Jets making a move
Makes things easier for the Browns picking between a QB and Barkley I suppose.
Makes things easier for the Browns picking between a QB and Barkley I suppose.
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Love how blunt NFL teams are with this.
Killer for the Bills especially and maybe the Broncos. Basically means they have to try and trade up to 2 if they want one of the top QBs. Great deal for the Colts as well, they'll be at least one or two studs available at 6 and they get more second rounders to help the rebuild.
I’m still expectant of the Giants trading down (unless they plan on taking a QB).
Browns could also trade back from 4 depending on what the Bills or Broncos or Cards or whoever would be willing to pay.
Browns could also trade back from 4 depending on what the Bills or Broncos or Cards or whoever would be willing to pay.
Terrible move by Jets
There are 4 QBs to choose from so its likely that each of the top 5 will get one of them assuming Barkley also goes in the top 5.
Think there is a big gap between the best three qbs (Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield) and Josh Allen.
They are more or less the same. I've seen Allen going at #1 in various mocks. He's seen as a potential Carson Wentz type.
Your list is kind of funny because the best NCAA QB is without any doubt Lamar Jackson and then Mayfield, the others have a lot to prove and improve.
My point being that none of these QBs are close to be reliable.
Wentz had a 62.5 competition percentage in his last year of college compared to Josh Allen's 56%. They are around the same physically but Wentz was streets ahead when he came out of college.
Yeah true, but we can't extrapolate that into the pros. There are other characteristics in terms of mentality, arm strength, aptitude to read defensive schemes, whether they are stable personalities etc that are in play when teams make their assessments.
His arm strength is great no question but that completion percentage would be a huge red flag, I can't think of any QBs in the last 20 years who've had a completion percentage that low in their final year of college and turned it around in the pros. His team had a low drop % as well this year so you can't even blame that.
I'm guessing if he goes top 5 that this will be taken into consideration by those who are interested. I don't expect him to throw in the 50s in the pros just as I don't expect Mayfield to replicate his low 70s percentage in the pros. Accuracy can be improved based on how well a QB can make reads and adjustments as well as by how whether an offensive coordinator calls shorter or longer passes.
Sure but he's going to need a lot of work and I can't think of a top five pick (even including non-QBs) who had that big an issue coming into the draft. That's why I'd consider trading up if I were the Broncos, the three I mentioned above might need time before they are ready but they are a lot closer than Allen and a lot less likely to be busts.
I think Elway is after Rosen, but I'm not sure if the Broncos are going to want to trade up to get anyone for the simple reason that Chubb and Barkley are in play within the top 5, which even if you think Allen isn't going in the top 5, would still leave one of Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield
Didn’t the Broncos sign Case Keenum? Drafting a QB is no longer a necessity for them.
They still need a long term QB just like the Browns do despite getting Tyrod Taylor. Getting an experienced QB just helps spread the risk for the Broncos so they aren't forced into a situation where their new young QB is forced to produce immediately.
Big risk though. If a team like the Bills trade up to 2 or 4 or the Giants go for a QB then you miss out.
That's a risk calculus Elways going to have to weigh. It all depends how desprate he is to take a particular QB. I can't see Chubb falling out of the top 5 and Barkley's draft rating has soared since the combine so its likely one of them would still be there. That said, if Elway rates Allen then he is guaranteed to get one of the top 4 QBs
At this point in time Keenum isn't a franchise QB and it's reflected by the contract they gave him, two years.
Odd move
Yeah, this QB class is interesting as advertised, but that doesn't mean it's great.
Every chance the 4th or 5th one taken will be the best in the end.
With so many QBs expected to go high in the draft, probably 4 in the top ten, teams that dont need a QB will be delighted:
Colts
Bucs
Bears
49ers
Raiders
Colts
Bucs
Bears
49ers
Raiders
It is a deep QB class buy I’m not that impressed by any of them. Don’t think any will be as good as Deshaun Watson.
Done deal.
There were doubts about Watson before the draft too, I think no one expected him to be as good as he was. It's certainly possible one of those four QBs will hit the ground running, but how many would even be starting QBs from the beginning... The one who ends up in Cleveland won't, same goes for the Giants if they draft one, and Keenum will start over whoever the Broncos draft.
I think it might be good for them to learn a year from a HOFer like Manning for example, even if it's just about work ethic and competitiveness. They all have their flaws and no one knows which one will end up being the best, but teams will surely have their designated choice by now I'd think.
I'm thinking the Jets want Mayfield. But signing Bridgewater may pay off in the long run if he's fully recovered.
They could shock everyone and go Barkley (if not taken in top two) or Bradley Chubb.
They could shock everyone and go Barkley (if not taken in top two) or Bradley Chubb.
Wow. He won't stay unemployed for long.
Bridgewater has become a better player the longer he has been injured. He was a promising QB, nothing more, when he got injured. By the time he returned he was being talked about like he had been the face of the Vikings
The Owen Hargreaves effect™.
Hargreaves was a really good player. He was brilliant for us.
Giants drafting Chubb?
He is on a relatively big contract, it would have been a better idea to throw everything at Wilkerson or Richardson.
Already looking forward to how the Bucs are going to manage to make a complete feck up of a D-Line containing JPP, Vinny Curry, Gerald McCoy, Beau Allen, Lavonte David, Kwon Alexander and Kendell Beckwith with Noah Spence on the sideline.