Neymar Jr | PSG | 2017/2018 performances

He's stupidly close to 2 Goals / assists per game.
Im sorry but the numbers are so good they really do need a *French league clarification.
 
Messi in his prime wasn't putting up almost 2G/A's a game ffs:lol:. Common sense, the league isn't that good. I think the co-efficients would support that view.



Edit: If Messi was putting up those numbers then he is the GOAT. Indisputably.
 
Messi in his prime wasn't putting up almost 2G/A's a game ffs:lol:. Common sense, the league isn't that good. I think the co-efficients would support that view.



Edit: If Messi was putting up those numbers then he is the GOAT. Indisputably.


Neymar this season has 26 goals and 14 assists (not 16) in 24 games = 1.67 goals+assists per game
Messi in 2011/12 had 73 goals and 29 assists in 60 games = 1.70 goals+assists per game
 
He's stupidly close to 2 Goals / assists per game.
Im sorry but the numbers are so good they really do need a *French league clarification.

You're right and I have to say your clarification was the welcome.

I even believe he is a weak player whose stats are overrated.

The French league makes good any poor player.

Not good enough to score goals elsewhere btw
 
Stats mean nothing in football. If they were what mattered teams wouldn’t bother with scouts and would just use data to get their transfer targets.

I agree with you.

Soooo many fantastic scorers and offensive players haven't good stats.

Of course, I don't have some names in mind but it's possible.

LOOL
 
You're right and I have to say your clarification was the welcome.

He is a weak player whose stats are overrated.

Not good enough to score goals elsewhere.

He would score a lot elsewhere as well, but he didn't come close to those stats in La Liga, and he wouldn't come close in the PL.
 
@Ecstatic
No, you're correct. He's better than Messi and Ronaldo combined and in no way would he struggle to top these numbers playing for PSV in Holland never mind French football.
Nobody saw this coming. Nobody. He has astounded the critics.
 
I was listening to Bill Simmons the other day and I kind of agree. Neymar is going to play a World Cup in his absolute prime, while the other top two players are past 30 years old. That's the only unfortunate thing about how spaced out the World Cup is, you could miss the entire prime of a player. Like, if Messi could play the world cup in 2011, 2012 things might've been different. You can also have these perfect storm scenarios for 1 player like Neymar is going to have. And there's also the injury factor. (Which Neymar suffered from in 2014).

I think we could witness a frightening year from Neymar (winning treble, WC and Ballon D'Or). Physically right now he has a huge advantage over the other two big names. He's got that 'get off me' pace that Henry had circa 2003/4 or Ronaldo in 2008. Let's see if luck is on his side and he can translate it to big titles.
 
It was always going to be the case that all he did in the league would have an asterisk next to it. Only way to remove it is to perform in the Chmapions League and most importantly in the World Cup.
 
@Ecstatic
No, you're correct. He's better than Messi and Ronaldo combined and in no way would he struggle to top these numbers playing for PSV in Holland never mind French football.
Nobody saw this coming. Nobody. He has astounded the critics.

Let's agree to disagree here.

PSV Eindhoven is the former club of Romario and Ronaldo.

Nobody can beat Ronaldo :drool:
 
He would score a lot elsewhere as well, but he didn't come close to those stats in La Liga, and he wouldn't come close in the PL.

You're right. That said, calendar year 2015: 43 goals in 56 games with Barcelona.

It's obvious he will score more in France because

1. PSG is largely superior to the other teams
2. He can score via penalties
3. He can enjoy a lot of freedom from a tactical standpoint
4. 2016/17 wasn't an excellent season and he seems to be in a good mood in view of the World Cup
 
That's the only unfortunate thing about how spaced out the World Cup is, you could miss the entire prime of a player.

Good point. If your otherwise good NT is unlucky, being on the end of a once-in-a-lifetime upset, you're looking at an 8-year gap. That's almost an entire footballing career.
 
Club football is a better measure of a player for numerous reasons.

Yeah, but would Maradona be as revered if he had "just" guided Napoli to the Scudetto, and not Argentina to the '86 World cup (and the 1990 final)? Take away his solo goal against England, and you'll take away half his legacy.
 
Yeah, but would Maradona be as revered if he had "just" guided Napoli to the Scudetto, and not Argentina to the '86 World cup (and the 1990 final)? Take away his solo goal against England, and you'll take away half his legacy.

It isn’t black and white of course but the World Cup is a 7 game tournament that happens every four years where the quality of your team mates depends on where and when you are born.

If a player puts in an amazing tournament like Maradona then of course it means a very lot.
 
Yeah, but would Maradona be as revered if he had "just" guided Napoli to the Scudetto, and not Argentina to the '86 World cup (and the 1990 final)? Take away his solo goal against England, and you'll take away half his legacy.

Agree.
 
He is a monster. The only player above him atm is Messi but Messi is a freak.

The only difference in La Liga is that he was missing sitter after sitter set up for him by Messi. He was still fantastic last season. He does need a CL or WC to win the Ballon D'or as clearly winning just a league is not enough. he also has the marketing which is 50% of it as well.
 
He would score a lot elsewhere as well, but he didn't come close to those stats in La Liga, and he wouldn't come close in the PL.
Playing next to Messi and Suarez actually detracted from his stats more than it added to them, but either way, y'all getting too focused on the league and not enough on the team he plays for. Would he put up such numbers playing for Monaco? And would he not put up sucg numbers playing for City?
 
Playing next to Messi and Suarez actually detracted from his stats more than it added to them, but either way, y'all getting too focused on the league and not enough on the team he plays for. Would he put up such numbers playing for Monaco? And would he not put up sucg numbers playing for City?

Perhaps. A score record in the French league still is something that most people don't care about. Even Zlatan's impressive record is mostly ignored.
 
Playing next to Messi and Suarez actually detracted from his stats more than it added to them, but either way, y'all getting too focused on the league and not enough on the team he plays for. Would he put up such numbers playing for Monaco? And would he not put up sucg numbers playing for City?

TBH he was missing sitter after sitter despite the amount of one on ones that Barcelona created for him.
 
Great record....but with that league there’s always going to be questions asked it’s a fecking part time league, the bottom 10 teams must be championship standard at best.
 
Pretty pleased we're not up against PSG yet. Big months ahead for the Brazilian. Beat Real, and he'll make headlines. Exit, and he'll be ridiculed as a big fish in a small pond.
 
Pretty pleased we're not up against PSG yet. Big months ahead for the Brazilian. Beat Real, and he'll make headlines. Exit, and he'll be ridiculed as a big fish in a small pond.
So much riding on that match.

Madrid win an Emery if he isn't getting sacked will be for sure if PSG lose, Neymar will have to win the WC to achieve his Ballon D'or dream

If Madrid lose, Zidane is finished and there will be a massive reshuffle in the summer. CRonaldo will probably be sold.

French man managing the biggest Spanish team, Spanish man managing the biggest French team.
 
So much riding on that match.

Yeah, this is the reason Neymar went to Paris. Being the main man - and now he needs to show that he's a leader, a talisman, a match winner against the very best (I still consider Real to be able to show their experience and progress through sheer determination and knowhow alone)

If Madrid lose, Zidane is finished and there will be a massive reshuffle in the summer. CRonaldo will probably be sold.

How good will this summer be, knowing that we'll get one or two high quality players in (we've probably made initial contact, if not already closing the deals), while Real desperately tries to offload their 30+ deadwood. They might be successful - let's face it, after all they're Real Madrid with an incredible pulling power - but as long as they don't get De Gea, I'm not too bothered about them.

As for PSG and Neymar, it doesn't really matter if he's living in one of the most amazing cities in the world. He really, really needs success in the CL. If not, he'll always be known as the talented Brazilian who couldn't hack it in the best competition in the world.
 
So much riding on that match.

Madrid win an Emery if he isn't getting sacked will be for sure if PSG lose, Neymar will have to win the WC to achieve his Ballon D'or dream

If Madrid lose, Zidane is finished and there will be a massive reshuffle in the summer. CRonaldo will probably be sold.

French man managing the biggest Spanish team, Spanish man managing the biggest French team.

Very well put, it's going to be a thriller. Real Madrid seems more dangerous now as the Champion's League is the only source of redemption for their season.
 
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PSG have closer competition in Lyon, Marseille and Monaco than Bayern Munich currently do in any of their rivals. Ligue 1 isn’t quite as strong as La Liga or the Premier League but anyone thinking it’s poor is wrong.
 
Playing next to Messi and Suarez actually detracted from his stats more than it added to them, but either way, y'all getting too focused on the league and not enough on the team he plays for. Would he put up such numbers playing for Monaco? And would he not put up sucg numbers playing for City?

Agree, his best form for Barca was that spell around October-November 2015 when Messi was injured.
 
PSG have closer competition in Lyon, Marseille and Monaco than Bayern Munich currently do in any of their rivals. Ligue 1 isn’t quite as strong as La Liga or the Premier League but anyone thinking it’s poor is wrong.


There’s a massive drop in quality further down the league, mid to bottom table teams are just making up the numbers in France they’re at a very low standard.

Memphis Depay is almost at a 1 goal in every 2 games ratio in France....that’s all I need to know.
 
Playing next to Messi and Suarez actually detracted from his stats more than it added to them, but either way, y'all getting too focused on the league and not enough on the team he plays for. Would he put up such numbers playing for Monaco? And would he not put up sucg numbers playing for City?
Good point.
 
As for PSG and Neymar, it doesn't really matter if he's living in one of the most amazing cities in the world. He really, really needs success in the CL. If not, he'll always be known as the talented Brazilian who couldn't hack it in the best competition in the world.
Are you talking about Ronaldo? Neymar already won the CL.
 
Are you talking about Ronaldo? Neymar already won the CL.

And was the top scorer in the CL that season as well. Didn't score a lot of the important goals in that run but he, Suarez, Messi and Iniesta (in the KO games) were what won it for them that year.

He is a great player that I love to watch but all his histrionics wind me up. I don't mind a player buying fouls or going to ground if carrying on gives no advantage but he acts like a bitch with it. Does hold on to the ball a bit long at times too but other than that he's outstanding and the 2nd best player in the world for me.