One reason the US used them on Japan was because nobody could retaliate in kind.
In a similar circumstance other states could well do the same.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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In a similar circumstance other states could well do the same.
The first thing that I want from the PM is a willingness to defend the safety of it's citizens.
From who?
Corbyn. Nuke Corbyn.
From any aggressor. State, terrorist or individual.
Yes, we should have nuked Bin Laden and Fred West.
Nice to see we have our very own Gammon Face on here.
Just look at Switzerland, they don't have a deterrent or go to war and people nuke them almost every week.
Gazza turning up with a fishing rod and a nuclear warhead would have ended the Raoul Moat stand-off a lot sooner.
The use of force should be proportional. But a Prime Minister (of whatever party) should be prepared to take such action when necessary. Sometimes, for the sake of our forces that action may need to be rapid and not hindered by long drawn-out and inconclusive debate. Jeremy Corbyn is a pacifist and does not have the ability to make those kind of calls. Therefore he should resign.
The PM debates should really just be a fight to the death. How can you be PM unless you've strangled someone with your bare hands?
Can’t remember who it was that suggested that the nuclear codes should be surgically implanted in the heart of one of the PM’s most loyal assistants, with a carving knife locked in a glass cabinet in his/her office. If they ever needed to press the button the PM should be forced to slice open their chest and rip out the still beating heart. By literally having someone’s blood on their hands it would make them think a little harder about the amount of people that would also die when they start launching nuclear bombs. Kind of a cool idea. Can’t imagine poor ‘aul Jezza coping too well in this scenario.
EDIT: woah, posted before I read that post from @Silva
EDIT: woah, posted before I read that post from @Silva
well they do kinda have a deterrent - you know keeping all the world leaders money stashed in secret bank accounts and Nazi gold
That’s brilliant.
sounds we're safe too, the city being balls deep in rubles
One reason they don't nuke Switzerland is because there is a deterrent.
oh my god you are as smart as you come across
Most of the conservative party would try to stab their assistant with the handle end
Are we getting personal now?
I hope there would be one such person among the nuclear forces. Interesting scenario, just die, or die but kill them as well (and the rest of the world probably)?
What good is a world where we don't have the biggest dick? Better just kill everyone.
He's pushing buttons.
If you really think about it, Stanislav Petrov is the biggest coward on the planet, how dare he not kill us all when he was told nukes were raining on the USSR.
To be fair I think there is a higher % chance trump nukes us than putin... especially if trump ever comes over here and gets the kind of reception i expect he will
Look the fact of the matter is that these weapons are here - in their thousands. Of course it would be wonderful if we could all end up like Switzerland. But it isn't like that. The problem with Social Democracy is that it doesn't take account of human nature. Live and let live in this era is, unfortunately not a practical solution. There are too may people on this planet that want to aggressively impose their world view on everyone else. So, until we reach Nirvana we need to retain the ability and will to defend ourselves.
good point, let's nuke Jacob Reas-Mogg
I happened to watch A Little bit of Fry and Laurie the other day and in one of the first episodes there's a sketch dedicated to Reas-Mogg senior. Very unnerving how much of thier comedy relates to today.
Anyway the idea that any power would ignore our nuclear deterrent because they weren't sure Corbyn would use it is hillarious, can you imaginethat discussion. If we'r going to be ridiculous lets say May can't be in charge as the sexist nations out there will never fear a woman!
or John McDonnell even
His teenage years involved some farm work, so he *might* manage it.
That said, he became a vegetarian afterwards
<3Sheer unwillingness to defend his citizens
That is not the point here. It is that Corbyn would not be able to take office as PM of this country with the full commitment that he would be prepared to defend it using whatever means necessary in the circumstances. That is fundamentally wrong.
Ah, yes, the well treaded moral philosophy of murdering entire nations.
Does whatever means necessary include chemical weapons?
If they were used on us and there was massive loss of life then I would advocate a proportional response. Which does not necessarily mean that we would respond using the same weapons.
Or be murdered ourselves. Which is preferable I take it.
i don't think you understand how mutually assured destruction works
Nuke the Vatican!
To be fair he was spot on. Which you obviously didn't like.
Mutually assured destruction is the notion that if one side strikes first the other side will launch an overwhelming response.
It is a deterrent from making a first strike.
But no such deterrent will exist if only one State has them as was the case in 1945 and so they were used.
Getting rid of them will take decades, even centuries and more importantly political will. This will not happen while we are all at one another's throats. (as we have been for thousands of years) And especially while there are those who harbour religious or ideological views that the world should be run according to their beliefs.