Basically, the back story is that Rubin has been dropping snide criticisms of Cenk and TYT for over a year during his interviews with the likes of Rogan, Harris, and last week at Oxford Union. Last night Cenk and Kasparian had a bit of revenge.
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Basically, the back story is that Rubin has been dropping snide criticisms of Cenk and TYT for over a year during his interviews with the likes of Rogan, Harris, and last week at Oxford Union. Last night Cenk and Kasparian had a bit of revenge.
Milo is a complete clown and cretin. I don't know why he's famous or why people listen to him.
But joe Rogan is a tool
You would think that. You centrist apologist for the crimes committed by the Trump administration. You get the wall too!
When this is all over there will be another Obama and another Axelrod to ensure none of these people get punished in any meaningful way
Well, yes, and we've already long since passed the tipping point for drastic climate change. It's all fecked.
You didn't miss anything. About 20 secs of it is Joe Rogan and Dave Rubin. Most of it Dave Rubin being a bit slow. The other 14 mins is a dude laughing and calling Dave Rubin a dumbass. Not sure why i'm telling you this ... your overwhelming curiosity and enthusiasm for the clip compelled me to I guess.
How does a douchey, basic, charmless motherfecker like that end up as some sort of spokesman for a section of society? Christ. He sounds like a badly acted Simpson character.
Because he represents the same kind of douchey, basic, charmless motherfeckers who cried 'SJW marxist feminist muslim traitor' at anything and everything.
Bit like how the Japanese hire unfit, ugly men in their porn, I suppose.
I refuse to believe that is his actual voice. It simply can’t be.
Is he 3 small goblins in a human suit?
That's genuinely the first time i've heard Ben Shapiro speak. I've had absolutely no interest in watching any of his videos before. Dude sounds like choked down a few too many helium balloons.
He's actually not saying that, Steven Crowder does and the video cuts off at the start of Peterson's answer. Which then is typical Peterson bollocks, but not really what the tweet says.
Can be seen in the video link from 37:25.
The intellectual dark web does need better lighting:
hell is those peopleBunch of fcuking weirdos I swear. Harris has really gone down in my estimation from this frequent association with this lot. Even if it's just for money.
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Harris has gone from Hitchens, Dawkins, and Dennett in 2007 to Rubin, Rogan, and Shapiro in 2018
This is the issue with Shapiro. He rarely gets the better or sounds more sensible/wise than people who aren't even that good at debating (Maher). The fact Cenk managed to nullify him at that event should tell people he aint all that fcuking bright.
This Maher interview is a great example of what happens when someone doesn't let you roll off a bunch of nonsense in quick-fire fashion without stopping you to clarify what you're talking about.
Shapiro is just not made for these canned 10 minute segments which is why he is rarely effective on TV. He's better at longer YouTube style debates either on Rubin's or similar shows or live Q&A with audiences.
You mean when he doesn't get properly challenged or he's arguing against dopey university students?
It's possible that Hitchens would roll with that crew if he was still around.
He does well even when he is challenged. Trouble is he is generally on the wrong side of the issues which makes lesser opposition debaters (like Cenk) seem smart.
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Definitely, although I doubt he would spend much time with the likes of Rubin and Rogan. Hitch was already an established player on national tv for decades and would probably fall somewhere between Fry and Harris in terms of his involvement.
Replying to yourself now?
Replying to yourself now?
Dafaq. Thought i was replying to Minimalist.
I mean it does make sense you would agree with that post.
How did Harris get roped in with these clowns? Because he’s their anti-Islam champion or something?
I think they are all using one another as a network to advance their various shows and writings. Ordinarily, Harris would be dealing with the likes of Hitchens and Dawkins but for obvious reasons, he has now been forced to a few echelons down.
Oh my god, they're having drinks
It's interesting to see how obsessed some people seem to be with this group, to the point that a mundane picture of them having drinks triggers several instant reponses from people who hate them. The thread has evolved from a discussion about Shapiro to a couple of posters bumping it every once in a while to tell us all how stupid he, Peterson and the rest of them are. It's like reverse fanboyism.
It's interesting to see how obsessed some people seem to be with this group, to the point that a mundane picture of them having drinks triggers several instant reponses from people who hate them. The thread has evolved from a discussion about Shapiro to a couple of posters bumping it every once in a while to tell us all how stupid he, Peterson and the rest of them are. It's like reverse fanboyism.
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Why does Harris always look like he wants to feck me?
We're just haters, Borden.Oh my god, they're having drinks
It's interesting to see how obsessed some people seem to be with this group, to the point that a mundane picture of them having drinks triggers several instant reponses to this thread. It's like reverse fanboyism.
It's certainly interesting to see the level of intense dislike/hatred they seem to inspire in some people. I can't recall any of them ever saying anything that controversial either, with the exception of Harris. Is it their success/fame combined with the fact that they don't subscribe to all things left that does it?
It stems from a concern that the ideas these guys espouse (particularly Peterson and Harris) may take flight among broader, more contemporary audiences. Otherwise no one would pay any attention to them.
Some of them come across as complete clowns, like Shapiro. But they often take stances that appear on the face of it to be sexist or racist or discriminatory. This will spark ire, understandably. The media also portrays them in a particularly biased light (on both sides), which doesn't help discourse. When you dig a bit deeper you find that these guys are often misrepresented and that like most human beings they have their strengths and weaknesses. Unfortunately discussion becomes binary and you are either a fanboy or a hater.
I'm still wondering why the heck they managed to become so famous.
Of course it is. One of them goes round claiming the entirety of the left are post modern neo-marxists determined to destroy Western civilisation. If you're progressive you're not gonna be happy that young men are listening to this nonsense.
The more I listen to Shapiro, the more I think he's just a professional arguer. I've never heard him admit he is wrong, he excels at whataboutism, and if he doesn't like a question he'll change it and answer a different question with surprising conviction.
Oh man, I literally wrote just that (well almost, I wrote professional 'debater'), but then edited my post and made it about why these guys are so hated instead. That's exactly my impression of him. And precisely why I think he's so profoundly uninteresting.
That seems overly hysterical.
I've no idea whether that's a fair representation of Peterson, but young men have listened to loads of shite throughout the ages. Like Ayn Rand. Most of them grow out of it.