Honest John
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One reason the US used them on Japan was because nobody could retaliate in kind.Who can forget the time we nuked Russia and North Korea.
In a similar circumstance other states could well do the same.
One reason the US used them on Japan was because nobody could retaliate in kind.Who can forget the time we nuked Russia and North Korea.
The first thing that I want from the PM is a willingness to defend the safety of it's citizens.Your ideal PM is someone who'll increase the sales of bomb shelters and gas masks.
From who?The first thing that I want from the PM is a willingness to defend the safety of it's citizens.
Corbyn. Nuke Corbyn.From who?
From any aggressor. State, terrorist or individual.From who?
Gazza turning up with a fishing rod and a nuclear warhead would have ended the Raoul Moat stand-off a lot sooner.Yes, we should have nuked Bin Laden and Fred West.
The use of force should be proportional. But a Prime Minister (of whatever party) should be prepared to take such action when necessary. Sometimes, for the sake of our forces that action may need to be rapid and not hindered by long drawn-out and inconclusive debate. Jeremy Corbyn is a pacifist and does not have the ability to make those kind of calls. Therefore he should resign.Yes, we should have nuked Bin Laden and Fred West.
well they do kinda have a deterrent - you know keeping all the world leaders money stashed in secret bank accounts and Nazi goldJust look at Switzerland, they don't have a deterrent or go to war and people nuke them almost every week.
Can’t remember who it was that suggested that the nuclear codes should be surgically implanted in the heart of one of the PM’s most loyal assistants, with a carving knife locked in a glass cabinet in his/her office. If they ever needed to press the button the PM should be forced to slice open their chest and rip out the still beating heart. By literally having someone’s blood on their hands it would make them think a little harder about the amount of people that would also die when they start launching nuclear bombs. Kind of a cool idea. Can’t imagine poor ‘aul Jezza coping too well in this scenario.
EDIT: woah, posted before I read that post from @Silva
sounds we're safe too, the city being balls deep in rubleswell they do kinda have a deterrent - you know keeping all the world leaders money stashed in secret bank accounts and Nazi gold
One reason they don't nuke Switzerland is because there is a deterrent.Just look at Switzerland, they don't have a deterrent or go to war and people nuke them almost every week.
oh my god you are as smart as you come acrossOne reason they don't nuke Switzerland is because there is a deterrent.
The use of force should be proportional. But a Prime Minister (of whatever party) should be prepared to take such action when necessary. Sometimes, for the sake of our forces that action may need to be rapid and not hindered by long drawn-out and inconclusive debate. Jeremy Corbyn is a pacifist and does not have the ability to make those kind of calls. Therefore he should resign.
Most of the conservative party would try to stab their assistant with the handle endCan’t remember who it was that suggested that the nuclear codes should be surgically implanted in the heart of one of the PM’s most loyal assistants, with a carving knife locked in a glass cabinet in his/her office. If they ever needed to press the button the PM should be forced to slice open their chest and rip out the still beating heart. By literally having someone’s blood on their hands it would make them think a little harder about the amount of people that would also die when they start launching nuclear bombs. Kind of a cool idea. Can’t imagine poor ‘aul Jezza coping too well in this scenario.
EDIT: woah, posted before I read that post from @Silva
Are we getting personal now?oh my god you are as smart as you come across
He's pushing buttons.Are we getting personal now?
sounds we're safe too, the city being balls deep in rubles
Look the fact of the matter is that these weapons are here - in their thousands. Of course it would be wonderful if we could all end up like Switzerland. But it isn't like that. The problem with Social Democracy is that it doesn't take account of human nature. Live and let live in this era is, unfortunately not a practical solution. There are too may people on this planet that want to aggressively impose their world view on everyone else. So, until we reach Nirvana we need to retain the ability and will to defend ourselves.What good is a world where we don't have the biggest dick? Better just kill everyone.
good point, let's nuke Jacob Reas-Mogghere are too may people on this planet that want to aggressively impose their world view on everyone else.
good point, let's nuke Jacob Reas-Mogg
or John McDonnell evengood point, let's nuke Jacob Reas-Mogg
Can’t remember who it was that suggested that the nuclear codes should be surgically implanted in the heart of one of the PM’s most loyal assistants, with a carving knife locked in a glass cabinet in his/her office. If they ever needed to press the button the PM should be forced to slice open their chest and rip out the still beating heart. By literally having someone’s blood on their hands it would make them think a little harder about the amount of people that would also die when they start launching nuclear bombs. Kind of a cool idea. Can’t imagine poor ‘aul Jezza coping too well in this scenario.
EDIT: woah, posted before I read that post from @Silva
If you really think about it, Stanislav Petrov is the biggest coward on the planet, how dare he not kill us all when he was told nukes were raining on the USSR.
That is not the point here. It is that Corbyn would not be able to take office as PM of this country with the full commitment that he would be prepared to defend it using whatever means necessary in the circumstances. That is fundamentally wrong.I happened to watch A Little bit of Fry and Laurie the other day and in one of the first episodes there's a sketch dedicated to Reas-Mogg senior. Very unnerving how much of thier comedy relates to today.
Anyway the idea that any power would ignore our nuclear deterrent because they weren't sure Corbyn would use it is hillarious, can you imaginethat discussion. If we'r going to be ridiculous lets say May can't be in charge as the sexist nations out there will never fear a woman!
That is not the point here. It is that Corbyn would not be able to take office as PM of this country with the full commitment that he would be prepared to defend it using whatever means necessary in the circumstances. That is fundamentally wrong.
Does whatever means necessary include chemical weapons?![]()
Or be murdered ourselves. Which is preferable I take it.Ah, yes, the well treaded moral philosophy of murdering entire nations.
i don't think you understand how mutually assured destruction worksOr be murdered ourselves. Which is preferable I take it.
Nuke the Vatican!There are too may people on this planet that want to aggressively impose their world view on everyone else.
Are you 8? I had more grown up discussion about WWF in year 4
Your petulant reaction to anyone who questions a policy is hilarious.
Mutually assured destruction is the notion that if one side strikes first the other side will launch an overwhelming response.i don't think you understand how mutually assured destruction works