So you fancied some of the City fans then?
Manchester City 17/18 discussion | "If you're here for the Champions clap your hands" (#6505)
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Not really. But they stand out. They're always surrounded by a myriad of empty seats and waving at the camera when it pans through the crowd.
The typical glam girl look.
Seen this at least 3 times over the past 2 months. Genuinely believe they're being paid to be there.
Looks like they are human after all.They've looked a bit tired of late not today mind but competing for 4 cups was bound to take its toll.
Brit tarts?
That exit is on Pep, he rested too many key players from the starting lineup. One of the crucial changes was the appearance of Bravo for Ederson, Bravo is like actively trying to destabilize his defense, always getting his front people into trobule.
City have been great this season but not great enough to win all trophies. They don't deserve to win the quadruple and will struggle to win the CL with defenders prone of brain farts. Most of them are English: shocking mistakes by Delph and Walker and Stones was a liability too.
I would not say that they have been great at all this season, great is such a high bar to be at, they have merely been good.
Being undefeated in the Champions League, now that is a great achievement, something that City have not been able to ever say that they have done so, whilst we can say that.
Why?
There's no rule as to what consists of a treble.
There are no rules but THE treble consists of three most important trophies for the season..a general conception.
Of course, for Liverpool and spurs, there's a net spend trophy so don't know what's their definition of a treble
If city win the league with close to 100 points (as I think they will) and also the league cup, they would have had a better season than the invincibles.
Yes indeed, there is a huge difference between doing "a" treble, and doing "the" treble.
It is simply impossible for City to do the treble this season.
Maybe so, but they would be waaaayyyyy behind our 99 team's achievements.
Maybe. I agree that the quality of the treble would be different but winning those three trophies would make it a pretty remarkable season.
They are going to be in a discussion for the best PL team ever regardless.
Doing any kind of treble is very difficult for any English club, the domestic competitions being too competitive. When you see Juve, Barca, Bayern, Psg easily winning the local trophies, you realize how much difficult it is for English clubs to win both Carabao and Fa cup where there are 6 teams equally capable of winning either.
I don't disagree.
They're not winning the Champions League either so they're not even going to do "a" treble.
They have to be one of the favorites for it.
I wonder what way the media will react if they lose the League Cup final?
If they do that I'll put them 3rd after invincibles and treble team. Still winning a league as competitive as EPL without a single defeat is a remarkable achievement that not anything can eclipse it IMO.
Chelsea's 04-05 team and our 06-07 team were more impressive. That Arsenal side was better at getting draws.
The invincibles team were not good enough to retain their title or long lasting success. In fact Arsenal haven't won the league since. If the side was so great, what happened to them?
Yes a pretty remarkable season, but similar to when Liverpool did a treble of trophies, that is all that it would be, a series of three trophies, but not the treble.
In the discussion yes, but the outcome would be that they simply would not be the best.
I agree with you there.
Why so?? They do not have any sort of history in this competition, so why would they be more likely to win it then say Barcelona or even ourselves?
I mentioned these both Chelsea teams in top 5 best teams in premier league history, since IMO they changed many things regarding English football, from financial support to tactical setup and the fast start of the league.
Still since no one else managed to go a whole season undefeated in the league it's still something unique. I know that Arsenal basically sacrificed everything else to keep that record, and that's why I favor our treble team over them, as we showed consistency in 3 major trophies in which we faced some very strong teams but still find it hard for any other team to eclipse that achievement easily.
My order :
United 99
Invincibles
Chelsea 2005-2006
United 2008
Chelsea 2010
Chelsea 2017
Depending on what City will do this season they can rank in top 5, let's see.
City and Barca have been clearly the two best sides in Europe this season so far. City/Barca and the winner of Real/PSG have to be the favorites.
Hardly care tbh. When I talk about best teams in premier league seasons I talk about a certain team in a specific season. I don't care what our treble team did before or after that 99 season, I only rate them based on that 99 season.
Hilarious game.
Nevertheless some people in this thread really want to jinx it with their celebrations. Start with that when City is eliminated from the CL.
Let's not kid ourselves, the FA cup is a footnote compare to the UCL.
Nevertheless some people in this thread really want to jinx it with their celebrations. Start with that when City is eliminated from the CL.
Let's not kid ourselves, the FA cup is a footnote compare to the UCL.
That Arsenal team never lost but finished with 90 points.
Imo, people exaggerate that team.
I'd rather lose some matches and finish with 99/100 points.
I make them favourites tbh
PSG? In terms of fire power the only side who can match City and they're probably going out and even if they don't they've just lost to a Real Madrid side having a bad season
Real Madrid? As above having a bad domestic season, stop Ronaldo stop Madrid?
Bayern? Not the force they were a couple of years ago
Barca? Probably the favourites along with City, not sure defensively they're better than City though and not sure they have the amount of fire power City have either
Spurs/Liverpool? Arguably the best equipped to stop City but even both of those sides shipped a combined 9 goals at the Etihad this season
I obviously hope to be proved wrong but I cant really look past City for the UCL and even if they dont win it this year they're bound to win it soon
Any team with Messi has of course the firepower.
I don't understand why they're rated so highly, they got fewer points than Jose' Chelsea.
Real's domestic season seem to have very little to do with how they do in the CL.
Barca don't have the fire power?
only 1 City attacker can get into the Barca team IMO.Played better football, arguably man for man had better players. Most pundits regard Jose's 2005 side right up there with ours and Arsenal's best though
Dunno about that Spurs battered them
Barca don't have the fire power?
That being? I'd say Aguero, Sane, De Bruyne and Silva all have more than a shot at getting into this current Barca side
Chelsea 04/05 - P38 W29 D8 L1 G72-15 (+57) - 95
Arsenal 03/04 - P38 W26 D12 L0 G73-26 (+47) - 90
That Chelsea side won more games, had a much better goal difference and got 5 more points, only scored 1 fewer goal. It was much better than the unbeaten Arse side.
Aguero ahead of Suarez?
Sane, Silva ahead of Coutinho?
De Bruyne is the only one who'd get in that side.
That's fair enough if that's your opinion, personally I rate the Arsenal side more.
Suarez looks to have declined massively every time I see him
Depends on where Barca play Coutinho, will they play him wide on the right or as part of a midfield 3?
Arsenal drew about 12 games in the league that season, Chelsea in their highest points season drew only about 5 and lost 1.
That Chelsea team and season was better imo. Finishing on a higher points tally and drawing significantly less is way better than not losing a game and drawing a lot, even though Chelsea only lost 1.
Suarez form has been extremely erratic over the last months, pretty sure there are alot of Barca fans that'd trade him for another proven striker like Agüero who probably still has one or two years more left at top level. Sané could also very well start ahead of Dembélé with the latter not exactly having set the world alight even when he was fit and was playing, even though that wasn't too many games.
That being said I'd still rate Barca/Real way ahead of City, even Bayern too.
That being said I'd still rate Barca/Real way ahead of City, even Bayern too.