I'd expect Liverpool TV to rattle on about Liverpool.
I'd expect Croatian TV to obsess about Croatia.
Do you think Belgian TV were ignoring their team while showing Sweden vs England?
Take a look at yourself.
The "England have had it easy" narrative
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I'd expect Croatian TV to obsess about Croatia.
Do you think Belgian TV were ignoring their team while showing Sweden vs England?
Take a look at yourself.
Spot on. Don’t need to justify your most successful tournament since 1990 as being an Overachievement or that players are world class or anything like it. Just enjoy where you are and accept that you have had a bit of luck in the way the draw worked out for you.
Everyone else on the planet can see it
I'm just saying, you're on a Manchester United forum, not an England forum. I don't know why you'd expect threads about England to be free of people critiquing the side or indeed actively wanting them to lose.
Fair enough.
It is coming home though.
I'm just saying, you're on a Manchester United forum, not an England forum. I don't know why you'd expect threads about England to be free of people critiquing the side or indeed actively wanting them to lose.
Hey sure you have united fans actively wanting united to lose some games
If you're ROI supporter, then no offence but htf would you even know?!
Ireland are shite I’m good with this sunshine
I can only imagine the reaction if we started talking about Southgate the way we do about Mourinho.
so scoring headed goals from open play, and our goalkeeper making saves. You're bizarrely using those two things as weird, lucky byes to the next round? What if we kicked the goals in against Sweden? Would that be better for you?
That is quite frankly one of the strangest things I've read on this or any other football forum.
I do agree but the amount of times this exact scenario is brought up shows that to some extent, it's an asterisk against their win.
So many English supporting snowflakes emerging
Yes, England has had an easy route. It is fact but one to enjoy I'd say. All roads lead to he same objective
Yes. I should definitely leave my country to be able to watch Russia play Croatia without the focus being on England. Seems reasonable.
Some fans are so easily triggered.
ITV is not an English broadcaster. The comparison to Liverpool TV is therefore incredibly stupid. If you were watching Man United beat Chelsea in an FA Cup tie would you expect the first sentence at the end of the game to be about the team they face in the next round?
I wouldn’t expect the first mention right at the end of England beating Sweden to be about anyone other than England or Sweden to be honest.
France are being touted by many to win the whole thing as they alongside Belgium have the best players on paper. No other teams come close. The reason England is being praised is because us fans literally expected nothing from them.
Who gives a toss if it's deemed an easier route. It's not as though England is considered one of the globally elite teams. We lost to bloody Iceland for goodness sake. Looking at England's footballing history, apart from the odd occassion, every route is hard......
I can't speak for others but personally my heart is bleeding to hear of this most unjust of experiences you had to endure. There you were, waiting in eager anticipation of some post match analysis about the game just played only to be met with the insufferably cruel blow of hearing about the importance of that fixture for the country to which the broadcaster belonged.
This is an epic tale of injustice and I personally feel that heads should have to roll after this.
I can only hope that you had a soothing cup of cocoa to hand to help you recover from this devastating turn of events.
Not true you fecked yourselves over to be honest many many times against absolute shit teams or dropping points in group stages against Tunisia to finish second in the group.
Thanks for the intelligent conversation and for making me like England fans even more. Enjoy the rest of the World Cup.
Nah.
It's been one of the easiest routes to a world semi final in the competition history. Just be grateful that you've made it this far(In fairness most England fans are).
Check out both Germany and Turkey from 2002 or Italy from 2006
There is one or two easy runs every tournament
This is almost intelligible.
A national broadcaster will concentrate on that country's team.
I think you are plowing a lone furrow here.
I think what has been missed so far is, this may have appeared to be an easy route, for a tournament favourite.
Which England definitely were not..
England have been playing their peers, and in Colombia''s case, superiors.
So, a favourable route, but not easy.
of course it's been an easy road for England....but once the ball drops anything can happen.England just have to play what's infront of them...they didn't decide the groups.
It's been one of the easiest routes to a world semi final in the competition history. Just be grateful that you've made it this far(In fairness most England fans are).
This.
Southgate gambled on getting the easier route. We got past Colombia, just, and it's paid off.
If England get to the final or even win it, won't matter how we did it.
When we won in 1966 we only played 5 games, all at Wembley. Goal in the final that probably didn't actually cross the line.
Name on the trophy is all that matters.
Most people do support England though, hence the fervour. If Wales or Scotland were in the semi finals then the chat would be all about them, and rightly so, because they are home nations and have many supporters. I'm not even sure what you're pissed off about.
I thought the whole point of the Belgium debate was that the loser landed on the "easy side" of the draw.
The only teams that England have beaten so far are Tunisia, Panama, Colombia and Sweden. Yes, as OP says, you can only beat what's in front of you but what's been in front of you has by and large been dross hence the whole approach to the Belgium game.
The only teams that England have beaten so far are Tunisia, Panama, Colombia and Sweden. Yes, as OP says, you can only beat what's in front of you but what's been in front of you has by and large been dross hence the whole approach to the Belgium game.
You’re right. I’m the first person in history to not like biased and one eyed coverage of Football. I’m responsible for the countless threads and posts complaining about football coverage on this forum. Of course what I should do is either leave my country if I don’t like it or watch it in a language I don’t understand.
It has been an easier route, surely that can't even be disputed, England teams of the past may still have failed given this route though so I guess credit is due to southgates england.
The talk of bias and not been neutral regarding commentary is a strange one for England, yes in Italy, Belgium etc the commentators are not at all neutral and that's great, it's commentary for their country. Here in the U.K., I'm not sure How it is in Scotland or Ireland but here in Wales we still listen to national BBC radio one, itv news etc and its England England England for weeks, people who know shit about football on the radio getting carried away and singing it's coming home and playing English football songs, it is tedious I'll be honest, then if they do win or get further all the national news and papers will be England crazy where as I really couldn't give a shit about England while living here in Wales, when Wales got quite far (for us) in the euros we just had pieces in the Wales on Sunday and a page in the back of the mirror and it was mainly England just crying about us.
I'm not saying it's wrong or know anyway to change it, just pointing out then when every game we watch on tele is England related even when they're not playing and I'm not English or even living in England it kinda does get on my tits.
The talk of bias and not been neutral regarding commentary is a strange one for England, yes in Italy, Belgium etc the commentators are not at all neutral and that's great, it's commentary for their country. Here in the U.K., I'm not sure How it is in Scotland or Ireland but here in Wales we still listen to national BBC radio one, itv news etc and its England England England for weeks, people who know shit about football on the radio getting carried away and singing it's coming home and playing English football songs, it is tedious I'll be honest, then if they do win or get further all the national news and papers will be England crazy where as I really couldn't give a shit about England while living here in Wales, when Wales got quite far (for us) in the euros we just had pieces in the Wales on Sunday and a page in the back of the mirror and it was mainly England just crying about us.
I'm not saying it's wrong or know anyway to change it, just pointing out then when every game we watch on tele is England related even when they're not playing and I'm not English or even living in England it kinda does get on my tits.
How many others are complaining about bias from a national broadcaster during an international tournament ?
Wales got good coverage on TV in England during the euros.
I'm Wales first, England second, so it would have pissed me off.
What BBC and ITV can't do is cater for every immigrant that might be here.
If other home nations were involved and there was an issue then I'd be understandind of the need to discuss.
Exactly. We've lost to the so called 'lesser teams' in the past. Most recently, Iceland in the Euros.
Also came second in a group, where, on paper, we should be winning easily.
Southgate has come in. Doesn't give a damn about what the media say. He's done it his way, and so far, he's reaped the benefits.
Its been a favorable draw, you can't deny it. Germany's 2002 squad was considered one of their worst in recent times at the beginning of the event. Their ease of passage to the final including their group was discussed and so was Italy's but tbh England have more haters than those countries
. Comes with the territory.ffs
Both teams played their second string and were already through, if England had won that game people would say we only beat Belgium because they rested their best players.
Its been a favorable draw, you can't deny it. Germany's 2002 squad was considered one of their worst in recent times at the beginning of the event. Their ease of passage to the final including their group was discussed and so was Italy's but tbh England have more haters than those countries
Lou. I respect that you make no bones about your bitterness.
Remember England handed that German team their first ever competitive loss on home soil in a a World Cup qualifier 1-5. Good times.
They got good coverage on TV yea and they got savage and Saunders in. I didn't hear radio 1 going all manics mad and playing Welsh football songs and bigging Wales up though because I doubt the English who were already knocked out really wanted to hear it.
I know it can't be helped but that doesn't stop it grating. Just pointing out Both Wales and England pay the tv license so when you go on about national broadcasters can be biased in their own country guess you're forgetting about us in little old Wales.
Then some things I've read from England fans in this thread they don't even know the difference between Wales and Ireland were so insignificant to them
And a quick edit for you. Wales is not an immigrant to the uk
so I don't know why you brought up immigrants.You have beaten Tunisia (barely), Panama and Sweden. You scraped past Colombia on penalties. You've done very little.
I don't now why you feel the need to be praised. The excitement of being in the WC semi final should be more than enough without pining for fake praise that you wouldn't extend to any other big football nation who'd beaten those sides.
I don't now why you feel the need to be praised. The excitement of being in the WC semi final should be more than enough without pining for fake praise that you wouldn't extend to any other big football nation who'd beaten those sides.
The whole " bring it home" thing it's so cringe worthy. That alone makes me root for England to crash out.
There hasn't been an easier run to a final than what England has had. They've lost to the only quality team they've faced.
At the same time, that's what the tournament had presented them.
There hasn't been an easier run to a final than what England has had. They've lost to the only quality team they've faced.
At the same time, that's what the tournament had presented them.
Read my post again. My background is Welsh, born in England.They got good coverage on TV yea and they got savage and Saunders in. I didn't hear radio 1 going all manics mad and playing Welsh football songs and bigging Wales up though because I doubt the English who were already knocked out really wanted to hear it.
I know it can't be helped but that doesn't stop it grating. Just pointing out Both Wales and England pay the tv license so when you go on about national broadcasters can be biased in their own country guess you're forgetting about us in little old Wales.
Then some things I've read from England fans in this thread they don't even know the difference between Wales and Ireland were so insignificant to them
And a quick edit for you. Wales is not an immigrant to the uk
I'm not referring to the home nations as immigrants.
So grating that you forgot it's actually "It's coming home."
Still you got the attention you craved.
At least get the song right if you are going to criticise......
Read my post again. My background is Welsh, born in England.
I'm not referring to the home nations as immigrants.
I did read your post and I seen the bit you said wales first yea, you did bring up itv bbc not being able to cater for every immigrant here when I had a little whinge about us in wales having to put up with all this coming home nonsense though
Just seemed funny, it’s all good
Thanks for making my point.