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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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I’m checking out the Italian and German ones of these now. They are clunky for sure, but seen worse. I’ve learnt that Brexit is feminine in Italian and masculine in German though.
I mean the biggest problem with these is apparent when you go back to the English original. That too is complete gibberish, filled with political pull quotes and utter vagaries. You can’t translate this and have it make logical sense in any language, because its complete bollocks in English.
 
I’m checking out the Italian and German ones of these now. They are clunky for sure, but seen worse. I’ve learnt that Brexit is feminine in Italian and masculine in German though.
The German one reads like it was translated word for word by someone who learned the language to a good level at university, but has little to no experience speaking it. So the grammar is mostly fine, but the word choice and tone is quite odd. It's certainly nothing like the bureaucratic German you'd expect to find in an official document.
 
The German one reads like it was translated word for word by someone who learned the language to a good level at university, but has little to no experience speaking it. So the grammar is mostly fine, but the word choice and tone is quite odd. It's certainly nothing like the bureaucratic German you'd expect to find in an official document.
Yes, indeed. I can hear the English voice behind it when reading it. I was 99% sure that it was not translated by a native German speaker.
 
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I dunno. I think the removal of right to free movement was very high on their list, and they are prepared to sacrifice brits living, retiring or working abroad to that end.

All these clowns and buffoons are interested in is themselves and that not only for the Tories but all the political parties, but hey one day this will come back to bite them and mark my words the day of reckoning for these people will come. In a worse case Scenario I would have to take German Citizenship which I do not particularly want to because I am British regardless of where I live.
 
All these clowns and buffoons are interested in is themselves and that not only for the Tories but all the political parties, but hey one day this will come back to bite them and mark my words the day of reckoning for these people will come. In a worse case Scenario I would have to take German Citizenship which I do not particularly want to because I am British regardless of where I live.

You should hurry up if you’re going to apply. Doesn’t Germany only accept duel nationality with other EU nations?
 
You should hurry up if you’re going to apply. Doesn’t Germany only accept duel nationality with other EU nations?

As far as I know due to the EU at the moment I can have both but actually getting it through before Brexit I dont think that there is time enough anymore add to that the fact that before you could go to the Ausländerbehörde (Office for non Germans) pull a ticket then at some point you would see someone, now you have to make an appointment which is usually 3 months later which can only be done online or over the telephone.

Politicians from both Brussels and the UK finally need to stop faffing about and finally sort out something for the EU citizens in the UK and the UK citizens in Europe instead of try to make brownie points against each other, people have a right to know what will happen and through which hoops they have to spring through to stay where they are and work etc.

On another level personally I am against dual nationality you are either one or the other but that still should not be the cause of problems for people to live and move in another country.
 
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As far as I know due to the EU at the moment I can have both but actually getting it through before Brexit I dont think that there is time enough anymore add to that the fact that before you could go to the Ausländerbehörde (Office for non Germans) pull a ticket then at some point you would see someone, now you have to make an appointment which is usually 3 months later which can only be done online or over the telephone.

Politicians from both Brussels and the UK finally need to stop faffing about and finally sort out something for the EU citizens in the UK and the UK citizens in Europe instead of try to make brownie points against each other, people have a right to know what will happen and through which hoops they have to spring through to stay where they are and work etc.

It might still be a good idea to at least start the process, as if you try afterwards they might be looking at applications very differently. I'm a UK citizen in France, and here its a bit easier as they allow duel nationality without the EU only restriction, but I don't have the 5 years yet, so I'm just generally fecked if it all goes south.

I blame the UK government 100% for this. They were the ones who insisted on this whole 'Nothings agreed until everything is agreed' shite, they wanted to use the EU citizens in the UK as bargaining chips and were perfectly willing to hang us out to dry in the process. After two years of not knowing what the feck is going to happen, I've long given up any hope that they're suddenly going to pull their heads out of their asses and produce some amazing solution. At this point I think we all just need to start doing whatever we can to look out for ourselves.
 
It might still be a good idea to at least start the process, as if you try afterwards they might be looking at applications very differently. I'm a UK citizen in France, and here its a bit easier as they allow duel nationality without the EU only restriction, but I don't have the 5 years yet, so I'm just generally fecked if it all goes south.

I blame the UK government 100% for this. They were the ones who insisted on this whole 'Nothings agreed until everything is agreed' shite, they wanted to use the EU citizens in the UK as bargaining chips and were perfectly willing to hang us out to dry in the process. After two years of not knowing what the feck is going to happen, I've long given up any hope that they're suddenly going to pull their heads out of their asses and produce some amazing solution. At this point I think we all just need to start doing whatever we can to look out for ourselves.

Did you ask for a carte de séjour?
 
Theresa May's performance in front of the select committee was a disgrace. She didn't even understand the document she had in front of her.
You listen to Dorries, Hoey and our MPs in general. You get the feeling these guys would struggle to get a job in the real world. Where the feck do we find these people?
 
Theresa May's performance in front of the select committee was a disgrace. She didn't even understand the document she had in front of her.
You listen to Dorries, Hoey and our MPs in general. You get the feeling these guys would struggle to get a job in the real world. Where the feck do we find these people?

It's a mystery, our former employment minister had no idea about how many types of minimum wages we had in France. And she has a doctorate in Economy.
 
It's a mystery, our former employment minister had no idea about how many types of minimum wages we had in France. And she has a doctorate in Economy.
These guys are usually political appointees even before they have left uni. They don't have a fecking clue how the real world works. Our PM couldn't answer a simple yes or no question if her proposal means we would collect tariffs for the EU. Did she even read it?
Dorries, one of the cheerleaders of brexit still doesn't know the difference between the CU and SM.
 
These guys are usually political appointees even before they have left uni. They don't have a fecking clue how the real world works. Our PM couldn't answer a simple yes or no question if her proposal means we would collect tariffs for the EU. Did she even read it?

I think she knows but if you read it, it's way too stupid to say it out loud. Personally, I would have asked her why would companies use the UK as a transit to the EU, the main entry ports are on the continent(Rotterdam and Antwerp) and companies can easily produce directly on the continent too.
 
I think it's coming. At this point it's inevitable.
Politicians in Germany starting to prepare the people and the companies for the hard hit the EU is gonna take, when Britain is leaving.
 
I think she knows but if you read it, it's way too stupid to say it out loud. Personally, I would have asked her why would companies use the UK as a transit to the EU, the main entry ports are on the continent(Rotterdam and Antwerp) and companies can easily produce directly on the continent too.
Shipping - for example Southern Ireland to Europe for long loads is shocking - not enough direct capacity so most of the time we have to ship into the uk to ship onwards (same to get holland to southern ireland - transits through uk)
I suspect if nothing else Brexit will lead to a fair bit of port works and some new ferry routes
 
Shipping - for example Southern Ireland to Europe for long loads is shocking - not enough direct capacity so most of the time we have to ship into the uk to ship onwards (same to get holland to southern ireland - transits through uk)
I suspect if nothing else Brexit will lead to a fair bit of port works and some new ferry routes
A new Ferry corridor is mentioned in the EU proposal. Planning for everything.

*seeing southern ireland written down breaks my heart a little bit. We're just Ireland...
 
Shipping - for example Southern Ireland to Europe for long loads is shocking - not enough direct capacity so most of the time we have to ship into the uk to ship onwards (same to get holland to southern ireland - transits through uk)
I suspect if nothing else Brexit will lead to a fair bit of port works and some new ferry routes

That's the key here and the point of my question. The new ferry corridor is a better idea from the EU standpoint.
 
A new Ferry corridor is mentioned in the EU proposal. Planning for everything.

*seeing southern ireland written down breaks my heart a little bit. We're just Ireland...

perhaps thats actually one solution... (though I suspect enough people would literally fight against that... wee jimmy krankie would also throw her tartan toys out of the pram)
 
If the EU don't want a hard-right government in the UK I think they will prefer us to leave with no-deal. Any compromise now will just lead to morons like Farage and Rees-Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime whipping up a 'betrayal' and the whole issue will begin again with the UK looking for further concessions.

I think the EU will just let us eat the shit sandwhich we've been knocking up for the past few years so that we can decide for ourselves that we don't like the aftertaste so much.
 
If the EU don't want a hard-right government in the UK I think they will prefer us to leave with no-deal. Any comprimise now will just lead to morons like Farage and Rees-Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime whipping up a 'betrayal' and the whole issue will begin again with the UK looking for further concessions.

I think the EU will just let us eat the shit sandwhich we've been knocking up for the past few years so that we can decide for ourselves that we don't like the aftertaste so much.

Could be - my own personal feel is that both sides are talking up no deal so that the shitty deal they serve up will be more palatable in comparison...

I suppose the big question is suppose the UK simply said we wont pay a penny towards a boarder in Ireland and we wont enforce it... what would happen then - would the EU impose it with the likley reprocussions - would the government in Dublin sanction such a move?

hopefully it does not come to that and we can all hold our nose and eat our shit sandwich and give it a decade or so before holding a vote to rejoin...
 
Looks like Barnier has told May and her White Paper to feck off.
Also, Brexiteers have launched another conspiracy. Remainders are intentionally slowing down the economy.

This country is in trouble. I'm just happy I'm young enough to emigrate. I don't have a family, very open to learning a new language. I can assimilate pretty quickly.
 
Could be - my own personal feel is that both sides are talking up no deal so that the shitty deal they serve up will be more palatable in comparison...

I suppose the big question is suppose the UK simply said we wont pay a penny towards a boarder in Ireland and we wont enforce it... what would happen then - would the EU impose it with the likley reprocussions - would the government in Dublin sanction such a move?

hopefully it does not come to that and we can all hold our nose and eat our shit sandwich and give it a decade or so before holding a vote to rejoin...

If the UK don't enforce the border they will be violating WTO rules so not only would they have left the EU but have WTO sanctions as well, difficult to trade with anyone.
 
Could be - my own personal feel is that both sides are talking up no deal so that the shitty deal they serve up will be more palatable in comparison...

I suppose the big question is suppose the UK simply said we wont pay a penny towards a boarder in Ireland and we wont enforce it... what would happen then - would the EU impose it with the likley reprocussions - would the government in Dublin sanction such a move?

hopefully it does not come to that and we can all hold our nose and eat our shit sandwich and give it a decade or so before holding a vote to rejoin...
I think the EU are being generous even offering us a few options. It might hurt them in the short term but imo, it would be best for them for us to crash out without a deal.
I've been saying this for a few years, brexit could end up being one of the best things that happens to the EU.
 
I think the EU are being generous even offering us a few options. It might hurt them in the short term but imo, it would be best for them for us to crash out without a deal.
I've been saying this for a few years, brexit could end up being one of the best things that happens to the EU.
I run the UK arm of a dutch company... within that I utilise UK government funding to export worldwide... we have similar set ups in 6 EU countries and continental bases in Africa Asia and the Americas
I know from our point of view being a dutch based company that the best thing is not for the UK to crash out due to the potential uncertainty in ongoing agreed contracts and pricing future works.
Politically neither side may be prepared to back down but if they took the polititians and civil servants away and let a bunch of pragmatic business people have a couple of weeks at it I suspect we would have something far more workable
My own view was that the best thing for both parties would have been to stay - but being a pragmatist I think both sides could make a success of brexit - sadly its being approached as a zero sum political game and its frankly a mess
 
Looks like there's going to be no deal for Brexit :)
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If we do a soft brexit does that mean we'd have to adhere to the EU's new tax regulations next year? Can't see it being anything other than hard brexit if that was the case.
 
Oh look we're back to square one on Irish border issue with time ticking fast...Who could have predicted this...This should have been the first thing on their list to sort out right after the referendum (beforehand actually) as it was clear for anyone with half a brain that it will be legally and technically most difficult one to figure and implement given the red lines. Yet they fecked around on secondary matters and now are going to blame the EU for not agreeing to their fantasy proposals - blame game has began already. Clowns.
 
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Oh look we're back to square one on Irish border issue with time ticking fast...Who could have predicted this...This should have been the first thing on their list to sort out right after the referendum (beforehand actually) as it was clear for anyone with half a brain that it will be legally and technically most difficult one to figure and implement given the red lines. Yet they fecked around on secondary matters and now are going to blame the EU for not agreeing to their fantasy proposals. Clowns.
I think the whole of Brexit should have been sorted out before there was a referendum and the facts spelled out honestly so that people would know what they were voting for. Here we are 2 years later and people still don't know what we actually voted for.

Not only that but the fact that our politicians can't agree on what Brexit means is ripping our parliament to shreds. The whole thing is a massive clusterfeck that could have been avoided.
 
May rejected the backstop plan but offered no solution on preventing a hard border.
 
If we do a soft brexit does that mean we'd have to adhere to the EU's new tax regulations next year? Can't see it being anything other than hard brexit if that was the case.

Yep...

It is possible that Britain would not be subject to these rules if a hard Brexit’ is pushed through Parliament, but were we to remain as a part of the single market, we would be subject to these laws and would be forced to be more transparent in our harboring of shell companies and intermediaries.

https://medium.com/the-jist/was-eu-...reason-for-the-brexit-referendum-980ba88a8077