José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances

[Womp]

He's such a miserable git.

Not happy with the preseason, not happy with the transfers, not happy with the quality of his squad blah blah. What the feck is he happy with then?

Both City and Tottenham are in the same situation as us and you don't see either of Pep or Poch moaning like a miserable fecker and making excuses of being at a "disadvantage" even before the season has started.

Genuine question, would you want a manager who was happy being a yes man? A manager should never be happy if they aren't winning. Pep isn't saying the same because he's got the reigning champions and a stronger squad than us, he's hardly a saint either as he's shown throughout his time as a manager and Poch has won feck all, has no expectation at Spurs and has had longer with his squad. To compare them is just silly, one needs to win, the other doesn't.

I wouldn't mind if we started looking at other managers but Jose's drive to win has always been something I've appreciated. It was the same under SAF.

 

[Canagel]

http://www.espn.com/soccer/manchest...s-to-answer-manchester-united-title-questions

Jose getting his excuses in for Leicester already I see.

So Leicester apparently have a huge advantage over us because they have more players back from the world cup... This is such an unbelievable situation. The expectations could not have been lowered any less than they have been by Mourinho in the last two weeks.

 

[Womp]

All that being said, he is bringing it upon himself, he needs to just shut up with the excuses now. If you fail, it wasn't down to isolated events, you have more than a single game to get things right, he'd have ample opportunity.

Managers in general these days all just seem like moaning twats, is this a new concept? I never use to notice it as much, maybe I just never paid attention to it. Klopp has come out with some ridiculous ones too. None of them want to accept they might have been wrong or could have done better.

 

[pocco]

They won the league and FA cup, while Conte had troubles with the Board not with the players. Compared to Jose with us Conte did much better. We are miles away from a major title challenge. Lets see what will be Mou's excuse this year, if he fails to perform again.

The following year, as in the season just gone. The one where Conte finished 5th, 11 points behind Jose and got sacked. From PL winners to 5th place...a bit of a trend developing at Chelsea.

 

[Adisa]

 

[Theonas]

Legitimate shot at winning the PL and CL? Considering he's never won the CL and is notorious for bottling finals and Jose has won two, with two different teams, that doesn't really stick. You can't even say Jose's was long outdated, due to him winning a domestic title more recently than Klopp, going by that logic, it's Klopp who needs to update his pov of football. Madrid as of late have done well in the CL playing a style completely different to the Klopp's.

I don't care what the 4th team did, they came 4th. All this nonsense about how Klopp is going to have us looking up at him soon, completely ignoring he's been at Liverpool longer and if anything, since Jose has arrived, we've won more than you and have finished closer to the top than you. Also let's not talk down the Europa League shall we, it's not the most prestigious trophy but it's yet another trophy that Liverpool have failed miserably in as of late.

Klopp plays more entertaining football and gets more of out attacking players, but suggesting he's going to have us looking up at him, when if anything the evidence is suggesting the contrary is just weird to me. People have been saying that since he's got here and in that time we've progressed ahead of them. Maybe not in terms of style but certainly in terms of results.

It is true that Klopp gets overrated by many. This is largely because exciting football and football with substance as in balanced enough to win the biggest trophies are two different things. Klopp gets credit for doing the former and in some cases, it gets mixed with the latter especially by his fans and Mourinho's detractors, which he has not yet shown to be capable of consistently at least.

That's what I disagree with you though, Klopp's failure in that regard is no more an indication of his limitation than his exciting football is an indicator of some inevitable superiority over us. The reason for that is the caliber of teams he was in charge of compared to Mourinho. He lost the Europa final to Sevilla whereas we played Ajax. The gap in experience and finances is simply incomparable. Before that, his league failure was at a significantly handicapped Dortmund relative to Bayern. Mourinho never managed a team in the league that was in a similar position. The defeats in finals were to the likes of Bayern and City which were games where his teams were obviously inferior in a way Mourinho teams are not in the finals they played. Of course we can argue that the coach's job is to find a way but we cannot ignore that both had different tools at their disposals and different challenged to contend with.

Having said that, this all changes now. Liverpool's recent spending and the experience they have accumulated the past few years on top of their undeniable prestige and profile makes them no longer underdogs. They should be expected to challenge and Klopp has a good enough team to be expected to compete with the best in the PL.

 

[Womp]

It is true that Klopp gets overrated by many. This is largely because exciting football and football with substance as in balanced enough to win the biggest trophies are two different things. Klopp gets credit for doing the former and in some cases, it gets mixed with the latter especially by his fans and Mourinho's detractors, which he has not yet shown to be capable of consistently at least.

That's what I disagree with you though, Klopp's failure in that regard is no more an indication of his limitation than his exciting football is an indicator of some inevitable superiority over us. The reason for that is the caliber of teams he was in charge of compared to Mourinho. He lost the Europa final to Sevilla whereas we played Ajax. The gap in experience and finances is simply incomparable. Before that, his league failure was at a significantly handicapped Dortmund relative to Bayern. Mourinho never managed a team in the league that was in a similar position. The defeats in finals were to the likes of Bayern and City which were games where his teams were obviously inferior in a way Mourinho teams are not in the finals they played. Of course we can argue that the coach's job is to find a way but we cannot ignore that both had different tools at their disposals and different challenged to contend with.

Having said that, this all changes now. Liverpool's recent spending and the experience they have accumulated the past few years on top of their undeniable prestige and profile makes them no longer underdogs. They should be expected to challenge and Klopp has a good enough team to be expected to compete with the best in the PL.

Whilst I agree, it can also be used for Jose, no? You're right, a manager's job is to find a way and I would hardly say he was strong favourites in his CL wins, for example. He found a way, wasn't the prettiest but he managed it.

If anything as a manager he should be able to identify that his team is underdogs and set up accordingly. You're not going to be able to press every team off the pitch, tactical stubbornness is a drawback for a manager.

Besides, the point of my post was to provide a realistic view to the whole situation. I'm hardly happy with Jose's job here so far, but people have been saying we are going to be below Liverpool and looking up at them since Klopp joined, in fact even before when Rodgers had the SAS. If anything, since then we've made more progress, speaking purely results wise. When exactly are they going to blow us out of the water and leave us behind? They've been saying it every year for years now. Have we left them behind because they've won feck all in that time and we are finishing higher?

He plays more exciting football but whilst I don't think Jose's brand of football can win a CL anymore, I also think it'll be difficult for managers who can't adapt to opposition to win one either. It's why Zidane etc. did so well at Madrid recently, they could kill you on the counter or take the game to you.

 

[Jonno]

Genuine question, would you want a manager who was happy being a yes man? A manager should never be happy if they aren't winning. Pep isn't saying the same because he's got the reigning champions and a stronger squad than us, he's hardly a saint either as he's shown throughout his time as a manager and Poch has won feck all, has no expectation at Spurs and has had longer with his squad. To compare them is just silly, one needs to win, the other doesn't.

I wouldn't mind if we started looking at other managers but Jose's drive to win has always been something I've appreciated. It was the same under SAF.

Agree with this.

Moyes was happy with everything when he was appointed. He was happy when we would lose at Old Trafford.

 

[maniwin]

I found it's cute how some fans prefer having a sweet lies over ugly truth, like did they know how the world works ? Jose is just so honest with everything.

 

[roonster09]

It's not real. Some Twitter guy made it up.

 

[deafepl]

I know this is probably a dumb question and has been brought up a million times. But if Jose really does leave next summer. Who do you think it's gonna be? I highly doubt Zidane will join, he basically retired with a legendary status of trophies for RM. perfect manager career. It's probably not going to be conte, or Ancelotti. Is still there any manager out there who's positive and has an attacking football style. Some one who isn't dead inside yet? I just thought of Diego Simone who might be the one crazy enough to take this job. But is there any other managers out there that can breath proper life into the club

Nope, if the majority of fans can't stand watching Mourinho's United side, then Simone would be much worse. I think we'll have a shot at Poch if Spurs didn't spend a lot of money and sell top stars. Tuchel probably would be our shortlist wish as Tuchel and Jose depart at the same time in 2020, let see if he can win something bigger like UCL with PSG.

 

[ReallyUSA]

I found it's cute how some fans prefer having a sweet lies over ugly truth, like did they know how the world works ? Jose is just so honest with everything.

Shitting on the squad, and consistently kicking down our most expensive player gets annoying after a while.

 

[maniwin]

Shitting on the squad, and consistently kicking down our most expensive player gets annoying after a while.

If he , an adult gets hurt and cried after being told the truth about how he didn't do enough with United then he should just find a manager who babysit and pampered him everytime. He has enough fans to pamper him and made him feel like he is world best player , no need for the manager to do the same.

 

[ReallyUSA]

If he , an adult gets hurt and cried after being told the truth about how he didn't do enough with United then he should just find a manager who babysit and pampered him everytime. He has enough fans to pamper him and made him feel like he is world best player , no need for the manager to do the same.

Man there is a difference between being pampered, and being publicly talking down on a player. Mou has done it every chance he has got. An adult shouldn't need to speak ill of a worker when asked. Be a professional.

 

[maniwin]

Man there is a difference between being pampered, and being publicly talking down on a player. Mou has done it every chance he has got. An adult shouldn't need to speak ill of a worker when asked. Be a professional.

Pogba play exactly like what Jose demand him to do for France but didn't bother to do it for United, as a manager he has the right to be disappointed and has the right to tell it to everyone. After a season of BS from media and fanbase such as "play him in midfield 3 you Jose Prick" "Free him from defensive duty , you Jose twat" when in the end Pogba proving that he doesn't need to be freed for France and could play as midfield 2 . I would be fuming if i was Jose as well.

 

[SER19]

What he is saying about pogba is absolutely true and i dont believe any professional should be offended or feel put down by it. Jose's mistake is saying it at all now, pogba has just won the world cup so is the side that gets to drive the narrative. If mourinho had just won the title he wouldn't be questioned but right now in terms of media narrative pogba wears the trousers and this should be in house to avoid unnecessary negative press

 

[ZenMaster Coltrane]

Pogba play exactly like what Jose demand him to do for France but didn't bother to do it for United, as a manager he has the right to be disappointed and has the right to tell it to everyone. After a season of BS from media and fanbase such as "play him in midfield 3 you Jose Prick" "Free him from defensive duty , you Jose twat" when in the end Pogba proving that he doesn't need to be freed for France and could play as midfield 2 . I would be fuming if i was Jose as well.

Wrong. Go talk to Conte and Allegri. If you can't understand how much faster France play, how much better technically the French or Juventus players were than this current crop, you really are just a Mourinho lap dog. I couldn't think of a more asinine tone to adopt towards a player whose just come from playing an instrumental role in a WC winning side. He's getting all his excuses out there before the season starts. Why do we even need managers if players should just show up and perform?? How has any of this public slating made Shaw, Martial, Pogba, Rashford significantly better? Horrific man management and ill-suited to the modern player.

 

[Rolaholic]

Wrong. Go talk to Conte and Allegri. If you can't understand how much faster France play, how much better technically the French or Juventus players were than this current crop, you really are just a Mourinho lap dog. I couldn't think of a more asinine tone to adopt towards a player whose just come from playing an instrumental role in a WC winning side. He's getting all his excuses out there before the season starts. Why do we even need managers if players should just show up and perform?? How has any of this public slating made Shaw, Martial, Pogba, Rashford significantly better? Horrific man management and ill-suited to the modern player.

Don't you know that you're a big softie who hates the club if you dare question the boss's decision making, alienating of the talent and assigning of blame to every other external factor?

 

[Quinzaine]

What he is saying about pogba is absolutely true and i dont believe any professional should be offended or feel put down by it. Jose's mistake is saying it at all now, pogba has just won the world cup so is the side that gets to drive the narrative. If mourinho had just won the title he wouldn't be questioned but right now in terms of media narrative pogba wears the trousers and this should be in house to avoid unnecessary negative press

How can you say it is 'absolutely true'. The man once again does everything he can to avoid taking responsibility for something which is HIS job. Mourinho signed Pogba for a record fee. A casual football fan could tell you that Pogba suffered from the way we are set up offensively last season and this was proven at the World Cup. Yet Mourinho's decision is to refuse to take any blame and has essentially said 'I don't know how/am not willing to get the best out of Pogba but I will instead blame Pogba's dedication so when he inevitably plays poorly I will not be the one scrutinized'. Pathetic and cowardly man management as per usual, but hey we're used to this know, and apparently sections of our fans are accepting it too.

 

[SER19]

How can you say it is 'absolutely true'. The man once again does everything he can to avoid taking responsibility for something which is HIS job. Mourinho signed Pogba for a record fee. A casual football fan could tell you that Pogba suffered from the way we are set up offensively last season and this was proven at the World Cup. Yet Mourinho's decision is to refuse to take any blame and has essentially said 'I don't know how/am not willing to get the best out of Pogba but I will instead blame Pogba's dedication so when he inevitably plays poorly I will not be the one scrutinized'. Pathetic and cowardly man management as per usual, but hey we're used to this know, and apparently sections of our fans are accepting it too.

Pogba was frighteninly poor at times last season that had nothing to do with set up. Of course our set up has been hindering players and it can be blamed for alot. Games where a player strolls around the pitch, misplaces simple passes and generally seems to be half arsing everything - while a week later doing the opposite- are down to the player.

Pogba also had a good world cup that has beeb hugely overstated by his fantastic second half in the final

 

[Quinzaine]

Pogba was frighteninly poor at times last season that had nothing to do with set up. Of course our set up has been hindering players and it can be blamed for alot. Games where a player strolls around the pitch, misplaces simple passes and generally seems to be half arsing everything - while a week later doing the opposite- are down to the player.

Pogba also had a good world cup that has beeb hugely overstated by his fantastic second half in the final

I agree, Pogba has responsibility to improve too, but Mourinho is absolutely using him poorly and setting the team up in a way which restricts him. But Mourinho of course will never mention that.

 

[SER19]

I agree, Pogba has responsibility to improve too, but Mourinho is absolutely using him poorly and setting the team up in a way which restricts him. But Mourinho of course will never mention that.

The fact he wont is irritating to a fan but its understandable that he wont. I cant explain why i have sympathy for mourinho but think its to do with the manner our previous 2 managers left. I dont mean to tar all of our players with the same brush but there seems to be some sort of ingrained lethargy since ferguson left. As if 7/10 is good enough. The players have shown they have the stomach, city away was testament to that and pogba individually in a nutshell. Then we lost at home to west brom a week later? For the 3rd time in 4 seasons i think. I always empathise with the manager first and feel like mourinho must be going crazy trying to overturn a culture of less than 100% attitude. The style and set up can change but will be building on sand in my opinion if the fundamentals aren't changed first. If we get players re focused and consistent the football will follow. Thats my take any way

 

[.Rossi]

Fellaini played that night right, and played like dogshite, not for the first time. And Jose fought tooth and nail to keep him.

Not going after starting fullbacks this summer is Jose's call?

How many of our underperforming players have left or seem to be leaving the club? Blind. Darmian? Jones? Rojo? Fellaini?

Fellaini I agree with but, you're honestly telling me that even though he has made it public he's not happy with the squad, that he has decided not to pursue anyone, despite getting two players?

Maybe no one wants them? As evident with Fellaini.
I can't see many clubs bidding for Phil Jones and paying his wages...

 

[JohnnyKills]

So you would want the manger to go into his first season with a 19yr old playing his first full season? Ibra was free and basically scored a lot of goals. Also Rashford has basically been involved in almost all league games last season and hence got selected for the NT for world cup. How can you question what Jose has done for him? . Martial had a year and half to make his wing his own and failed to do it , which forced Mourinho to bring in Sanchez when he became available. It's his own fault and none others. Are you seriously bringing up shaw deserving more minutes? He's been pathetic with his body conditioning and basically shut down by two consecutive managers.

Did you mention about McTominay? Of course not! He's had a good amount of game time coming in from Academy. What about Lingard? Did anyone think he'd start every WC game for England this time last year? Mourinho had worked wonders for him and has changed his carrier from a bench player to a regular England International. Have some perspective for god sake.

Think you might want to dial it down a bit there pal.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

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I found it's cute how some fans prefer having a sweet lies over ugly truth, like did they know how the world works ? Jose is just so honest with everything.

this might be the most ridiculous post I’ve ever seen. Jose honest with everything? The man is a master manipulator. Most things he says has a double meaning. He is not honest by any means. He’s selective of his words in the media and knows exactly how to manipulate a situation to his advantage. I know it’s not popular but everything Jose has done recently is about protecting himself and shifting the blame. Getting his his excuses in early.

The sad thing is the Jose that was at Chelsea first time round would have taken a bullet for his players and they would have done the same. I’ve no idea what happened to that guy but he would have been possibly universally loved at United despite his brand of football.

 

[fellaini's barber]

Fellaini I agree with but, you're honestly telling me that even though he has made it public he's not happy with the squad, that he has decided not to pursue anyone, despite getting two players?

Maybe no one wants them? As evident with Fellaini.
I can't see many clubs bidding for Phil Jones and paying his wages...

Bolded is rubbish and you know it. So if no other clubs want a player you give him a new contract? He's still here after talking shit about us and whoring himself to other clubs and no one was interested.

Rojo's contract would have been running out too but we offered him one months ago. Maybe we did that because no one wanted him either? Such a nice and caring club we are

 

[Greek9]

Why do people ignore the fact that Pogba had KANTE behind him all the time to do the dirty work possibly the best player in Europe to do exactly what Pogba needs to perform upfront, I think he will perform exactly the same with United now with Fred on the team.

 

[GM K]

So Leicester apparently have a huge advantage over us because they have more players back from the world cup... This is such an unbelievable situation. The expectations could not have been lowered any less than they have been by Mourinho in the last two weeks.

Is it so hard to see that this is classic mind game? A deliberate lowering of expectations to ease pressure and make the win bigger than it would have been? And if for whatever reasons they lose or draw, a fall back prediction.
I don't take comments like that seriously especially from managers like Jose and Pep.

 

[promisedlanchiao]

Jose should stop with the excuses. Our side on paper without Lukaku, Pogba, Lingard, Rashford, Young and Jones should still be able to dispose of leicester fairly comfortably, especially a leicester likely without a fully fit vardy and Maguire, either because he’s hopefully signed for us or not match fit yet. I mean, come on, look at this.....

De Gea
Valencia Bailly Smalling Shaw
Matic
Herrera Fred
Pereira
Sanchez Martial

vs

Schmeichel
Simpson Morgan Evans Fuchs
Iborra
Silva Ndidi
Diabate Vardy Albrighton

So, in my opinion if we just come out attacking and try to put them to the sword, which i’m scared we won’t, my prediction would be that we do them 2-0.

 

[.Rossi]

Bolded is rubbish and you know it. So if no other clubs want a player you give him a new contract? He's still here after talking shit about us and whoring himself to other clubs and no one was interested.

Rojo's contract would have been running out too but we offered him one months ago. Maybe we did that because no one wanted him either? Such a nice and caring club we are

If you think Fellaini was hot property and is still here despite being wanted by other clubs, you're the one talking shite pal

He signed an extension, as late as possible, why exactly? Because we're the only club that offered him the contract? Or, because he loves the club and the fans so much?

 

[Summit]

If you think Fellaini was hot property and is still here despite being wanted by other clubs, you're the one talking shite pal

He signed an extension, as late as possible, why exactly? Because we're the only club that offered him the contract? Or, because he loves the club and the fans so much?

Obviously he was offered contracts elsewhere, but they weren't appealing to him. I'm shocked you'd think he didn't get any offers

 

[Greek9]

Jose should stop with the excuses. Our side on paper without Lukaku, Pogba, Lingard, Rashford, Young and Jones should still be able to dispose of leicester fairly comfortably, especially a leicester likely without a fully fit vardy and Maguire, either because he’s hopefully signed for us or not match fit yet. I mean, come on, look at this.....

De Gea
Valencia Bailly Smalling Shaw
Matic
Herrera Fred
Pereira
Sanchez Martial

vs

Schmeichel
Simpson Morgan Evans Fuchs
Iborra
Silva Ndidi
Diabate Vardy Albrighton

So, in my opinion if we just come out attacking and try to put them to the sword, which i’m scared we won’t, my prediction would be that we do them 2-0.

I don't he cares solely about the first League game, I think it makes a difference to have missing players in preseason that will affect more than just the first game, I mean Fred has never played with the team yet, it should take him some time to settle in,that time would better be the preseason lol, you can't have a fresh start like that and it will probably show with the likes of Arsenal beating City in the first day, good thing our starting schedule is 'easy'.

 

[.Rossi]

Obviously he was offered contracts elsewhere, but they weren't appealing to him. I'm shocked you'd think he didn't get any offers

My opinion of him is that low...

 

[fellaini's barber]

If you think Fellaini was hot property and is still here despite being wanted by other clubs, you're the one talking shite pal

He signed an extension, as late as possible, why exactly? Because we're the only club that offered him the contract? Or, because he loves the club and the fans so much?

You're still talking shite, we're talking about why shite players are still here and you keep trying to look for excuses for Jose instead of admitting that like Fellaini and Rojo, he's actively trying to keep them and does not see them as shite. How can you give 'no other club wants them' as a reason why some players are here when we're busy giving the likes of Fellaini and Rojo new contracts on Jose's request?

 

[.Rossi]

You're still talking shite, we're talking about why shite players are still here and you keep trying to look for excuses for Jose instead of admitting that like Fellaini and Rojo, he's actively trying to keep them and does not see them as shite. How can you give 'no other club wants them' as a reason why some players are here when we're busy giving the likes of Fellaini and Rojo new contracts on Jose's request?

I'm not making excuses for him keeping Fellaini? Where did I say that? Or, are you just pushing your agenda by putting words in my mouth?

I hate the fact he's still here. Me saying he's still here because no one else wanted him is not a defence of Mourinho and certainly not the player! As I said, Fellaini is not here for the love of the club or the fans

 

[GM K]

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this might be the most ridiculous post I’ve ever seen. Jose honest with everything? The man is a master manipulator. Most things he says has a double meaning. He is not honest by any means. He’s selective of his words in the media and knows exactly how to manipulate a situation to his advantage. I know it’s not popular but everything Jose has done recently is about protecting himself and shifting the blame. Getting his his excuses in early.

The sad thing is the Jose that was at Chelsea first time round would have taken a bullet for his players and they would have done the same. I’ve no idea what happened to that guy but he would have been possibly universally loved at United despite his brand of football.

This seems a bit judgemental. How exactly do you know this? How do you know Jose's motives and mind? Are you close to him? Have you spoken to people close to him? Do you know what most of his players think of him? I am a journalist and I can tell you this: most people are not who they appear to be in the media. I have observed over the years that the 'good' guys are often not as good as they appear after you have engaged them one on one. And the 'bad' guys are often not as bad as they appear too. A number of Jose's ex players have spoken fondly of him but it's the news of the controversial instances that are most blown up. The interesting thing is that players reported to have had mega issues with him - players he has 'thrown under the bus' - seem to relate pretty fine with him. Lukaku and Mata are classic examples. Even opposition players like Cesc Fabregas and Pedro have said he is very different from the guy they thought he was. I remember back at Inter then, there were strong rumours that Zlatan was leaving Inter because of a Mourinho fallout. Well, we all know that wasn't true. Maybe it is not all about him as you have concluded. Maybe he genuinely feels for his job, his players and the club. Just Maybe.

 

[fellaini's barber]

I'm not making excuses for him keeping Fellaini? Where did I say that? Or, are you just pushing your agenda by putting words in my mouth?

I hate the fact he's still here. Me saying he's still here because no one else wanted him is not a defence of Mourinho and certainly not the player! As I said, Fellaini is not here for the love of the club or the fans

Fair enough
What a fecking window though. Team not improved, all the deadwood still here which is really what's pissing me off the most. We've only sold Blind, and there are lots of players here who I would have prefered to have gone before him. I honestly don't know where people are expecting improvement from next season. Same fullbacks poor in attack, same players upfront who never seemed to have an attacking plan. Let's hope something happens over the next 2 weeks

 

[Womp]

You're still talking shite, we're talking about why shite players are still here and you keep trying to look for excuses for Jose instead of admitting that like Fellaini and Rojo, he's actively trying to keep them and does not see them as shite. How can you give 'no other club wants them' as a reason why some players are here when we're busy giving the likes of Fellaini and Rojo new contracts on Jose's request?

Whilst I agree, I think some context is due. Fellaini, Rojo etc. are squad players and it's been made apparent we don't have an infinite budget given we seemingly have to choose either a CB or fullbacks and the whole thing with Perisic, to name a few. Replacing players like Fellaini and Rojo with other squaddies would significantly dent our available funds imo, especially given they don't seem to be fetching much.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

This seems a bit judgemental. How exactly do you know this? How do you know Jose's motives and mind? Are you close to him? Have you spoken to people close to him? Do you know what most of his players think of him? I am a journalist and I can tell you this: most people are not who they appear to be in the media. I have observed over the years that the 'good' guys are often not as good as they appear after you have engaged them one on one. And the 'bad' guys are often not as bad as they appear too. A number of Jose's ex players have spoken fondly of him but it's the news of the controversial instances that are most blown up. The interesting thing is that players reported to have had mega issues with him - players he has 'thrown under the bus' - seem to relate pretty fine with him. Lukaku and Mata are classic examples. Even opposition players like Cesc Fabregas and Pedro have said he is very different from the guy they thought he was. I remember back at Inter then, there were strong rumours that Zlatan was leaving Inter because of a Mourinho fallout. Well, we all know that wasn't true. Maybe it is not all about him as you have concluded. Maybe he genuinely feels for his job, his players and the club. Just Maybe.

I guess it’s an opinion based on viewing someone for what 10-15 years seeing how he acts and how he uses situations to influence things and how he can say one thing that is quite clearly a side dig at someone but have it be scuttle enough he can deny all knowledge. He doesn’t say things without thinking them through and in my opinion he often talks with double meaning or in a manner that what he says is strong enough to get his message across but open to interpretation, so if it backfires he can claim his innocence.

Slightly funny but again his pronounciation of Contes name when he was having his little spat with him, again I’m pretty positive Jose knew what he was doing there, or maybe in Italy that is how you pronounce it and Jose was being respectful.

 

[Aloysius's Back 3]

This seems a bit judgemental. How exactly do you know this? How do you know Jose's motives and mind? Are you close to him? Have you spoken to people close to him? Do you know what most of his players think of him? I am a journalist and I can tell you this: most people are not who they appear to be in the media. I have observed over the years that the 'good' guys are often not as good as they appear after you have engaged them one on one. And the 'bad' guys are often not as bad as they appear too. A number of Jose's ex players have spoken fondly of him but it's the news of the controversial instances that are most blown up. The interesting thing is that players reported to have had mega issues with him - players he has 'thrown under the bus' - seem to relate pretty fine with him. Lukaku and Mata are classic examples. Even opposition players like Cesc Fabregas and Pedro have said he is very different from the guy they thought he was. I remember back at Inter then, there were strong rumours that Zlatan was leaving Inter because of a Mourinho fallout. Well, we all know that wasn't true. Maybe it is not all about him as you have concluded. Maybe he genuinely feels for his job, his players and the club. Just Maybe.

This is the same reason why no one should judge Martial's personality - pretending to be close to him & acting like we understand his motives & mind.

If people continue to judge inside of Martial's book & mind by observing the cover of it - then i do not see why people can't do the same for Jose Mourinho & be judgmental by what we see on the outside.

We should not do this for both players & managers of the club.

Martial's work rate is as good as Lukaku's when he has the ball at his feet - however he is deemed lazy & lethargic due to his clear weaknesses in his defensive abilities & off the ball movement. These are weaknesses & are not a representation of his personality. If this is so - it can be true to every player & manager with weaknesses.