No it won't. And lots of people believe Mourinho is the disease.Tell you what, on first home match of the season, huge applaud for Jose and chants for support will shut all this nonsense from players and their agents. I know its weird but sometimes you need to swallow bitter pill to cure bigger disease.
What about if Moyes had wanted to sell De Gea?I remember some fans saying it was time for Fergie to go after Beckham was sold.
As a chairman, I'd always back the manager over any player.
As a fan, I'd love to get a progressive manager in and see him get the absolute best out of Paul Pogba. I think he'd stay but has simply fallen out with Mourinho.
I remember some fans saying it was time for Fergie to go after Beckham was sold.
As a chairman, I'd always back the manager over any player.
As a fan, I'd love to get a progressive manager in and see him get the absolute best out of Paul Pogba. I think he'd stay but has simply fallen out with Mourinho.
What about if Moyes had wanted to sell De Gea?
After Beckham was sold, after Queiroz came in and we started playing 4-3-3 (4-5-1 according to most fans), after we got knocked out of the Champions League group stages in 2005/06, after Keano was forced out, after we sold Van Nistlerooy and replaced him with a reserve keeper and Carrick...
Manager over players. Always.
Pogba's been asked to do for us what Deschamps asked him to do for France: be disciplined, move the ball fast and pick his moments to go forwards wisely. If he's not doing that its cos he doesn't want to, if you're going to indulge that by picking him over the manager then you may as well make Pogba player coach. Nobody you appoint is going to have any real authority over him.
Can we please stop comparing Mourinho' s standing with the club to Fergie's.I remember some fans saying it was time for Fergie to go after Beckham was sold.
As a chairman, I'd always back the manager over any player.
As a fan, I'd love to get a progressive manager in and see him get the absolute best out of Paul Pogba. I think he'd stay but has simply fallen out with Mourinho.
Well, I'd have never hired Moyes. I'd have sacked him on his first day. Still the most bizarre managerial appointment in my lifetime. Genuinely wouldn't be surprised if one day it was revealed he was just hired to be the post-Fergie "fall guy". It sounds out there and unrealistic, but I can't think of any more sane reason why United hired him. It went exactly as I predicted it would at the time. Ridiculous decision.
I don't know. I don't recall him having any problems with the Juventus manager(s)? Mourinho has fallen out with more than a fair few players.
Of course the sensible thing will be to back the manager ahead of any player. But I'm just a fan. I could wish for us to sign Messi, ditch all our sponsors, hire my Dad as kit man.. Doesn't mean any of it would happen. I just pay to watch a team and I would like to see it entertain me more. Regardless of Pogba, it hasn't happened in half a decade and we haven't got the best out of any top class outfield player in that time.
Mourinho cant get Martial, Pogba, Matic, Sanchez and and Lukaku to string 3 passes together let alone play any form of attacking football.
I wanted him to do well, to build something Special. But as time went on I lost faith. When your best and most creative players start wanting out... The writing is on the wall.
Hey, don't be objective and talk facts when you are talking about mourinho.Huge exaggeration there. Very OTT.
Then have patience. You don't inherit a shit squad in comparison to Chelsea and City and expect massive turnarounds in results and performances in tandem after 2 seasons.
He's done results first and he's working on performances. Statically he's scoring more and conceding less since 2012 and our style of play only went tits up in the second half of the season.
Sorry I didn't put it very well. What I meant is that Mourinho has a history of letting go of players who then go on to great things (which is very much possible in Pogba's case,) and he also has a history of exiting clubs in rather dramatic and sudden fashion. With all that in mind, I can see the argument for keeping Pogba.Sell both.
No one could predict with 100% certainty Moyes' failure but, Moyes had zero history of successfully winning anything. And, you can't have a player running the club.
Huh?
Should Florentino Perez have sided with Mourinho against Ronaldo, Ramos and co.?Manager over players. Always.
Sorry I didn't put it very well. What I meant is that Mourinho has a history of letting go of players who then go on to great things (which is very much possible in Pogba's case,) and he also has a history of exiting clubs in rather dramatic and sudden fashion. With all that in mind, I can see the argument for keeping Pogba.
I absolutely loathe the idea of players (and their agents) being more influential than the manager of the club, so I guess the question would be easier for me were it phrased like this: If you woke up tomorrow to either of the following scenarios, which would you prefer?
a. Mourinho has quit the club.
b. Pogba has been sold.
I would prefer the first, particularly as there would hopefully not be the taint of a player having forced him out.
Yes. Always. One time when you give players power you feck up all future managers. Basically after that they decide who is ok and who is not. And manager does not have control. Manager must have control in squad. AlwaysShould Florentino Perez have sided with Mourinho against Ronaldo, Ramos and co.?
Seriously?Yes. Always. One time when you give players power you feck up all future managers. Basically after that they decide who is ok and who is not. And manager does not have control. Manager must have control in squad. Always
Mou really needs to go, can't stand anything coming from his mouth anymore . Pogba all the way.
I would normally say back the manager but so far, Pogba, Martial and Sanchez are playing poorly and the team is playing like a glorified Stoke city. Surely that's down to the manager?
The second Man Utd decides prioritising players over managers then we may as well remove the Fergie statue from outside Old Trafford. That would be taking a blow torch to his legacy.
Once you surrender control of your coach's future to the players they know all they need to do is down tools to get rid of the guy. How much authority does the manager have in that situation? Look at Chelsea. New coach every two years when the dressing room decides it'd like a change. In that situation what is the consequence of playing badly? What is the consequence of ignoring tactical instructions that lead to opposition goals? There isn't one. You and your mates just sack off the season and the club fires the manager.
I back Mourinho over any player, even De Gea, because if we become a club where a star player can send a text message to the CEO and get the boss gone we're done.
I didn't. I compared the Manchester United fans with the Manchester United fansCan we please stop comparing Mourinho' s standing with the club to Fergie's.
Fergie rebuilt the modern Manchester United.
Fergie was Manchester United.
You really think we are heading the right way with Mou?Oh yes, and get Pogba's agent to be our new manager. I am sure he can dance in front of the press.
Yes I know I could be jumping the gun and making conclusions without concrete evidence, but I do think there could be a certain amount of truth in what's being said. Find it difficult to see a committed Pogba lining up for us in the coming weeks. Feel sure there's been some contact with him and Barcelona pre season.There's no credible source(afaik) that indicates Pogba wants to leave.
Careful what you wish for.You lot seriously need the season to start.
You lot seriously need the season to start.
Jose's the guy who brought Pogba in the first place. Perhaps someone else could go ? I'm sure we have some other candidates.
Why did you change your mind?
Oh, it's just as much as I love Pogba, I can't accept betraying the principle that the manager should rule the roost. Fergie ran the show, and no player got crossed him twice (because he was out of the door). i happen to want Mourinho here and Pogba, but I believe Mourinho, still is the most important person at this football club, not Pogba.
That's quite retro, isn't it? The only roost ruler left in England is Pep, and that's based on overwhelming success and perfect reputation.
