Peterson, Harris, etc....

Is that the guy posing as a liberal to piss of liberals?

Meh, fine I'll take a look. Where can I find this stuff? :)

I was joking. You can find Shaprio talking to Rubin on his YouTube. Its so cringeworthy that its actually a bit entertaining.
 
I was joking. You can find Shaprio talking to Rubin on his YouTube. Its so cringeworthy that its actually a bit entertaining.
Damnit, I have no sound at work. I'll sneak to the bathroom and give it a listen..
 
Why didn't you just say he's like the nerd from big bang theory. I would have got the gist.
 
Cenk Uygur is really an idiot sometimes. I really liked watching TYT even though I often disagree with them but it has become more difficult recently.
 
So she eats nothing but meat?

I love a good steak, but that sounds unhealthy as feck. She's also a 7 at best. Bunch of beta's commenting on how hot she is am I right?!

I hope the Peterson family don't have a history of cancer. All that IGF-1 will eventually catch up to her.
 
Jordan Peterson only eats beef. I'm at work but there's a video of him discussing it with Joe Rogan. Says it solved (I don't want to say cured) their depression and his daughter's other issues, I think she had autoimmune difficulties?
 
I'm so glad I don't have social media.

On the topic, I see a lot of criticism of Harris, but every time I read or heard him in full articles/interviews he seems to be a rational guy with pretty good points. Maybe I've missed the crazy stuff.
 
I'm so glad I don't have social media.

On the topic, I see a lot of criticism of Harris, but every time I read or heard him in full articles/interviews he seems to be a rational guy with pretty good points. Maybe I've missed the crazy stuff.

That's generally the best way to evaluate all these guys - read the entire book or watch the entire lecture and decide for yourself, rather than having some anonymous twitter troll lift a cherrypicked passage.
 
I prefer to just skim redcafe comments and poorly reiterate them to friends to express my world view
 
I'm so glad I don't have social media.

On the topic, I see a lot of criticism of Harris, but every time I read or heard him in full articles/interviews he seems to be a rational guy with pretty good points. Maybe I've missed the crazy stuff.
Same. I think the contention and criticism of Harris is based on his opinion about Islam. I could be mistaken because I haven't heard his thoughts on that particular religion. I watched an old debate with him, 2 rabbis and Christopher Hitchens recently. It was very good.
 
Same. I think the contention and criticism of Harris is based on his opinion about Islam. I could be mistaken because I haven't heard his thoughts on that particular religion. I watched an old debate with him, 2 rabbis and Christopher Hitchens recently. It was very good.

Its definitely his Islamism critiques that draw the ire of the PC left. Reza Aslan and Glenn Greenwald were initially the main ringleaders of criticizing "the new atheists", which was then followed by the likes of CJ Werleman and eventually led to flare ups like the Bill Maher exchange with Affleck that catapulted things from fringe social media spat to something more mainstream. The narrative then quickly switched from a critique of Islamism to framing anyone who criticized it as a Islamophobic. No one really cares much about Harris's writings on Christianity (for which he is also critical) or Neurocscience. Its usually the same expired polemic about why he hates Islam.
 
Its definitely his Islamism critiques that draw the ire of the PC left. Reza Aslan and Glenn Greenwald were initially the main ringleaders of criticizing "the new atheists", which was then followed by the likes of CJ Werleman and eventually led to flare ups like the Bill Maher exchange with Affleck that catapulted things from fringe social media spat to something more mainstream. The narrative then quickly switched from a critique of Islamism to framing anyone who criticized it as a Islamophobic. No one really cares much about Harris's writings on Christianity (for which he is also critical) or Neurocscience. Its usually the same expired polemic about why he hates Islam.

In terms of ridicule, I think it's obvious he even holds back a bit when talking about islam. When he talks about christianity he's much more relaxed and attacks deeper, which is understandable. However he points out the obvious, currently islam has a much more real impact in our lives than christianity. I guess that's where the criticism comes from, but I never found it to be fair.

Some of the other guys mentioned in this thread say shit just to stay in the headlines, I don't put Harris in that category. It's clear he prefers to talk about neuroscience or meditation. In fact meditation is the area where he loses me a bit, sounds a bit weird sometimes but harmless.
 
I think Harris probably took the biggest hit recently with the racism charges after Vox and others went after him for daring to give Murray of The Bell Curve notoriety a podcast episode. It kind of took off into an uproar, which was amusing because I don’t think most people that were offended actually listened to the interview.
 
I think Harris probably took the biggest hit recently with the racism charges after Vox and others went after him for daring to give Murray of The Bell Curve notoriety a podcast episode. It kind of took off into an uproar, which was amusing because I don’t think most people that were offended actually listened to the interview.

I listened to his podcast with Klein. It was basically a stalemate of Klein moaning about Harris (ie "you rarely have black guests on your podcast" etc) and Harris being defensive about Klein's approach.
 
We are all Jordan Peterson...



(Edit): El-Baghdadi’s whole thread there is worth a read through.