Nobody wants to be leader right now though - they want to ensure that when May goes she gets blamed for everything so the next person can come to power clean - I reckon the next leader of the Tories will likely be somebody not tainted by all of this so possibly somebody not that well known yet.
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Nobody wants to be leader right now though - they want to ensure that when May goes she gets blamed for everything so the next person can come to power clean - I reckon the next leader of the Tories will likely be somebody not tainted by all of this so possibly somebody not that well known yet.
Nice, Farage and the rest of his shit cnuts will have plenty of opportunities to make a killing thanks to the turmoil of sterling in the markets.
The amendments have destroyed her proposals as far as far as I can see. I was just about getting my head round them too.
And I hate laughing smilies, so, apologies, but I think I may be losing my mind.
The ERG can ensure no deal even without parliament being involved. Just spoil everything till May runs out of time.
True, but feels like push has to come to shove eventually. And probably soon.
Yeah, the amendments are essentially reversals of her negotiating position. The paper is useless.The amendments have destroyed her proposals as far as far as I can see. I was just about getting my head round them too.
And I hate laughing smilies, so, apologies, but I think I may be losing my mind.
We're absolutely fecked.
And in the meantime, businesses are just going to wait and see what happens , yeah right .. or perhaps they'll decide they need to take steps sooner than later.
Transition period, you're having a laugh...
Transition period, you're having a laugh...
For you Englishmen - how well spread is Brexit support truly in your circles? I. E. Other than my insane in laws I know very few people who don't rip on Trump every opportunity they get - and I know a pretty diverse crowd. Just curious if they seemingly large amount of support in the referendum at the time matches the reality on the streets.
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Well given the US voting figures you obviously don't know a pretty diverse crowd, or you'd know a lot more Trump supporters wouldn't you? To be fair that probably goes for all of us, it's a case of whether one has the imagination to realise it.
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Let's just say I know plenty of people who are members of the RNC and either are close to or have held high functions in the party. That's probably indicative enough of the diversity in the sense those are the ones you d figure have nowhere to hide. I do know there are plenty around who support Trump. Some are even friends. But at the very least they re not openly admitting they support him. I would figure it's the same in the case of Brexit.
Ok, sorry mate, when you said you knew very few people who were anti-Trump I thought you meant you knew very few people who were anti-Trump.
Anna Soubry pretending to give a toss about ordinary and even vulnerable people, before following the government into the voting lobbies. Rinse and repeat.
Article 50 revoked and another election
She's rebelled against her party on Brexit a number of times. But when someone is only interested in who it is speaking rather than what it is they say, rinse and repeat is probably right.
"Hi"
You're a Tory talking rubbish
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It's Jez, let him speak!
Tribal politics at a time when the country needs a sensible, cross-party solution to this absolute shit storm is the worst.
Government want to bring recess forward by 4 days. Pathetic, cowardly bunch.
Tories are a waste of space.
No tories voted for a customs union either, classic Soubry
Seriously? They already get far too long.
They shouldn't be allowed to feck off for 6 weeks with Brexit in the state it's in.
Nobody voted for Thatcher. Allegedly.
Hey, no need for tribal politics. They're all lovely.
Apart from Corbyn obviously, he's a cnut.
Agreed. Deadline rapidly approaching, government doesn't even have a negotiating position yet and they want to feck off on holiday. But what else can they do? Everything has been about kicking it into the long grass. The 'Chequers Summit' was supposed to be that long grass and look how that worked out.
Or Blair.
I find it weird that you have to dig in to the UK section of the BBC website to even see this. Seems they've just gone full global now and don't care about the shitstorm their own country is in unless Trump is involved.
I is still surprised that you guys are surprised. It was gonna be a hard Brexit from the start and it's still obviously the case.
It will take a different government with a stronger mandate and a lengthy, unconstrained negation before an agreement with the EU can be reached and put before the parliament. I don't expect that to happen in the next 5 years. It will be hard brexit for a while, for sure.
It will take a different government with a stronger mandate and a lengthy, unconstrained negation before an agreement with the EU can be reached and put before the parliament. I don't expect that to happen in the next 5 years. It will be hard brexit for a while, for sure.
Looks like the hard version passed 305-302?
Nothing has surprised me . Hard Brexit for a while? They won't rejoin or be able to rejoin anytime in the foreseeable future. They can't say, "we don't like it, can we come back", this is the decision for many years at least.
Preach
You keep saying this but everything we hear from everyone on the EU side is that they'd like UK to completely rethink the idea, yet you seem to be under the impression they want us out and fast. Where do you get this information from because I've never found a single quote from anyone of note from the other side who has ever said anything like this.
Nothing about this was inevitable.
she voted against negotiating a customs union about half an hour ago
Good to know Parliament is just wasting its time or anything...
And Corbyn tried to whip is own members into abstaining in a vote on the Lords that would have defeated the government on plans for the customs union. Incredible that the leader of the opposition helping the govt on a vote on the very same issue bothers you not but you seem to give a load of fecks that a Tory MP voted with her own party.
People seem genuinely upset that people have listened to someone say something and agreed with it. It's a wonder politics is in the state it's in if such an act is clearly a 'red line' for some.
he voted for negotiating a customs union about half an hour ago, it's not like he's saying one thing and doing another like the various tories who have been bigged up here
Eh? Who talked about rejoining? All I am saying, is that there will be a "no deal" departure. WTO rules and all that. Then, 5-6 years down the line (maybe more), a different government will negotiate a Norway type deal.
I find it hard to agree with you. There was no strong incentive from either side (EU or Britain) to reach a soft-Brexit deal. And it wasn't easy for any party, let alone a Tory government, to ignore the referendum results.
This is playing out exactly as I expected it to. They are just stalling and wasting time but everyone knows how this is going.
I don't think this is it. I think they're very comfortable leading with UK stories just not this one as the vast majority of people are bored out of their mind by Brexit and have no interest in reading about the latest developments.
Time for Leavers to magically make this country the rich Singapore-land they've promised.