Cristiano Ronaldo - performances 2017/18

I agree, and I think it’s a pointless competition.

But as a player in a team underperforming domestically, you won’t get much better reminders of your ability than “lads, we just won the club World Cup again, we’re the best team in the world”. I’m going out on a limb, and if I’m proved wrong I don’t mind because I don’t care much for the club, but real are going to make an example of PSG and if they don’t win the league, I bet it goes to the last game of the season. They are in good shape, despite the shortcomings on the pitch.

The moral boost this tournament gives is probably neutered by the fact that when Real return to Spain, they probably will find themselves 3 points further away from Barcelona, yeah with a game in hand, but that just means they won the game you have in hand so you need to win it when time comes due, adds more pressure in the league race.

And not only that, this is a break in the team training and they will play that in hand game in a tougher part of the season schedule-wise, if they won this world cup with authority, Ronaldo scoring 5 goals in 2 games and Real blazing through both matches I'd say they could come back stronger mentally in January, but as it was I think the little morale boost does nothing compared to the problems this title might bring them in the future.

What I’ve never understood about his feeekicks is why he doesn’t hit them with the technique here;



He clearly has the skill. The knuckleball technique is so hit and miss. He’s never came close to hitting it as perfectly as the one v Portsmouth, and I can’t help but think the attention that goal got is detriment to how he deems the best way to take free kicks now. The Sunderland one is better from a skill point of view, though obviously not as pleasing on the eye.


When it comes to a knuckleball, every shot you hit where the ball takes effect and has power is "perfectly" hit, the problem with that technique is that you're basically unable to aim it.

The shot depends on unpredictable ball effect so aiming it is not an option, you have to hit it well and pray it goes between the 3 posts, difference with a more technical hit like that one or the old-school one like Mihajlovic is that you are putting less power on the ball to improve accuracy, but keepers can predict the only spot you're sending 90% of your shots, unless you become Ronaldinho, who basically could change the angle of the goal he was aiming for without giving the GK a clue in his shooting form.

Still, if the knuckleball locks into a good direction, keepers have their chances to block it drastically reduced compared to a standard shot as it makes the ball a threat in the whole goal area, not just the corners. If you're looking for raw numbers and scoring, not just fine tuning, knuckleball may be a good option as the rest. Even professional catchers in the MLB have problems to catch knuckleballs from their pitchers, and those guys are basically trained their whole pro life for that specific purpose.

Also, it's probably next to impossible to alternate between a knuckleball/finesse style in the same game as they take different routines, first because changing between both might throw him out of the ideal shooting form, second because that means he'd have to train 2 types of FK instead of being specialized in one, and lastly because even if he managed to nail both routines to look similar in the approach to the ball (which might me detrimental to both shooting forms) any keeper with enough video footage could probably predict if he was shooting to "break" the ball or to aim it just by observing how he runs into the ball.

So, I guess when it comes to his decision he basically could've thought that if he wanted to go for volume and not quality like barely missing above the post, the knuckleball makes better use of his body (strong and long legs who act like a whip to shoot with more power) instead of pinpointing the ball, which could be easier to do with shorter legs (leaving Ronaldo with a natural disadvantage against shooters like Leo, Pirlo, etc).
 
The moral boost this tournament gives is probably neutered by the fact that when Real return to Spain, they probably will find themselves 3 points further away from Barcelona, yeah with a game in hand, but that just means they won the game you have in hand so you need to win it when time comes due, adds more pressure in the league race.

And not only that, this is a break in the team training and they will play that in hand game in a tougher part of the season schedule-wise, if they won this world cup with authority, Ronaldo scoring 5 goals in 2 games and Real blazing through both matches I'd say they could come back stronger mentally in January, but as it was I think the little morale boost does nothing compared to the problems this title might bring them in the future.



When it comes to a knuckleball, every shot you hit where the ball takes effect and has power is "perfectly" hit, the problem with that technique is that you're basically unable to aim it.

The shot depends on unpredictable ball effect so aiming it is not an option, you have to hit it well and pray it goes between the 3 posts, difference with a more technical hit like that one or the old-school one like Mihajlovic is that you are putting less power on the ball to improve accuracy, but keepers can predict the only spot you're sending 90% of your shots, unless you become Ronaldinho, who basically could change the angle of the goal he was aiming for without giving the GK a clue in his shooting form.

Still, if the knuckleball locks into a good direction, keepers have their chances to block it drastically reduced compared to a standard shot as it makes the ball a threat in the whole goal area, not just the corners. If you're looking for raw numbers and scoring, not just fine tuning, knuckleball may be a good option as the rest. Even professional catchers in the MLB have problems to catch knuckleballs from their pitchers, and those guys are basically trained their whole pro life for that specific purpose.

Also, it's probably next to impossible to alternate between a knuckleball/finesse style in the same game as they take different routines, first because changing between both might throw him out of the ideal shooting form, second because that means he'd have to train 2 types of FK instead of being specialized in one, and lastly because even if he managed to nail both routines to look similar in the approach to the ball (which might me detrimental to both shooting forms) any keeper with enough video footage could probably predict if he was shooting to "break" the ball or to aim it just by observing how he runs into the ball.

So, I guess when it comes to his decision he basically could've thought that if he wanted to go for volume and not quality like barely missing above the post, the knuckleball makes better use of his body (strong and long legs who act like a whip to shoot with more power) instead of pinpointing the ball, which could be easier to do with shorter legs (leaving Ronaldo with a natural disadvantage against shooters like Leo, Pirlo, etc).

It just confuses me that he has the ability to use a technique that more often than not, has increased accuracy (striking ball with part of the inside of his foot) but chooses the more unpredictable method of striking a free kick.

Clearly knows how to dictate the swerve of the ball when he wants, as opposed to relying on some weird ball physics and hoping like you say that it ends up between the three posts.

 
He must score or work the keeper alot in training or he wouldn’t be taking them all if he wasn’t. I’m sure ZZ wouldn’t carry on letting Ronaldo take all the freekicks if in Training he’s hitting the wall or sky high. Superstar or no superstar!
 
Despite his slow start this season, he still managed to score 20 goals in 25 matches in all competitions so far.
 
Despite his slow start this season, he still managed to score 20 goals in 25 matches in all competitions so far.
I honestly find it crazy when people/media start to criticize him when he doesn't score in a few games. The guy is human and can have mini droughts during seasons while always average a goal/per game all season long. He keeps proving it year after year and when he struggles there are people weirdly laughing at him. I'm not a fan of him but you can only respect what he's doing.
 
Despite his slow start this season, he still managed to score 20 goals in 25 matches in all competitions so far.

Where did you get this? It appears to me he's on 16. He has 9 in the CL league, 4 in the league, 2 in the club world cup and one in the Spanish supercup
 
I honestly find it crazy when people/media start to criticize him when he doesn't score in a few games. The guy is human and can have mini droughts during seasons while always average a goal/per game all season long. He keeps proving it year after year and when he struggles there are people weirdly laughing at him. I'm not a fan of him but you can only respect what he's doing.

Because that sells, a player like him won't forget how to score until he's past 35/36 years old, would probably bang 30+ or 40 even in 2021 or 2022.

What's gone and probably won't return is the Ronaldo of 50 or 60 goals at club level, the problem is that the next time he puts 3 on Atletico, Juve or Bayern (and he probably will) people will start talking about him being as good or better as when he was 28, he'll show in important games if Real manage not to suck, but it's probably the first time since his first season at Real that he has spent the last 12 months under a goal per game ratio.

His numbers remain impressive, but I always say I consider kind of an "insult" to his former self to say that he's on top of his game at 32, if his 28 y/o version had the amount of service he got from Real in the last two years, he would probably be challenging the 73 goals in a season record
 
Because that sells, a player like him won't forget how to score until he's past 35/36 years old, would probably bang 30+ or 40 even in 2021 or 2022.

What's gone and probably won't return is the Ronaldo of 50 or 60 goals at club level, the problem is that the next time he puts 3 on Atletico, Juve or Bayern (and he probably will) people will start talking about him being as good or better as when he was 28, he'll show in important games if Real manage not to suck, but it's probably the first time since his first season at Real that he has spent the last 12 months under a goal per game ratio.

His numbers remain impressive, but I always say I consider kind of an "insult" to his former self to say that he's on top of his game at 32, if his 28 y/o version had the amount of service he got from Real in the last two years, he would probably be challenging the 73 goals in a season record
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Because that sells, a player like him won't forget how to score until he's past 35/36 years old, would probably bang 30+ or 40 even in 2021 or 2022.

What's gone and probably won't return is the Ronaldo of 50 or 60 goals at club level, the problem is that the next time he puts 3 on Atletico, Juve or Bayern (and he probably will) people will start talking about him being as good or better as when he was 28, he'll show in important games if Real manage not to suck, but it's probably the first time since his first season at Real that he has spent the last 12 months under a goal per game ratio.

His numbers remain impressive, but I always say I consider kind of an "insult" to his former self to say that he's on top of his game at 32, if his 28 y/o version had the amount of service he got from Real in the last two years, he would probably be challenging the 73 goals in a season record


Spot on. Ironically he is more useful to Madrid now that he does less as he was a shoot on sight merchant and had the most shots for any forward since Opta started recording stats. Him doing less and Madrid winning more is a curious case. He was just behind Messi back then, now he is amongst the rest in terms of ability but as I said, it is better for madrid that he has less ability as he was a double edged sword.
 
Spot on. Ironically he is more useful to Madrid now that he does less as he was a shoot on sight merchant and had the most shots for any forward since Opta started recording stats. Him doing less and Madrid winning more is a curious case. He was just behind Messi back then, now he is amongst the rest in terms of ability but as I said, it is better for madrid that he has less ability as he was a double edged sword.
this is the stupidest post i've seen on the caf. Congratulations
 
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From reddit, numbers for the 2017 calendar year. Only showed up at his best for a couple of months, missed a bunch of easy games and at 32 years old can still very well end the year with more goals than anyone else on the planet.
 
What a great team we are, to make him score so many tap-ins :lol:

Jokes aside, would be curious to see the numbers for club alone 'cause he barely breaks 40 for us i think? Same with Lewa
 
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From reddit, numbers for the 2017 calendar year. Only showed up at his best for a couple of months, missed a bunch of easy games and at 32 years old can still very well end the year with more goals than anyone else on the planet.

:drool: @SirAF
 
What a great team we are, to make him score so many tap-ins :lol:

Jokes aside, would be curious to see the numbers for club alone 'cause he barely breaks 40 for us i think? Same with Lewa

No idea where I can check that but yeah, him and Lewandowski scored a lot in the qualifiers for the World Cup.
 
What a great team we are, to make him score so many tap-ins :lol:

Jokes aside, would be curious to see the numbers for club alone 'cause he barely breaks 40 for us i think? Same with Lewa
For 2017 :
Ronaldo 42
Lewa 45
Messi 51
 
That can't be true, Messi scored 3 for Argentina against Ecuador. If he has 53 total he couldn't have scored 51 for Barcelona.
I just added them up on ESPN (it's 230am here) so it's possible I've gotten +- 1 to 3 wrong for all of them.

PS: Messi Ronaldo are both on 53 club and country. I think Messi is 49-50 for Barcelona then.
 
Just realized i could check through wikipedia :lol:

anyways, Cris 42, messi 49, lewa 44, cavani 50
 
Absolutely atrocious performance from this guy, was probably RMs' worst player against Celta tonight.

Let's be honest here; CR7 has been utter dogshit throughout LaLiga campaign despite winning Ballon d'Or & #TheBest award.

We're in January and CR7 has scored a grand total of 3 non-penalty goals in LaLiga this season.

Even Paulinho (who's just a mere squad player for Barca) has comfortably outperformed him tbh.

Paulinho: 7 goals in 922 minutes.

Cristiano Ronaldo: 4 goals in 1156 minutes
 
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Absolutely atrocious performance from this guy, was probably RMs' worst player against Celta tonight.

Let's be honest here; CR7 has been utter dogshit throughout LaLiga campaign despite winning Ballon d'Or & #TheBest award.

We're in January and CR7 has scored a grand total of 3 non-penalty goals in LaLiga this season.

Even Paulinho (who's just a mere squad player for Barca) has comfortably outperformed him tbh.

Paulinho: 7 goals in 922 minutes.

Cristiano Ronaldo: 4 goals in 1156 minutes
Incredible stuff.

Ballon d'or should have went to Modric or Mbappe
 
It is insane how poor he have been this season. He is just not physically at the right level at all and he is missing so many chances. I struggle to explain what the reasons are for him being so poor this season. Here would be the key reasons in my view.

1 Physical decline and lack of a long pre season (Ronaldo is getting older and thus he need to work harder to maintain optimal fitness. Having played for Portugal in the confederations cup he might have come into the season in poor fitness and not managed to get it up to the right level.)

2 Lack of motivation (having won most things already he might lack motivations to push himself to the limit. Him normally being very driven to always perform and improve have been a big strenght. World cup should motivate him though so maybe he will improve soon enough)

3 Poor tactics ( the team not working could effect Ronaldo as well by not getting into the right areas at the right moment. If service is worse it will be harder to perform as well. Real Madrid as a team struggle and Ronaldo might struggle as a result)

4 Negative momentum and confidence ( him getting a poor start might be why he still struggles. There come doubts and confidence goes down and he keeps on missing chances. Messi starting the season on fire might have had a bad effect on Ronaldo in the personal battle they have.)
 
He’s not been as good because Madrid have been average. He relies on his team a lot more than someone like Messi does for service.
 
It really, really pains me to say this but I think he may finally be fading. Fully deserved the last Ballon d'or as well but just seeing him versus Celta Vigo was quite disappointing.

Then again, people wrote him out years ago and he came back to win 2 Ballon D'ors. This world cup will be massive for him.
 
No idea what's happened to show finishing this season. I've never seen a player miss this many easy chances in a season and I saw Andy Cole play.
 
From watching virtually every Madrid match this season, he doesn't seem much worse to me from a physical perspective than the last two years. Also, as good as he was as a goalscorer in the final two months of last season, his all around game wasn't too much better than it is now.

I remember the Bayern matches in particular (2nd leg especially) where he wasn't much of a factor in the general play at all but still managed to get on the end of five chances and finish them all off. The Spanish headlines after those games were all raving how about fit, athletic, and sharp he looked due to his new fitness regime that season, but the only difference to me was him finding another level of ruthlessness in the box and his teammates providing the right service.

In the league this season, Madrid are creating less chances (clear chances in particular) which is obviously hurting him significantly. Furthermore, just as his finishing at the end of last season was above his usual standards, this season it is well below for some reason.

He's obviously not going to go back to being a 60 goal per season winger that beats players for fun but I don't really see any reason why he can't continue as a 30-45 goal per season striker for another 1-2 years provided that the team and his finishing (which shouldn't be hurt by age too much) get back to their levels from recent seasons.
 
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I expected to see his little fanboys in this thread defending him (some weird obsession just because he played for us for 6 years), instead of admitting he's finished and criticising him.

Check this thread out on Bigsoccer.. it is Real Madrid fans calling him out for what he is:


http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/celta-vigo-real-madrid.2080255/page-6

Saying he's finished, should retire or go to the MLS.

These are die-hard Madridstas who watch every Real Madrid game the past years.. they know their onions.

Remember, Real Madrid gave this guy a contract until 36 years old. Jesus !
 
Real Madrid fans spitting the truth and doing some straight-shooting (not mincing their words! this is how you win trophies)

Real Madrid fans on Ronaldo this season:

Dropping Ronaldo is seemingly impossible but if he wasn't untouchable it's what exactly should be happening.

Ronaldo is ready to feature in next year's All Stars team.

Ronaldo looks like a over the hill Sunday league player out there.

And I don’t understand how one of the GOATs becomes this bad this quickly.

Except, he is declining for last 3-4 years which became highly visible in last season already which was saved by 2 months of scoring.

There’s declining, and then there’s falling off of a damn cliff.

[It's actually really worrying that we've given him a contract until 36. Imo this summer has the potential to seriously hurt Flo's status/image whatever you want to call it.

He needs to take a hard look at our attack and act accordingly.

MLS will be calling Cristiano. It is THAT bad. Marcelo should join him.

It's actually really worrying that we've given him a contract until 36.

Which is something anybody could see happening. When I see reports about him getting offers from other teams or PSG coming in to get him I am flabbergasted people would think they might be true.

We are going to be stuck with him for the next few years because nobody is going to offer such a contract to a 32 year old, especially untill he's 36. We did though.

I'm sure he'll score goals, but not to warrant his salary or his status in the team.

Ronaldo needs to go to the MLS. He can't hold onto the ball he loses it too easily and has a poor touch.. he is a liability right now. He's also lost his explosive pace which set him apart from other players.

I'm his biggest fan but he is deluded if he thinks he can play for Real Madrid AND Portugal until he's 40. The guy is way past it.

He needs to strike a deal with Major League Soccer to go after the World Cup. That would be best for all parties, I think.
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I expected to see his little fanboys in this thread defending him (some weird obsession just because he played for us for 6 years), instead of admitting he's finished and criticising him.

Check this thread out on Bigsoccer.. it is Real Madrid fans calling him out for what he is:


http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/celta-vigo-real-madrid.2080255/page-6

Saying he's finished, should retire or go to the MLS.

These are die-hard Madridstas who watch every Real Madrid game the past years.. they know their onions.

Remember, Real Madrid gave this guy a contract until 36 years old. Jesus !
Halfway through the season and he has 16 goals despite being banned for four matches in addition to him and the team going through their worst spell in years.

Considering that Zlatan was banging in 50 for PSG at 34 and well on his way to getting 40 for United at 35 until his knee injury despite playing alongside far worse players, I think people are way too quick to write Ronaldo off at the moment.

If Real Madrid were playing a champions league semi final at the Bernabeu next week, I don't think anyone would be too shocked if Ronaldo were to pop up with a hat trick. One wouldn't say that about a player who is finished.
 
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Any chance it's because he doesn't want to be there? It looked pretty clear he wanted to leave in the summer, so maybe he's just not giving as much as he would normally?
 
No idea what's happened to show finishing this season. I've never seen a player miss this many easy chances in a season and I saw Andy Cole play.

TBF he's always missed a lot of chances, he's just also had much more opportunities to score in past seasons.
 
His team may not even get past psg with that shoddy defense. Ronaldo may not have that luxury anymore.

Honestly I would be shocked if they beat PSG. For me, PSG are the best team in the world right now. I don't see a weakness in their team. Even guys who aren't 'household names' like Rabiot are absolutely tremendous footballers.
 
Honestly I would be shocked if they beat PSG. For me, PSG are the best team in the world right now. I don't see a weakness in their team. Even guys who aren't 'household names' like Rabiot are absolutely tremendous footballers.

I think PSG is going to have some defensive issues against the better teams in CL. They have an excellent attack but their backline can definitely get exposed.

But it's hard to deny how in form their front 3 are.

Any chance it's because he doesn't want to be there? It looked pretty clear he wanted to leave in the summer, so maybe he's just not giving as much as he would normally?

If he leaves Madrid his chances for another Ballon D'or are 100% over. The individual awards mean a lot to him so I can't see him leaving. Madrid should sell him while he still can fetch an obscene amount as he's already on the wrong side of 30.
 
He’ll peak for 3-4 matches in the UCL and bag another Balon d’Or, unless someone else pops up to really dominate & win the WC.

He’s found the winning strategy.
 
Ronaldo is trying to evolve into a striker position, sprinting less and conserving energy. He is having issues with it and hence is deservedly getting criticised, but to say he is finished is blowing it a bit as this is CR7. He dragged it back from 4 - 1 to 5 - 5 and made people eat their words, I think the same is going to happen this time around as well.