Good teams make there own luck they play patient and allways the same way .Sunday should be good
Manchester City 17/18 discussion | "If you're here for the Champions clap your hands" (#6505)
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Do you know anything about the statment you are quoting. It was about Chelsea and Liverpool, nothing to do with Van Gaal. It was to show Chelsea are making inroads on the biggest clubs which it has. I believe a list of social media follower, shirt sales is pretty much more accurate than those who say "Liverpool have more fans then Chelsea, I know because they won loads 30 years ago."
I know that i sound bitter now and will sound like liverpool fan but i am sick about them diving all the time on any soft contact. Is this premier league or basketball ? Free kick for first goal against west ham was a dive. Sterlings penalty week ago was a dive. Penalty vs arsenal was a dive.
What will happen against our boys who are two times stronger than them? I expect scenes like in invasion on normandy. In every moment one or two city players will be on the ground.
What will happen against our boys who are two times stronger than them? I expect scenes like in invasion on normandy. In every moment one or two city players will be on the ground.
We didn't score from a free-kick, no it wasn't, and again, no it wasn't.
FFS I literally wrote "doesn't change anything about your statements".
But now that we're at it: You quote a footballing source that claims to be able to measure the worldwide fanbase of all football clubs, yet misses an FA Cup in it's summary about united. How the flying feck do they know anything about the sizes of fanbases if they can't even notice FA cup wins!?
I hadn't really bought into the idea of Alexis Sanchez being the right fit for City's needs but slowly it is making more sense to me - they lack an attacking player who can dribble into the box centrally and Sanchez is an elite option in that regard. He's not the goalscorer that would be ideal IMHO but he wouldn't have to be as he would create scoring options against buses much more easily than anyone in their current squad. I suspect Wenger knows this all too well and would rather ensure a top 4 finish with him to mitigate the financial loss from his sale in winter that undoubtedly would take City up another level
Tosin is not a legitimate option and clearly Mangala isn't either, even if Stones is back shortly - they will need a central defender too before finding a future DM in the summer
Tosin is not a legitimate option and clearly Mangala isn't either, even if Stones is back shortly - they will need a central defender too before finding a future DM in the summer
They are doing what we did under fergie and if they can do what they are doing for all of december well the gap will only widen. They clearly are the best team in the league and have a manager whose decision are paying off. KDB/Silva are their heartbeat and probably two best creators in the league. The only thing that will stop them going unbeaten is tiredness. I think They will beat us comfortably and will only suffer a shock defeat after the title is sown up and they are in Champions league semifinals. That is what you get for investing so much in the football side of the club. Just class above right now.
Sorry I thought you said does change my statement. Lazy reading on my part. It's actually a huge clanger on the FA Cup, and there is no true way to measure but it's more accurate then the argument against Chelsea some were making. They simply added shirt sales and social media followers. Of course its not accurate as I follow most big clubs on all social media.
Oh really? I arent very familiar with cities defense other than Walker, otamendi and Kompany!
Oh, yes it was. He did "ashley young " trick there. Ball was lost and he put his foot on defenders leg.
I bet that all guardiola teams have one training per week where they train only diving.
Edit: to be clear here , i an not saying that you cheat. Your players don't do classic dives what is cheating. I am saying that you fall down on ANY contact.
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They will have to start changing up the line-p soon as the wheels are slowly coming off energy wise. Pep has gone full speed ahead whereas Jose has reserved alot of energy.. can City win without expending lots of energy? Or with weaker line-up.. their depth isn't that great
I have no idea what incident you're referring to, but the penalty v Huddersfield (which I literally haven't heard a single person say was not a penalty, and Wagner even conceded as much after the game), and the one v Arsenal both involved clear contact. Our players are no worse than anyone else, like all clubs we have a few players who can play-act (Otamendi the worst culprit) or can go down easily (Sterling, Sane, Jesus). No mention of the amount of West Ham players throwing themselves to the floor today or feigning injury, eh?
Our terrible defence has conceded one more goal than United, I’m scratching my head where this theory comes from?
Just like how they beat West ham and Southampton comfortably
City are the favourites to win the title and probably they will win it this season but they would be fools to underestimate us. What we have done to Watford and Arsenal is not a flash in the pan of a result. City needs to bring their absolute A game and not what they have been doing for past 2 weeks, because if they do that and set themselves for counter then trust me with or without Pogba we can beat them.
Even after spending so much? I feel Pep is not trusting is reserve players like Jose is doing. This is why many have said one or two injury to their attacker or Fernandinho they are going to struggle further. Even if we draw next week , 8 points can be reduced significantly in 3 or 4 weeks. All we have to do is not drop silly points to the bottom half teams.
They have surely shown not to be perfect in the last 4 games. The problem is that they have luck on their side as well.
I would not say they were diving, but Guardiolas teams play for penalties. You can kind of see him telling them to keep moving and invite tackles, because he knows they will be fowled because of it. Granted the one against Huddersfield was a penalty, i do not deny that, but these penalties are calculated. Guardiola knows that by telling his attacking players to play a certain way, they will invite tackles, some of which will lead to penalties and others which will lead to yellow/red cards for the other team.
Look I dont blame him for doing it. But there is a culture of it with Guardiolas teams, especially if the game is tight.
That's not all we have to do. We pretty much have to win whenever City do plus beat them at Old Trafford. Mountain to climb given they look a better team.
Since about the Napoli game, I'd say they haven't looked as good a team. Vulnerable defensively and their attack has lost some of it's edge. Most of the chances they're creating now are crosses into the box which is hardly scintillating football. Their winner today was from a KDB punt. The past few games they've still been dominating teams but given the quality of opposition they've played, you'd expect as much. We'd dominate West Ham etc. too.
I actually think we're in better form. Without Pogba though I don't see us getting anything out of this game. He's going to be a huge loss as he's essential to how we play.
City have won 20 games in a row (including vs Wolfs on pens). Guardiola has never started a season in a better way, incuding his best Barca and Bayern sides. But they look tired now. And not only physically. It's incredibly difficult to stay focused for months. Still, make no mistake, they'll be up for it and will run a lot next weekend. But so will Unted. It will be a terrific game. We can beat them, especially if we score first. It's completely unpredictable, IMO, apart form them having about 60 % possession. Arsenal had 73% and lost though. I wouldn't put money on this game. A big win for United is entirely possible. Maybe for City too, who knows? It's less likely though.
Their team is beginning to look shot tbh. It's coming at a bad time for them too as in this period the games are just going to keep piling up. I still think they'll win the league and beat us this weekend, but I don't think they're going to win the league by as big as the margin is now. The level of their performances are really beginning to drop.
Doubt it....I don't think he gets a bonus on attendance figures, he probably doesn't give a monkeys chuff how many people come to games!
Would largely agree with that though I don't think there's much between our form and theirs right now. Problem is we're 8 points behind, matching them is nowhere near enough. Which is why i disagreed with the notion all we have to do is avoid dropping points to the lower teams.
Ah yea, my bad pal. We just need to win three more games than they do from now until the end of the season. Hopefully this weekend is the first of those three. It's looking unlikely but I still think we're in with a shot, their form is beginning to stabilize it seems whereas we seem to be getting stronger and more efficient. We have a top manager and a very good squad, City's first team are better, but our reserves are doing the job for us too, we're yet to see if theirs can for them.
Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Southampton, now West Ham. So many late winners, that's quite impressive. Trying to be optimistic that they're pushed to the end quite a lot, but that's not much good when they keep finding a way to win.
Personally I don't read too much into form over the last couple of weeks. It was only a couple of weeks ago we looked laboured and tired, relying on an Ashley Young deflection to win a game. Then we play as we did on Saturday. I wouldn't bet against City getting back upto speed soon.
We'll give them a brutal mauling when they come to Anfield. They suck there.
City will drop points. They will, it's next to impossible for them to keep on winning against every team, especially with the way they are playing. We just have to be on their toes.
Course they'll drop points. So will we. Every team will. Which is fine as long as you're not already 8 points behind.
Avoiding upsets to the lower clubs won't do the trick. We're going to need an epic run of victories.
These weaker teams need to keep countering when they're sitting deep. You can't stay in your own half for 45 minutes and not expect City to score. It's just so fecking dumb.
Maybe this is the slump so many have predicted, maybe, just maybe, we will ride out this "slump" (in which we are grinding out winning results) and return to our free scoring form of a few weeks ago.
I'm still not confident of a result next week though, I seriously think that could be our first loss of the season, however, I would definitely have taken a 5 point advantage after playing United at this stage of the season back in August!
I'm still not confident of a result next week though, I seriously think that could be our first loss of the season, however, I would definitely have taken a 5 point advantage after playing United at this stage of the season back in August!
And that's my worry. City might be going through their sticky spell and still winning.
Next weeks game will have a massive impact on the title race. A loss for either side is unthinkable but for City, riding high at the top of the table, the implications and the potential knock-on affect following a loss will be significantly worse.
If City do drop points then I think it’s really important they get back to winning ways quickly, and we have the fixtures to do it. In theory heading in to these games after United with a 5 point gap is a great place to be, but it would be very important to not let it rock the boat. A draw or win at weekend and it’s a great result.
10th Dec - United (A). 2nd
13th Dec - Swansea (A). 20th
16th Dec - Spurs (H). 6th
23rd Dec - Bournemouth (H). 14th
27th Dec - Newcastle (A). 15th
31st Dec - Crystal Palace (A). 18th
2nd Jan - Watford (H). 8th
10th Dec - United (A). 2nd
13th Dec - Swansea (A). 20th
16th Dec - Spurs (H). 6th
23rd Dec - Bournemouth (H). 14th
27th Dec - Newcastle (A). 15th
31st Dec - Crystal Palace (A). 18th
2nd Jan - Watford (H). 8th
Holy shit look at those dates.
Its going to be madness.
Its going to be madness.
11 games each for the next 5 weeks I read today. Mental.
Its the same for every club in the PL. But City have the strength in depth.
Their 2nd string defence may struggle against top sides, but they should still smash the fodder like Bournemouth, Newcastle or Palace.
You’re not kidding. Quite a generous run of fixtures for a gruelling spell when you think about it, could be a lot worse. Would be interested to see yours and Chelsea’s.
I don't think it really matters but tbf didn't he complain about attendance last season or am I imagining things?
9 games in 27 days!!!
05th Dec Man United vs CSKA Moscow CL
10th Dec Man United vs Man City PL
13th Dec Man United vs AFC Bournemouth PL
17th Dec West Bromwich Albion vs Man United PL
20th Dec Bristol City vs Man United League Cup
23rd Dec Leicester City vs Man United PL
26th Dec Man United vs Burnley PL
30th Dec Man United vs Southampton PL
01st Jan Everton vs Man United PL