Cristiano Ronaldo - performances 2017/18

The Messi vs Ronaldo debate is hard enough, adding in different generation players in Pele and Maradona makes it even harder. That debate will be a subjective one and probably better to take to the Messi vs Ronaldo thread. For me personally, not having seen Maradona and Pele much, Messi and Ronaldo are both at the top for me.

And I’d have no issue with Ronaldo being second place all time, I haven’t seen Maradona in his prime either I just assume he’s in the top 3 worst case based on most GOAT lists
 
Santos actually came to Europe and beat Benfica with Eusebio at that time, I think great players would play well anywhere, it doesn't make sense the people who say Pele wouldn't do well in europe right


Pele would have done great in today's era, let alone 1950s.
He was a player way ahead of his time, and on raw talent alone, he is the complete attacker ever, aerial prowess, finishing, play making, passing and dribbling of top order along with his ridiculous tactical awareness, difficult to find anyone like him.
 
He wanted to come to Madrid, it wasn't a question about money.

Of course it was about money. If it wasn’t about money he wouldn’t renegotiate his contract every two years. There’s way too much money involved to say players just play for the badge. They are professionals with a short carreer span, and will do everything they can to maximize their earnings. Nothing wrong with that.
 
Btw anyone would take Cris at United now?

as at start of the season, most of us didn't wanted him:lol:

On a 5 year contract at 600k per week, and paying Madrid 200million for him? I still wouldn’t want him back.

When Madrid agrees to sells him, you can bet your house he will decline within a year or two.
 
On a 5 year contract at 600k per week, and paying Madrid 200million for him? I still wouldn’t want him back.

When Madrid agrees to sells him, you can bet your house he will decline within a year or two.

Usually United offers players above 29 years old one year contracts, with his ego Ronaldo wouldn't accept anything less than a 4 year contract...
 
Nope. The mistake was not offering him a better contract and keeping him. There is no reason United shouldn’t be at least at the same level as Barsa & RM. What we really need to stop is accepting a feeder club mentality.

It wasn't money. This isn't FM.
 
Ronaldo said it wasn't money. He told SAF he wanted to go to his dream club at his house, and we got another year out of him. We won that championship, and then got a then record fee. I can appreciate him at a far, and I am happy he did so well leaving. We need to look ahead to the future, and build a new dynasty instead of thinking negative to a player that help when us boat loads of trophies.
 
Of course it was about money. If it wasn’t about money he wouldn’t renegotiate his contract every two years. There’s way too much money involved to say players just play for the badge. They are professionals with a short carreer span, and will do everything they can to maximize their earnings. Nothing wrong with that.

In a parallel universe, it would be interesting to see whether Woodward could have made Ronaldo an offer he couldn't refuse. Personally, though (and unpalatable as this may be to a United fan), I think Ronaldo, at the age of 24 and approaching his peak years, saw RM as affording a bigger stage on which to develop his legacy as one of the greats. Any lingering doubts were maybe removed by the fact that Ferguson, his mentor and main point of attachment to Unted, was already past normal retirement age and could be stepping down any time soon.
 
Of course it was about money. If it wasn’t about money he wouldn’t renegotiate his contract every two years.
That's Messi. Cristiano renegotiated his contract twice in 8 years. This is the third time we're discussing his contract, and it all stems from a promise by Perez in Cardiff

Btw. 2.23 meters high :lol:
 
Where’s that Juve fan who really hates him, Vialli something? He was probably shouting at his screen for the Juve fans in the stadium to stop clapping.
 
That's Messi. Cristiano renegotiated his contract twice in 8 years. This is the third time we're discussing his contract, and it all stems from a promise by Perez in Cardiff

Btw. 2.23 meters high :lol:

Phenomenal :lol:
 
Where’s that Juve fan who really hates him, Vialli something? He was probably shouting at his screen for the Juve fans in the stadium to stop clapping.

He said he's already forgotten about the goal(he said earlier he won't remember Ronaldo in 10-15 years either).

Must have been an awful night for him.
 
His goal scoring record in Knock out stages is just insane. Don't think that will be beaten anytime soon. He has scored around 50 goals in KO rounds only and only 5 players have scored more than 50 goals in CL till date.

He is just a machine. 23 goals and 5 assists in his last 12 games.
 
Nope. The mistake was not offering him a better contract and keeping him. There is no reason United shouldn’t be at least at the same level as Barsa & RM. What we really need to stop is accepting a feeder club mentality.

Sorry but doesn't work like that, we could be at the same level all we wanted (we're not btw, not even then) but when it comes to foreign players, they would rather be living in Madrid/Catalonia, than they would in Manchester. Especially Latino players.

Money is not always the main motivator.
 
Shows how far talent and hard work takes you, i and probably every united fan wishes he was still here. I just hope talents from our team like martial/pogba/Rashford etc all see how it is hard work and only hard work along with natural talent that will take them to a world class level. Crying to the media and relying on Martial Fc will take them the Nani route.
 
We had no option to keep him, it was only his loyalty to Fergie that kept him that extra season. It’s hard to get a good price on a player that wants out.
 
Sorry but doesn't work like that, we could be at the same level all we wanted (we're not btw, not even then) but when it comes to foreign players, they would rather be living in Madrid/Catalonia, than they would in Manchester. Especially Latino players.

Money is not always the main motivator.

I think it's a combination of wages, football history, culture and as stupid as it sounds, weather.

We need to offer soo much more money to neutralize that. Simply offer silly money that Barsa and Madrid will be hesitant to match.
 
Greatest CL player of all time.
Greatest goal scorer if all time.
Greatest European player of all time.
Can barely watch him without getting angry.
Real Madrid have essentially bought 3CLs, 2 league titles, countless cups and 500 goals for £80m.
While we are wallowing in mediocrity.

So? Should we have made him stay? Come on.
 
Now that was a truly great performance.
Already had a better CL run than in 15/16 even if they end up not winning.
 
Btw anyone would take Cris at United now?

as at start of the season, most of us didn't wanted him:lol:
No. I think he would be less effective because as a team we are miles behind RM and Ronaldo as we saw last night is someone who doesn't need many touches. Just give him the chances and he'll put them away. At United he'd be a lot more involved because our build up isn't strong enough and that isn't his strength anymore. Our service into Lukaku is pretty bad so Ronaldo wouldn't be any different in that regard. We also need to invest the money into improving our squad and that wouldn't happen if we signed Ronaldo. His age isn't a reason to turn him down though. We saw what Zlatan did in PL last year at the age of 35 so it's frightening to think what a younger Ronaldo would do the PL. He'd tear it apart for the next 3/4 years if by any chance he came.
 
Btw anyone would take Cris at United now?

as at start of the season, most of us didn't wanted him:lol:

No both Messi and Ronaldo are more trouble than they are worth imo. Obviously they will elevate us to a different level but they would basically demand to be treated like neymar does at psg.
 
And people thought he was over the hill at 33. He's clearly going to have a very similar later career to Zlatan, if not even better.
 
That's Messi. Cristiano renegotiated his contract twice in 8 years. This is the third time we're discussing his contract, and it all stems from a promise by Perez in Cardiff

Btw. 2.23 meters high :lol:
Is this supposed to be the height he was at? I mean I know he got some air but 2.2m? Absolutely bollocks. :lol: that's over 7 foot. The only way I can see this calculation is that it is the height of his foot making contact with the ball
 
Is this supposed to be the height he was at? I mean I know he got some air but 2.2m? Absolutely bollocks. :lol: that's over 7 foot. The only way I can see this calculation is that it is the height of his foot making contact with the ball
Pretty sure that's what people are referring to.
 
Away fans have always been extremely harsh on Ronaldo for more than ten years now, and undeservedly so in my opinion. They were giving him the same dish last night, until that goal which was a moment of cathartic magnitude, and I'm really happy for him. And I hope we see more of the same where fans home and away enjoy this magnificent player at least in the latter stages of his career. He deserves this.
 
Away fans have always been extremely harsh on Ronaldo for more than ten years now, and undeservedly so in my opinion. They were giving him the same dish last night, until that goal which was a moment of cathartic magnitude, and I'm really happy for him. And I hope we see more of the same where fans home and away enjoy this magnificent player at least in the latter stages of his career. He deserves this.

Agreed.
 
Sorry but doesn't work like that, we could be at the same level all we wanted (we're not btw, not even then) but when it comes to foreign players, they would rather be living in Madrid/Catalonia, than they would in Manchester. Especially Latino players.

Money is not always the main motivator.

This is not true. Look at City. If you have the money, you get the players. With a Scottish pocket, you don't get the players. Simple.
 
Amazing player. I wish some of our younger players have the kind of dedication and workrate he has. I thought 2008 will be his peak, then 2012, then 2013, then 2016...his output has gone down, but his peak level remains the same when he wants to switch on
 
Away fans have always been extremely harsh on Ronaldo for more than ten years now, and undeservedly so in my opinion. They were giving him the same dish last night, until that goal which was a moment of cathartic magnitude, and I'm really happy for him. And I hope we see more of the same where fans home and away enjoy this magnificent player at least in the latter stages of his career. He deserves this.
100% true
 
It was not a massive fee at all for a once in a generation player like him. Just a Few years later daniel levy dug his teeth in bale deal who was half the player ronaldo is and got more than ronaldo and inflation was not through the roof back then like it is now. Look at what price madrid will sell asensio if ever he wants to leave to have a upper hand in the market, We gave ronaldo for a discounted price back then for a player of that level because of our lack of vision in the market.

No idea how people say this, it was a massive fee. Stop looking back at it with recent transfer fees in mind. Fees are so big today in part because of that Ronaldo deal.

In 2009 the world record fee was £48m Real paid for Zidane in installments, it had stood for 8 years and no other fee had really got near it in those 8 years never mind breaking it. The £80m fee for Ronaldo almost doubled it and was paid in a lump sum.

Yes considering the player he became and even the player he was back then we could have got more but the truth is the amount we received didn't really matter in the grand scheme of things because we were selling a player we just couldn't replace. We could have held out for £100m, £120m etc. and what difference would it have really made?

As stated we couldn't replace Ronaldo and whenever a team receives a massive fee for one player whoever they try to sign as replacements their price instantly inflates anyway because the selling club know you have money. Look at Spurs with the Bale money or Barca with the Neymar money. £142M for a player like Coutinho who wouldn't have went for anything more than £60-80m just a few months before and £135m for Dembele when Dortmund signed him the year before for £10-15m.