept, the smaller clubs have done it since the sport began. They had to try and kill City's momentum throughout the game, they did what they had to do to try and give themselves a sort of edge.

It's completely understandable that Pep didn't like them wasting time, no manager would. What was wrong of him was to approach Redmond the way he did to basically undermine Pellegrino. It was wrong and I'd say as much if any other manager did it too.
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Crikey mate, did you get any sleep last night or what? Surely, there are more significant things in football to get worked up about than spending all night posting on a thread about being offended by proxy on behalf of a player who says there’s no issue.

Guardiola isn’t perfect by any means but he was a far bigger bellend when complaining about the ball that was used in our League Cup game against Wolves the other week.
 
Lord SInister said:
well football fans in general are no different than high school drama queen:lol:.
Disgusting, disgraceful, awful, cringe worthy, annoying, irritating and so on are common words used by most:lol::lol::lol::lol:
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So true. This is such a minor incident but people are freaking out :lol:
 
M18CTID said:
Crikey mate, did you get any sleep last night or what? Surely, there are more significant things in football to get worked up about than spending all night posting on a thread about being offended by proxy on behalf of a player who says there’s no issue.

Guardiola isn’t perfect by any means but he was a far bigger bellend when complaining about the ball that was used in our League Cup game against Wolves the other week.
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I really ma not that worked up at all lol. People quoted me and I responded?
 
Theonas said:
I don't disagree. For me, the worst thing about Pep's comments were that it was disrespectful to Pellegrino. Regardless of what you think, I don't think you should publicly put down a fellow professional. I think it was lately with Domenech mocking Nante's Ranieri, it was also patronising and unnecessary. My point was that managers act crazy all the time. The however when the attacks are personal, it tends to attract more criticism and is less likely to be viewed as another sore loser eccentric. That's the reason Mourinho gets criticized more often, it is not because he acts weird, whiny or plain delusional like Pep, Klopp, Conte, Wenger, Fergie and many others which they all do, it is because he tends to get offensively personal at times as in insulting a fellow manager's wife, or questioning the honesty of his own players.
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reminds me of when Keegan got mad because SAF played up Nottingham Forest
 
Maybe Redmond hopes that Pep brings him to City someday. :wenger:

You are a good player so why you choose to play like this is the most likely thing he said. He shouldn't be coming to opposition player shouting in his face anyway, and I'm positive if it was Mourinho he'd get a 3-match ban for this.
 
Pep is not just a coach for Man City, he is a coach for the League who we should all be grateful for. He is currently at Goodison telling Ashley Williams how to head a ball and then he taking a trip down to West Ham to show Ogbonna that he can dribble the ball out of defence at will.
 
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