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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Nonsense. The Tories want a pie in the sky deal where they can keep all the benefits of a customs union and single market without any of the obligations like freedom of movement. Whereas Labour want a pie in the sky deal where they can keep all the benefits of a customs union and single market without any of the obligations like freedom of movement.

If you can't call that credible opposition then what is. They're also opposing UKIP's xenophobic immigration policy by mirroring UKIP's xenophobic immigration policy.

But I for one am pleased the party is being led by a man of principle and not some kind of electoral opportunist who sees winning votes as the be all and end all. The reason Labour oppose freedom of movement is because of Corbyn's deeply held conviction that not doing so might be politically disadvantageous.
There is a party opposed to brexit but no one voted for them, whys that? Maybe the majority of brits are in favour of brexit or politics isnt just about 1 topic. You decide
 
He wants to be sacked from the cabinet in order to; not only avoid any stains from Brexit but also to profit from any fallout. As it stands Brexit goes on his CV.

May knows this and 1. won't give him the satisfaction - but 2. can't afford to sack him as the fractures could see her government implode.
Credit where its due, at least May is keeping Boris & DDs feet to the fire. If she goes down with the ship so should they.
 
There is a party opposed to brexit but no one voted for them, whys that? Maybe the majority of brits are in favour of brexit or politics isnt just about 1 topic. You decide


Would that be the SNP who without convincing their pro-European electorate it is impossible for the Labour party to ever win an election?
 
There is a party opposed to brexit but no one voted for them, whys that? Maybe the majority of brits are in favour of brexit or politics isnt just about 1 topic. You decide
I see you are still trying to palm blame off onto anyone but Brexiters.
 
I see you are still trying to palm blame off onto anyone but Brexiters.
There's no 'trying' about it. The choice at the general election was quite clear, Liberals against brexit, Conservatives and Labour for. If you didn't get that then, as the cartoon says, you should have paid more fecking attention. Apologies to the Scots by the way, I can't help being English.
 
To be fair, as far as electoral policies go, you can't really expect young people to look any deeper than *NO TUITION FEES*.

Sort of like magpies and tin foil.
 
To be fair, as far as electoral policies go, you can't really expect young people to look any deeper than *NO TUITION FEES*.

Sort of like magpies and tin foil.

Do old people look any further than winter fuel allowance? Do parents look any further than [insert whatever the feck parents care about most]?

The problem isn’t young people, it’s just that we have a grotesquely ill-informed voting public who are strangely proud of that ignorance. It seems to be the big weakness of democracy. People insist on having the right to vote, yet after a few generations of comfort and stability they stopped caring about the details of what they’re actually voting for.
 
There's no 'trying' about it. The choice at the general election was quite clear, Liberals against brexit, Conservatives and Labour for. If you didn't get that then, as the cartoon says, you should have paid more fecking attention. Apologies to the Scots by the way, I can't help being English.
Thankyou - i got it, im not as thick as you think i am.

Perhaps many of the electorate didnt realise that the General Election was a re-run of the referendum? Who knows.
 
Do old people look any further than winter fuel allowance? Do parents look any further than [insert whatever the feck parents care about most]?

The problem isn’t young people, it’s just that we have a grotesquely ill-informed voting public who are strangely proud of that ignorance. It seems to be the big weakness of democracy. People insist on having the right to vote, yet after a few generations of comfort and stability they stopped caring about the details of what they’re actually voting for.

No I totally agree. Vast majority of the electorate are only ever capable of one-policy voting.

Just that young people voting Labour for tuition fees and then moaning about their Brexit approach is a perfect example of it.
 
I see you are still trying to palm blame off onto anyone but Brexiters.
I blame anyone NOT happy with Brexit but voted for Cameron

After the vote I Blame anyone no REALLY NOT HAPPY that not only voted the tories back in but voted labour in to 2nd

It's not Brexiteers that gave you the non binding ref is it? It was 'call me' Dave
 
No I totally agree. Vast majority of the electorate are only ever capable of one-policy voting.

Just that young people voting Labour for tuition fees and then moaning about their Brexit approach is a perfect example of it.

The ComRes survey shows overwhelming support for plans to re-nationalise energy, tax the wealthiest and cap the pension age rise.
Renationalising the railways is backed by 52% of voters, with 22% opposed and 26% don’t know, while nationalising the energy market is supported by 49% with 24% against and 28% don’t know.

And renationalising the Royal Mail which is backed by 50% of voters, with 25% opposed and 25% don’t know.

Labour’s most popular policies include banning zero hours contracts with 71% in favour and just 16% against.
Labour’s pledge to limit the state pension age to 66 is supported 74% of voters, with 15% against and 11% don’t know.

A majority of voters also back Labour’s plans to build 100,000 more council houses a year (54% to 24%) and abolish university tuition fees (46% to 37%).

The tuition fees were the least popular of his manifesto.

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Could be it for May and co.
 
Labour would back May in a confidence vote under those terms.

Holy shit, a post that doesn't contain the word "Corbyn". I know it's implied but well done all the same mate. Baby steps and all that.
 
Holy shit, a post that doesn't contain the word "Corbyn". I know it's implied but well done all the same mate. Baby steps and all that.

I don't need that much convincing that he is irrelevant to the debate. In fact that's my default position.
 
Lol, the Tories are now lying to their own. Is anyone surprised when the EU ironclads everything when negotiating with these liars?

If the EU had any doubt over how duplicitous this government is, it has been very much removed over the last few months. Trully shambolic.
 
Electoral Commission has found out that Vote Leave most likely broke the law, which could pave way for a criminal investigation.
 
Will result in a few fines and nothing more

The electoral laws on this sort of thing are appalling. Mild fines that parties/campaign can easily afford, meaning it's generally more beneficial for them to break the rules and pay the fine afterwards. Can pretty much use it as a tactical method without having to worry to the extreme about the consequences.
 
The idea that Corbyn can avoid the poiltical fallout from hard brexit is fanciful.
 
Hopes and dreams.

I've never understood why Brexiteers thought the EU had any obligation whatsoever to make things even remotely easier for us by doing any sort of deal.

We're leaving them, they don't have to do anything at all.

I want to leave my Gym, however they gave me a blank look when I said that I still wanted full access to their facility and extra perks that existing members don’t have.

Very unreasonable of them I thought...
 
Looking forward to Oscie appearing to explain that the turn out is pitiful and proof Corbyn is running out of steam, but the dozen or so people holding up a banner prove Corbyn needs to come out against Brexit.
 
Looking forward to Oscie appearing to explain that the turn out is pitiful and proof Corbyn is running out of steam, but the dozen or so people holding up a banner prove Corbyn needs to come out against Brexit.

Not at all I think it's wonderful use of the opposition leader's time to attend political rallies held in his own honour.
 
Looking forward to Oscie appearing to explain that the turn out is pitiful and proof Corbyn is running out of steam, but the dozen or so people holding up a banner prove Corbyn needs to come out against Brexit.

Are you completely ignoring what the tweet is saying?

EDIT: Have to say I've done a bit of research into this event and fcuk me, talk about being out of touch with the average man in the street. It's like a bizarre cult.
 
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Are you completely ignoring what the tweet is saying?

EDIT: Have to say I've done a bit of research into this event and fcuk me, talk about being out of touch with the average man in the street. It's like a bizarre cult.

My favourite bit is where Pat Sharp came on and awarded John McDonnell with the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party 2018 award for dishiest male.

Politics, eh? Just think, we'd have an entirely different phrase to use if Nero knew Stormzy and Owen Jones.