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how do you define world class though?Feels like it's been a case of waiting for Hazard to become truly world class for several seasons now....
I'd say he's arguably top 10 in the world.
how do you define world class though?Feels like it's been a case of waiting for Hazard to become truly world class for several seasons now....
how do you define world class though?
I'd say he's arguably top 10 in the world.
No he's not. It's also because Chelsea are just a superior team in general.tbf that may be true but when Hazard isn't playing/on form Chelsea look like half the team. He's the reason their attack is better than Arsenal's.
How did you end up with that conclusion considering Hazard stats aren't better, considering he has played 72 games more?
I wouldn't say it isn't close. But Sanchez has been better. What gives him the edge is his mentality. In a big game on the bigger stage I'd rather have Sanchez in my team.I was inclined to say Hazard, but comparing their last three seasons it's not even close, overall Alexis had a much bigger impact and played significantly better since he came to the Premier League.
Me too. The main reason being he scores more goals than Hazard. Hazard is a silkier dribbler and is beautiful to watch but Sanchez is more decisive.I have always suggested Sanchez was better than Hazard.
he definitely is. they're just a far better side when he's in it.No he's not. It's also because Chelsea are just a superior team in general.
Not all about those stats, I think Hazard is a better all-round player and much more skillfull. Just posting stats so people can come up with their own opinion. It's obviously very close regardless of the minutes per goal & assist, as the poll suggests (with Hazard getting more votes so far). I'd also like to wager that before we were interested in signing Sanchez, Hazard would've won any vote by a landslide.How did you end up with that conclusion considering Hazard stats aren't better, considering he has played 72 games more?
End product isn't comparable because Hazard is a better playmaker.Yeah, stats wise Sanchez wins it. 107 mins per G+A for Sanchez vs 150 mins per G+A for Hazard, also Hazard scored 10 more penalties than Sanchez.
I wouldn't say it isn't close. But Sanchez has been better. What gives him the edge is his mentality. In a big game on the bigger stage I'd rather have Sanchez in my team.
I'd pick Hazard in general though as he's younger and has a higher ceiling.
Copa America > club titlesbehave you cheeky fecker.
Ah I thought you meant his La Liga title!Copa America > club titles
I agree 100%, but since the question was "who is better" I still go for AlexisI wouldn't say it isn't close. But Sanchez has been better. What gives him the edge is his mentality. In a big game on the bigger stage I'd rather have Sanchez in my team.
I'd pick Hazard in general though as he's younger and has a higher ceiling.
End product isn't comparable because Hazard is a better playmaker.
Stats for comparison, because everyone loves stats (Premier League only):
Hazard
Appearances: 194
Goals: 65
Assists: 37
Sanchez
Appearances: 122
Goals: 60
Assists: 25
I'd say Hazard is better to be honest, but Sanchez seems to have a better end product.
No chance. If you have a better team in general then it is factuality incorrect to claim the attack or team is better because of one player. Chelsea are better mentally and in football ability than Arsenal. It has been the case for years and across the pitch. If Hazard was such a phenomenal player to take his team beyond what other top players can, alone, his international performance wouldn't lag far behind Sanchez's.he definitely is. they're just a far better side when he's in it.
Agreed.I agree 100%, but since the question was "who is better" I still go for Alexis
I don't know the full statistics, but I believe around 13 penalties scored for Hazard. However, I would also argue that he 'won' most of those penaltiesHow many non-penalty goals are in that Hazard’s stat?
Sanchez is the better player every day of the week. We tend to underrate our own players a lot. Sanchez is hands down better, the only attribute Hazard has over Sanchez is dribbling.
No he's not. You can say he's better at keeping possession and moving the ball, but he's certainly not a better attacking playmaker. To begin with, he doesn't even try as much as AlexisEnd product isn't comparable because Hazard is a better playmaker.
Chelsea's attack is nothing special without Hazard in it. He's definitely the reason they're better than Arsenal's. Disagree if you want but your reasoning is pretty bizarre and contradictory.No chance. If you have a better team in general then it is factuality incorrect to claim the attack or team is better because of one player. Chelsea are better mentally and in football ability than Arsenal. It has been the case for years and across the pitch. If Hazard was such a phenomenal player to take his team beyond what other top players can, alone, his international performance wouldn't lag far behind Sanchez's.
Also every team is "far better" with their best player.
Not all about those stats, I think Hazard is a better all-round player and much more skillfull. Just posting stats so people can come up with their own opinion. It's obviously very close regardless of the minutes per goal & assist, as the poll suggests (with Hazard getting more votes so far). I'd also like to wager that before we were interested in signing Sanchez, Hazard would've won any vote by a landslide.
However, despite whatever I say and anyone else, I'm still of the opinion that Sanchez is the better signing for our team.
But you said Sanchez has it all to prove, I'm sorry but that just seems ridiculous, Sanchez has proven it a lot for Arsenal in his time there. It seems your only barometer for "proving it" is winning a PL medal, in which case I guess Shearer never proved it at Newcastle either, or Gerrard or Suarez at Pool?
Has Sanchez "proven" it as much as Hazard, probably not, but he's certainly proven himself to be a great PL player.
What does this even mean? In both of our recent title winning seasons he was consistently our best player most weeks. Likewise this season. He very rarely "doesn't turn up." Consistently plays very well against the big sides as well.I think Hazard on his day, but Sanchez turns up a lot more than Hazard does.
Yeah, I'd still take Sanchez over Hazard at United. Because I feel we need that extra goal threat more than anything else. However, I expect if there was a team of the season vote, more often than not, Hazard would get the nod. Maybe it's because Chelsea are more successful than Arsenal and he's a big part of that, thus the reason that this view is the more popular one.well as roonster pointed out in terms of stats Sanchez wins it and it's not even close. He clocks 107 mins per G/A, whilst Hazard does the same scoring 10 penos more for 150 mins per g/a.
I'd definitely take Sanchez in the attacking third. Sure Hazard is the better playmaker, but as an overall impact Sanchez for me.
Actually it's your reasoning that falls completely flat. In fact the sentences you quoted don't even contradict each other. I'd like to see you prove how they do. A) Hazard alone isn't the reason Chelsea or their attack is better. B) Every team improves when their best player is available. Now point out the contradiction there? Thanks.Chelsea's attack is nothing special without Hazard in it. He's definitely the reason they're better than Arsenal's. Disagree if you want but your reasoning is pretty bizarre and contradictory.
Obviously Chelsea have a better team than Arsenal because they have a better midfield and defense, comfortably, but attacking wise there's really not much in it if you take out Hazard and Sanchez. They have the exact same amount of goals scored this season and drew with each other twice!
Neither as good as Coutinho.
Feels like it's been a case of waiting for Hazard to become truly world class for several seasons now....
You mean the last 3 seasons where Hazard was the best player on 2 title winning sides? What am I reading here? In Sanchez's best season in England it was Hazard that won player of the year.I was inclined to say Hazard, but comparing their last three seasons it's not even close, overall Alexis had a much bigger impact and played significantly better since he came to the Premier League.
Neither as good as Coutinho.
He's improved a little bit from those times though so their opinions don't hold more weight than all the ones from the PL viewers who have witnessed him become a better player at Arsenal. It'd be like me saying something on the player Hazard used to be at Lille in order to judge the player he is now. Much has changed.Sanchez is not the elite player you think he is. There was a poll on a Barca forum 1 month ago whether to get Sanchez back on a free. Almost 50 % said "no" and another 35 % said "only if he accepts the bench". Should tell you a lot from a fanbase that saw him play for them for 3 seasons.
He was a bad fit for them and was grossly mismanaged on top of itSanchez is not the elite player you think he is. There was a poll on a Barca forum 1 month ago whether to get Sanchez back on a free. Almost 50 % said "no" and another 35 % said "only if he accepts the bench". Should tell you a lot from a fanbase that saw him play for them for 3 seasons.