That wasn't the intention but point taken
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That wasn't the intention but point taken
Exactly. Just to come to Manchester plus tickets is too expensive for me right now. I would go so much more if I could. So using it against me is not really cool.
Not a word about Sterling getting physically assaulted and racially abused outside the training ground, insane
I never said you did. I making a point. Rivalry is part of football and rivals mock each other. 'Small time' is always spouted by Utd and Liverpool as some kind of dig because they can't handle the fact they're no longer dominant, conveniently forgetting they've been rubbing their rivals faces in it for years.
I only heard about it this morning: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...g-racially-aggravated-assault-manchester-city
Mental that such a thing can happen outside the training ground opposite the main stadium.
Trying too hard to manufacture a hatred and rivalry. That's small time.
It's just funny that when City is so good and dominant their players still concern themselves with United.
Mind you I'd say the same if United players did it in the same circumstances.
Awwww, diddums. I'm really sorry that you're so offended by said chant - I feel a right twat now for singing it at the derby the other week
I'm not offended. It's a pretty shit chant to be fair. Id imagine it's quite rousing with the acoustics of a half empty Etihad Stadium mind though.
They are cute when rattled
Yeah, it's that shit that United fans were belting it out at West Brom yesterday!
To be fair though do you not see the irony on someone spouting off about empty seats when they don't attend their own clubs games?
And to be honest this argument is on bluemoon too. Some of our American posters don't like early leavers or when cup matches arnt sold out. Looks bad on t.v.
I mean just WTF.
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Yeah I guess I should jump on the plane every time I want to see United and if I don't I can't comment on attendance. I mean as the other poster, City fan, said,it's a rivalry we make fun of each other. Me being few thousand miles from OT doesn't mean I can't do it. No irony in that.
There appears to be many many threads and posts created/manufactured by united fans on this forum alone which would seem to show its rather real to many united fans.
Answering a post from the other thread because it was closed while I typed it out.
Like I said, I held onto the "he is only great because he has great players" argument for as long as I could, but at this point that argument doesnt quite hold up for me anymore. I think he is one of, and quite probably the best in the world at this point. The last thing I want to have to admit, but I cant go on denying the obvious in the name of partisan loyalty. All I can do is hope, unlikely as it looks at this point, that City collapse, inviting questions about his mental toughness.
He's spent a lot of money but so has everyone. The amount of money in football now I dont know who will ever achieve anything without spending mind boggling sums. You could say Ranieri did it but nobody is suggesting he is the best manager in the world. In terms of sustained success, you need quality and depth and to achieve that you have to spend a lot of money, I think its a bit unfair to hold that against Guardiola. But its not like he went out and signed Ronaldo, Messi and Neymar. As someone said above, if you look at the City team on paper, its good but not as vastly superior to everyone else as the performances suggest.
Like I said, I held onto the "he is only great because he has great players" argument for as long as I could, but at this point that argument doesnt quite hold up for me anymore. I think he is one of, and quite probably the best in the world at this point. The last thing I want to have to admit, but I cant go on denying the obvious in the name of partisan loyalty. All I can do is hope, unlikely as it looks at this point, that City collapse, inviting questions about his mental toughness.
You're doing well in the league, the threads are nothing more than that. There's not the real venom there we have for Leeds or Liverpool, desperate as your club is to have a rivalry to match that, hence the 'taunting' that is so clearly scripted. It's like the Tevez to Manchester digs, oh so plastic.
Yes you're right, I think that he got every player he needed however whereas we were dithering on the price (Perisic). Basically, he has every type of player and a replacement available to suit his playing style and the blank cheque is a catalyst to that.
If he were held back financially to some degree, would we see the same domination?
Come on mate. Clubs, players, fans, all bad as each other, at all clubs. We could go tit for tat on here all day. You mention the Tevez poster and I'll come back with flag mocking our trophy count for 30 odd years. With the clubs blessing.
Edit. Just noticed this was brought up not long ago.
I guess it depends how much he was financially held back. I dare say if he received the same level of support as Mourinho has had - which is a lot - he would do fine. But then I disagree with some United fans about the extent to which Mourinho has been supported.
I read he is going to a lot of youth games and taking a real interest in promoting people from City's academy as well, so maybe he will answer his remaining critics in the second half of this season and next.
He's a quality player. Better than all of our attackers.
Born in Britain. Raised in Britain.
What's strange about that?
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I think i may of worded it wrong. It was more why the poster kept saying it on several post.
City are favorites for the Champions League at the bookies now - https://www.oddschecker.com/football/champions-league/winner
I certainly wouldn't bet on anyone beating them.
I personally find it refreshing to see a PL team that looks capable of breaking the Real-Barca stranglehold of the last near-decade.
I certainly wouldn't bet on anyone beating them.
I personally find it refreshing to see a PL team that looks capable of breaking the Real-Barca stranglehold of the last near-decade.
He's a terrible finisher but still has 15 goals. That's a marker on how good their attacking unit is.
There’s 5 Man City related threads at the moment. Its all you see when you log in. Can the mods merge or delete some please?
I would say the gap in quality City's attacking players and ours is greater than United to Burnley's.
United have a poor set of attacking options. Most I would rate at 5/10 or 6/10. Maybe Lukaku is a 7/10 in a PL sense simply for his goal poaching abilities.
City winning CL wouldn't be refreshing in any way but maybe its just me.
I'd take a Barca-Real stranglehold for the next decade if it means City don't win the CL
Nah that's nonsense. Some of United's forwards would get in City's squad still, none of Burnley's would be anywhere near United's.
I personally feel that as the CL gets real, we'll see (yet again) that citeh are far from invincible.
2/3 seasons ago they were faves for the CL, pundits were again calling them the best team on Earth, and when it matter in Europe, they failed. Same will happen again.
Except this time I'll enjoy it even more.
2/3 seasons ago they were faves for the CL, pundits were again calling them the best team on Earth, and when it matter in Europe, they failed. Same will happen again.
Except this time I'll enjoy it even more.
That's pretty much overrating of our forwards. None of them would get into that city lineup.
I didn't say the line-up, I said the squad.
Martial is better than Sterling, surely?
Martial is better than Sterling. Rom is as good as Jesus, albeit as a different type of player.
Pogba is at least as good as KDB albeit in a less coherent team - if you doubt this, just imagine Pogba in citeh's side and KDB in our own (without Pogba).
Pogba is at least as good as KDB albeit in a less coherent team - if you doubt this, just imagine Pogba in citeh's side and KDB in our own (without Pogba).
Isn't it funny how some united fans are finding it positive in city winning. Jeez crazy times.
Some United fans seem determined to play down the rivalry. If we can't be as good as them, not giving a shit about their superiority is the next best thing I guess.
You missed the irony then.. Sigh
This is such a bizarre claim though and based on nothing more than guess-work. In reality, each of the above City players looks far superior to the Utd players quoted - its disappointing but lets face facts.
Martial - Sterling I don't think is that controversial tbh. The other two I'm much less sure about.
excellent use of the word bizarre.
Last year mr animal might have had a point, this year, not a cat in hell. As shown by stat facts. He’s a different beast this year.
You could however argue that sterling’s finishing needs a bit of work, judging by the sitters he alone missed against Spurs. Not surprising he tapped in the comedy of errors goal after his wild misses.
Not really. I just found it odd that it would get an airing against a team that's been getting routinely turned over this season - if it was against someone like Liverpool or Chelsea then fair enough. Anyway, it was interesting that WBA adopted it after they got a goal back and put a bit of pressure on.