Manchester City 17/18 discussion | "If you're here for the Champions clap your hands" (#6505)

SER19 said:
http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/guardiola-january-signings-manchester-city/19f2euxdjyd0z1x7pk5du608tg

:lol: :lol: chequebook pep. Ferguson won titles with carrack and fletcher stepping in at the hectic times. How can he say this rubbish with a straight face, like to see him say it to bottom half managers.
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Errrrr, the same Ferguson got signings like Vidic, Evra in January. It all depends on available budget, positional needs, urgency etc.

Moreover, every top manager is a chequebook manager today but spending money never guarantees success(QPR, Everton etc. are prime examples).
 
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Treble said:
According to statisitcal analyses, City should have scored more and conceded less goals last season. Alone on the statistical evidence from last season, they predicted that they will be favourites for the title this season.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...does-show-man-city-should-win-premier-league/
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Arsene Wenger liked his expected goals too and lost 3-1 to us. Better to have 2 expected goals for and 0 against than 5 expected goals for and 2 against. Pep knows this because he is pragmatic. Your link just backs up what I said: Pep reduced the risk.
 
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Unstoppable at the minute. They really are the best team in Europe right now. I can see them winning the CL
 
And we're on 38 points. Shows how good our results have been. Any other year maybe.
 
15 consecutive wins in the league. The longest run in English football history.

But it's all luck.
 
They have more points right now than the side who finished 8th last year.
They could match our total in early January
 
Does no one get bored of the same circular discussion every time they win a game? Every matchday the thread just repeats.
 
lets face it, they're a hell of a team. money doesn't guarantee you play like they currently are. they're frankly heads and shoulders above everyone else.
 
DocRockter said:
Fernandinho injured?? Would be their first but one can hope, right?
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You say that like Mendy, Stones, Kompany, Aguero and Gundogan haven't all missed spells of this season due to injury.
 
It's looking like Everton and Rooney may be the only ones to take points off of City for this entire season... They're definitely on course to set a new point record.
 
Park Life said:
Probably
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Ha on current form I doubt it, the only hope we have is that we can take advantage of you attacking and hit you like we did Real and Dortmund. I hope it will be close but I still think you will comfortably win, maybe not by a landslide though. I can see Poch surrendering the majority of position and hoping you try and overplay the ball.
 
Raebareliwale said:
Errrrr, the same Ferguson got signings like Vidic, Evra in January. It all depends on available budget, positional needs, urgency etc.

Moreover, every top manager is a chequebook manager today but spending money never guarantees success(QPR, Everton etc. are prime examples).
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Give me a break the guy has spent a couple of hundred million on defence in 18 months and now wants to go out and splash more of the oil money because of some injuries. Can only imagine how some managers without that unlimited money feel hearing him moan about injuries while they try get results with what they have.But yeah ferguson signing two bargains that one time 13 years ago is the same thing and the way he managed the squad through annual defensive "crisis" in title winning years is irrelevant. Guardiola will win everything once you keep filling his pockets
 
SER19 said:
Give me a break the guy has spent a couple of hundred million on defence in 18 months and now wants to go out and splash more of the oil money because of some injuries. Can only imagine how some managers without that unlimited money feel hearing him moan about injuries while they try get results with what they have.But yeah ferguson signing two bargains that one time 13 years ago is the same thing and the way he managed the squad through annual defensive "crisis" in title winning years is irrelevant. Guardiola will win everything once you keep filling his pockets
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Spot on I really don't see why this is so hard to get.
 
SER19 said:
Give me a break the guy has spent a couple of hundred million on defence in 18 months and now wants to go out and splash more of the oil money because of some injuries. Can only imagine how some managers without that unlimited money feel hearing him moan about injuries while they try get results with what they have.But yeah ferguson signing two bargains that one time 13 years ago is the same thing and the way he managed the squad through annual defensive "crisis" in title winning years is irrelevant. Guardiola will win everything once you keep filling his pockets
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It certainly helps that Pep broke the premiership summer window spending record this year and Silva/KDB have stayed fit.
 
FC Ronaldo said:
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That is very impressive; the record has been destroyed. As mentioned above, our 38 points at this stage is also up there with the previous best, it's just that City have been so good. Of course it only takes one bad day to see an unbeaten run end, but it isn't going to be easy for any team to beat them in the league.
 
InLevyITrust said:
Spot on I really don't see why this is so hard to get.
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I believe it's called denial. Somebody give pochettino a blank cheque and unlimited wages and let him replace alderweireld.

It is what it is and if Guardiola can buy his way out of having to manage his squad then why wouldn't he, but I don't get pretending that's not what's happening- when it's pretty clear
 
SER19 said:
I believe it's called denial. Somebody give pochettino a blank cheque and unlimited wages and let him replace alderweireld.

It is what it is and if Guardiola can buy his way out of having to manage his squad then why wouldn't he, but I don't get pretending that's not what's happening- when it's pretty clear
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ok keep coping
 
SER19 said:
Give me a break the guy has spent a couple of hundred million on defence in 18 months and now wants to go out and splash more of the oil money because of some injuries. Can only imagine how some managers without that unlimited money feel hearing him moan about injuries while they try get results with what they have.But yeah ferguson signing two bargains that one time 13 years ago is the same thing and the way he managed the squad through annual defensive "crisis" in title winning years is irrelevant. Guardiola will win everything once you keep filling his pockets
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It's not even January and you've already went full hysteria. City's squad isn't even that big and I assume he mostly meant a centre back.
 
SqualorVictoria said:
It's not even January and you've already went full hysteria. City's squad isn't even that big and I assume he mostly meant a centre back.
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Full hysteria. You've got a pretty low barometer then. He's essentially said he'll have to add to it to cope in January.

As if city haven't spent a fortune on centre halves? It's absurd really but as I said- If they back him he'll spend it and why not- but other managers won't have the luxury
 
Money is one important reason behind City's current form. The other is Guardiola.

Only 4 players signed by him started vs United: Ederson, Walker, Jesus and Sane. Their combined fee was 150m. That's about as much as Liverpool wanted for Coutinho. And less than what PSG will pay for Mbappe.

Against Swansea: Ederson, Danilo, Bernardo. Their combined fee amounts to 100m. And by all accounts their team looked fantastic last night.

Guardiola inherited some great players. However, he inherited a squad that had ten 30+ y.o. players and that finished 15 pts behind Leicester the previousn season and on less than 80 pts the season before that. Yet they play now almost like Barcelona.

The worst thing re: City is yet to come. They will be better next season. Delph isn't a natural left back, Kompany looks finished, Mangala is of dubious quality, Toure is finished too, Fernandinho has no replacement in this squad. Once they improve on these players, the younger players develop further and the team learns better Guardiola's system, they will play even better.

United need huge investments to compete: new full-backs, creative midfielders and top top attackers.
 
Raebareliwale said:
Errrrr, the same Ferguson got signings like Vidic, Evra in January. It all depends on available budget, positional needs, urgency etc.

Moreover, every top manager is a chequebook manager today but spending money never guarantees success(QPR, Everton etc. are prime examples).
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And what did Utd win the season they bought Vidic and Evra??
 
DRM said:
Unstoppable at the minute. They really are the best team in Europe right now. I can see them winning the CL
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Far from proven atm. The big sides in Europe take this football thing seriously. There is no way they'll ever play against one of the other big boys away from home and face long hopeful balls and 0 shots at goal for the first 40 minutes of the match while they have 75% of the ball.
 
rotherham_red said:
And what did Utd win the season they bought Vidic and Evra??
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Immaterial, my point is its the need and available budget that drives the transfers in January. City clearly are hampered by injuries and Mangala's dubious quality and need a CB badly. Moreover they have the budget to do it. Its ridiculous to suggest that because we are comfortably ahead in the league standing, we should ignore the needs of the team.
 
DanClancy said:
Chelsea on 05/06 had 61 points out of 66 after 22 games.
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That's seriously impressive and I think City will do well to match that after 22 games. We've 5 games to go up until that point so we can only drop a maximum of 3 points just in order to match that 22 game total and with Spurs up next followed by the busy Christmas period I think we'll drop some points before the year is out.
 
M18CTID said:
That's seriously impressive and I think City will do well to match that after 22 games. We've 5 games to go up until that point so we can only drop a maximum of 3 points just in order to match that 22 game total and with Spurs up next followed by the busy Christmas period I think we'll drop some points before the year is out.
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Next 5 league games are:

Spurs H
Bournemouth H
Newcastle A
Palace A
Watford H

The Spurs and Palace games could be tricky (especially with Kompany and Stones - our two best defenders - out for the Spurs game). But to be honest I won't be shocked if we pick up 15 points from that lot. We've had tougher tests this season and come through all of them.
 
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