Martial has got to remain at United | No, he hasn't been unfollowing United players on Instagram

It's incredibly important for the future of the team that we give him a new contract. Hopefully this is just a tactic to put pressure on the team through his French media contacts. Can't see any reason to sell him, and if we do, it's surely got to be for a Neymar-style fee. Which club would pay that?
 
So he doesn't fit our system now, the fact the we have a system is news to me.
 
el3mel said:


Worrying. He's saying Martial wants to leave and refused contract extension.
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I hope where ever he chooses to go (preferably abroad for obvious reasons) that a buyback clause can somehow be inluded in the contract. This lad is going to be a star.
 
VanGaalyTime said:
It's incredibly important for the future of the team that we give him a new contract. Hopefully this is just a tactic to put pressure on the team through his French media contacts. Can't see any reason to sell him, and if we do, it's surely got to be for a Neymar-style fee. Which club would pay that?
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The club offered him a 5yr contract, however he rejected it according to the news.
 
VanGaalyTime said:
It's incredibly important for the future of the team that we give him a new contract. Hopefully this is just a tactic to put pressure on the team through his French media contacts. Can't see any reason to sell him, and if we do, it's surely got to be for a Neymar-style fee. Which club would pay that?
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He refused a contract. And there's no chance we'll get a Neymar fee, we'll hopefully get around £50m but even that's probably pushing it.
 
VP89 said:
If we assume Martial is happy to move to a lower club then I certainly understand the wish to leave. There's not a single top club he'd start at though, so he'd have to accept a wage cut and playing for a club outside top 2 in La Liga or outside top 4 in the Premier League.
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He'd start for Atletico and maybe Juve tho.
 
Spurs, Atletico and Juventus interested. Can't see us selling to Spurs considering how difficult they've been for us to deal with over the years, send him to Atletico, they should have a good transfer budget if Griezmann is moved on.
 
KM said:
He'd start for Atletico and maybe Juve tho.
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No chance. Those two are too much of a step up for him.
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Best bet if he wants to mope around and not actually add anything to his game is for him just to go to back to France and have a decent career.
 
CA1 said:
No chance.

World class players have to have far more to their game than him.

He'll go to Juventus and then end up back in France at Lyon or Marseille etc.
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No chance. He's 22 and people are writing him off when pre-February, he was one our most important attackers and key to us already being second in the table. Now he's shite and is going to end up like Depay.

We will regret this if we don't at least ensure we get a buy-back option.
 
Random Task said:
He doesn't fit Jose's system, that much is blatantly evident.

Out of curiosity are you a Martial fan or a United fan?
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Jose's system is to sit back and wait for his opposition to make a mistake so we can counter.

I can see why some players might not thrive under this system.

I am a United fan who cares dearly about the future of the club, which is why I am also a Martial fan.
 
AltiUn said:
He refused a contract. And there's no chance we'll get a Neymar fee, we'll hopefully get around £50m but even that's probably pushing it.
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He'll go for over 70m. Remember ousmane dembele with only 1 good season at Dortmund (arguably only as good as Martials first season) went for like 130m? Martial is more of a scorer then dembele too. He'll go for over 70m for sure imo. Will be a joke if the club let him go for less.
 
bosnian_red said:
He'll go for over 70m. Remember ousmane dembele with only 1 good season at Dortmund (arguably only as good as Martials first season) went for like 130m? Martial is more of a scorer then dembele too. He'll go for over 70m for sure imo. Will be a joke if the club let him go for less.
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But he only has a year left on his contract, whereas Dembele had a number of years.
 
bosnian_red said:
He'll go for over 70m. Remember ousmane dembele with only 1 good season at Dortmund (arguably only as good as Martials first season) went for like 130m? Martial is more of a scorer then dembele too. He'll go for over 70m for sure imo. Will be a joke if the club let him go for less.
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It depends on how the 1 year clause work, if it's unilateral or not, and whether potential suitors are patient enough to maybe wait 6 months.
 
JPRouve said:
It depends on how the 1 year clause work, if it's unilateral or not, and whether potential suitors are patient enough to maybe wait 6 months.
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Think it's just the standard one we always include, 1 year we can trigger whenever we want. It's essentially 2 years left I'd say.
 
No way around it, I think he has obvious flaws but his talent is so obvious it'll really suck if he left, unless we replaced him with another top talent say on the right. I have always counted on having both Martial and Rashford for the future since I'm not convinced Rashford will be able to make the left side his own even after Sanchez.

Hopefully something happens in the remaining part of the season to lighten things up a bit.
 
AltiUn said:
Even so, 2 years isn't exactly a lot of breathing room.
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That's normal for when you sell a player. The standard contract is 4-5 years, so you give a player 2-3 years to either earn a renewal or sell him.
 
AltiUn said:
Even so, 2 years isn't exactly a lot of breathing room.
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It can be. His form can change and he can make more starts before feeling more committed. You never really know I guess. I still remember when Spurs were trying to offload Son 2 summers ago and he ended up staying to become one of their best players.
 
Losing him over play time because of Sanchez would just be a hard pill to swallow. A bird in the hand rather than two in the bush and all that, but it just feels like it's going to come back and bite us. And Alexis hasn't exactly been unplayable as of yet so it's all a bit disappointing.

No chance for us to sell to Spurs though. I think we are not that stupid.
 
bosnian_red said:
Think it's just the standard one we always include, 1 year we can trigger whenever we want. It's essentially 2 years left I'd say.
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Yeah but I don't how our standard one work and I don't think anyone has ever described it, I remember that it was already a debate with Evra.
 
Snafu17 said:
Losing him over play time because of Sanchez would just be a hard pill to swallow. A bird in the hand rather than two in the bush and all that, but it just feels like it's going to come back and bite us. And Alexis hasn't exactly been unplayable as of yet so it's all a bit disappointing.
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Alexis has been very good in the last couple of matches tbf. And he's more likely to continue his form than Martial is I reckon.
 
The_Order said:
Jose's system is to sit back and wait for his opposition to make a mistake so we can counter.

I can see why some players might not thrive under this system.

I am a United fan who cares dearly about the future of the club, which is why I am also a Martial fan.
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Martial isn't the only young talent in the game today, there are countless undiscovered superstars waiting desperately to be discovered. Just a matter of finding them.

The club will move forward regardless of whether or not Martial remains at the club.
 
If he does leave, reckon itll be either Atleti or Juve. Griezmann leaving Atletico so he'd slot in there perfectly, while Juve do lack a left inside forward type like that and would balance them well with dybala on the right and higuain middle.

If he leaves, we need to spend big on a promising right winger (who can also fill in on left wouldn't hurt). Leon bailey perfect replacement. Both him and Sessegnon even.
 
I've thought he has been off for a few weeks now. He's a really talented player but I'm not sure he has the stomach for a fight. Would be disappointing to lose him, but if it comes to that and we get a big fee and replace him with a good right sided player it would resolve quite a few issues tbh.

Bouhafsi tends to be pretty reliable too so I think there will be something in this. Just need to see but this will rumble on a wee while yet.
 
This is our De Bruyne. Mourinho definitely would do that although he knows how the fans rated Martial.
 
I'd be surprised if one of Martial/Rashford wasn't sold. They are both clearly behind Sanchez/Lukaku and aren't really suited to playing in the remaining position on the right.
 
JPRouve said:
Yeah but I don't how our standard one work and I don't think anyone has ever described it, I remember that it was already a debate with Evra.
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I think it's usually one that the club and player do in good faith. We did it with Blind even though Mourinho has no intention on keeping him. Same with Shaw. With Evra, van Gaal was coming in, evra wanted out so a new manager probably doesnt care for a past it player who wants out. So if Martial wants out, I doubt people would use the "1 year left"excuse for a lower price when we can just put it to 2 to get a fair price, and I doubt martial is desperate to leave so would be fine with us getting a fair price.
 
KM said:
The club offered him a 5yr contract, however he rejected it according to the news.
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Yeah I'd imagine he wants a guarantee of playing time in there. It's a negotiating tactic. He might want to leave but I doubt he'd want to leave if we offered a contract and gave him playing time on the left or up front.
 
Raees said:
No chance. He's 22 and people are writing him off when pre-February, he was one our most important attackers and key to us already being second in the table. Now he's shite and is going to end up like Depay.

We will regret this if we don't at least ensure we get a buy-back option.
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He's never been one of our most important attackers since Mourinho has been here. The team has improved and left him behind. He's average.
 
The current process seems to be a negotiation tactic between the club and Martial anyway. I won't go too much by what's being said in the press, etc. He was a regular starter until recently, so I don't see Jose not rating him or anything.

Do I want him to stay - hell yeah! I'd be furious if we weren't trying our best to retain him (subject to fair terms and conditions).

But if he demands to be a guaranteed starter to sign the contract or even worse if he has fallen out with Mourinho, then I don't mind seeing the back of him.
 
VP89 said:
Alexis has been very good in the last couple of matches tbf. And he's more likely to continue his form than Martial is I reckon.
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I mean he hasn't been better than Martial yet and he's way older than him as well. I believe that Alexis will get back to his brilliant level for United but Martial could've potentially given us the same/or better just for a longer period of time. Or he would never reach his potential. It's all about risk/reward and I'd rather just take the gamble with Martial even if we would miss out on Alexis. A bit late for that now, of course.
 
75 million replacement for Griezmann. He’ll play in a central role just off Costa which will suit him more. I can see that happening.

We have Sanchez and Rashford as back up on the left. Use the money to reinforce the squad elsewhere.
 
bosnian_red said:
I think it's usually one that the club and player do in good faith. We did it with Blind even though Mourinho has no intention on keeping him. Same with Shaw. With Evra, van Gaal was coming in, evra wanted out so a new manager probably doesnt care for a past it player who wants out. So if Martial wants out, I doubt people would use the "1 year left"excuse for a lower price when we can just put it to 2 to get a fair price, and I doubt martial is desperate to leave so would be fine with us getting a fair price.
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We don't really know about that, players get desperate quite rapidly. We are not used to it at United but that's fairly common, particularly when it's about playing time and that the player is allegedly not in good terms with the manager.
 
Martial would have stayed if Jose is ready to Sub his babies. He never Subbed Zlatan first when he was going through the patch and now the same story with Lukaku. Even when he is not playing well he keeps him on the pitch for the 90 Mins. He can easily Sub Lukaku and Sanchez for Rashford and Martial after 75 mins. This will help both players to develop with of course occasional rotations in low profile games.

Jose is Stubborn and that's the reason now he wants to leave. Martial was happy before with Sub role as he was playing some role for the team. As many above said he had good Jan and Feb, now Jose not even giving him chances from the bench have put the nail in the coffin.

First Jose Took his No 9 without telling him and now gave his position to Sanchez. No disrespect to Sanchez but he was horrible in all the games but he did well in last two games Bcz jose trusted him and he needs to show same trust on Martial and Rashford.
 
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