This is literally what you are trying to do.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
This is literally what you are trying to do.
Ok.
This must be some sort of RAWK parody account!? Dark arts...feck me sideways.
Ramos is great, knows he’s a bit of bastard but sure can play to back up his shithousery!
It was reminiscent wasn't it.About Klopp. Has he ever played football? I don't know much about his history really.
Klopp is like your average football fan that talks a lot, and I mean a lot of shit at times and seems to be rather unprofessional compared to your typical manager, but he also happens to be an excellent manager. I've stopped caring about the bullshit he is constantly blabbering about in the media but he has always managed to get the fans, the board and the players behind him so kudos to him for that. Opposition fans always end up despising him though.
But a lot less than 20.
6 defeats out of 7 finals really is an appalling record.
I see the Bootle branch are rocking.
And... yes.
It was staged .
It was staged .
You are so predictable . I knew I'd left meself open with my post and someone would take a swing and it had to be yoooo hoooo.
'Some of us have been operating at a very high level for many years…. not sure he can say the same': Sergio Ramos hits back at Jurgen Klopp over Mohamed Salah controversy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-Liverpool-boss-Klopp-Salah-controversy.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-Liverpool-boss-Klopp-Salah-controversy.html
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25 to life in ADX Florence would be suitable for this crime IMO.
20-18 la.
I think this whole thing is laughable really...
You don't know how the final would have panned out if Salah had stayed on?
We all know how it would have panned out because your goalkeeper made two howlers that cost you two goals!
You don't know how the final would have panned out if Salah had stayed on?
We all know how it would have panned out because your goalkeeper made two howlers that cost you two goals!
The delusion from Liverpool fans is astonishing. Even with Salah on the pitch that night, Madrid has the better, deeper team top to bottom. They would have won one way or another. Stop blaming the loss on cheating.
Agreed; this is so boring from a lot of our fans. If it had been Lovren taking out Ronaldo, would we have been berating Lovren?! Sh## happens, it was unfortunate for us & our chances, but well played to that f###er Ramos! Move on!!
Right, because you never hear managers citing offside goals disallowed, pens given/not given, etc as "what ifs" after every virtually defeat?!
He didn't break any bones. Salah could have played on but picked Egypt over Liverpool and sat out the rest of the final.
I'm guessing you had a few beers last night
Replies with 5 times to a post and then calls other person predictable. Well done.
The best part of that night was, in the aftermath, a few of us suggested that Salah placed Egypt’s concerns above Liverpool’s and the Scousers were apoplectic with rage that we doubted Saint Mo’s dedication to the Anfield Road mob. I have no doubt in my mind that he could’ve played on in that final with various kinds of medical treatment but alas, he didn’t want to jeopardise his World Cup place in doing so.
Why is the game where Liverpool were outclassed all over the pitch by a madrid team in second gear and the weakest they had been in three years still being discussed?
United equalised in 2011 v barca but still didnt look competitive. Liverpool were brushed aside
United equalised in 2011 v barca but still didnt look competitive. Liverpool were brushed aside
Me too. If were living in a world where for some reason the choice is between choosing creepy jurgen and being blinded and miserable.
Mourinhos track record of winning is obviously not relevant to the choice. For some reason.
They are convinced they would have won were it not for Salah's injury.
Unfortunately they ignore the laws of reality.
The likes of Jordan Henderson lifting a CL trophy as CL winning captain is simply never happening.
Yeah of course they would, because football is thst simple. Its why we never lost with ronaldo and barca never lost with messi and of course why liverpool never lost with salah
Ton of that freeze spray/gel bollocks to numb it, bit of painkiller and anti-inflammatory, bit of strapping, jobs a good'un
Bring back the death penalty !
Yep. Salah just didn’t fancy it, however.
Between making excuses for Salah and their absurd actions around the Karius ‘concussion’ spin, the Scousers are not coming out of this well at all. Klopp is still banging on about it, ffs! The media won’t call him out on it, however. I hate to be ‘that guy’ but could you imagine the furore if that had been Mourinho?!
This will be the biggest test and most important season in Jurgen Klopp's managerial career so far. He's spent an absolute fortune on some very good players. He finally has a good GK so can't hide behind Mignolet and Karius not being good enough. Klopp can't play the underdog card this season because he's got one of the best first 11s in the league at his disposal (in my opinion of course, I'm still unsure about that back four but the rest is good enough to challenge for trophies.)
There will be some interesting tactical battles between Liverpool and other big teams too. Chelsea, Arsenal, United, City and Spurs all have very good managers now and they'll find ways to play over/around Klopp's press. Jose has already got Klopp sussed and Pep won't want to lose against Liverpool again this season so will probably reassess how he sets up against them.
I enjoy watching Liverpool but their style of football is hugely overrated at times. Their build up play is actually quite slow - it's only 'rock & roll' when they manage to dispossess their oponent high up the pitch and then quickly get the ball to Mane or Salah.
Anyway, Klopp has to win a trophy this season. Or he'll always be considered the 'nearly man' and not a notorious title winner like Sir Alex, Jose Mourinho and Pep Guardiola. Football fans always remember the trophies. They don't remember the lost finals and fourth place finishes.
I personally think Klopp prefers the 'underdog' tag because with that comes no pressure. But this season, there will be huge pressure.
There will be some interesting tactical battles between Liverpool and other big teams too. Chelsea, Arsenal, United, City and Spurs all have very good managers now and they'll find ways to play over/around Klopp's press. Jose has already got Klopp sussed and Pep won't want to lose against Liverpool again this season so will probably reassess how he sets up against them.
I enjoy watching Liverpool but their style of football is hugely overrated at times. Their build up play is actually quite slow - it's only 'rock & roll' when they manage to dispossess their oponent high up the pitch and then quickly get the ball to Mane or Salah.
Anyway, Klopp has to win a trophy this season. Or he'll always be considered the 'nearly man' and not a notorious title winner like Sir Alex, Jose Mourinho and Pep Guardiola. Football fans always remember the trophies. They don't remember the lost finals and fourth place finishes.
I personally think Klopp prefers the 'underdog' tag because with that comes no pressure. But this season, there will be huge pressure.
Don’t think that klopp is banging on about it at all, he’s asked questions by journos, if the question isn’t asked he wouldn’t be talking about it at all
If there's another trophy less season at Liverpool at what point do questions start to be asked by their supporters?
He's quality entertainment, him and every team i've seen him manage.
That's a bit of a kopout. He's not some slot machine where you insert a coin and something must come out. He can also opt to say "I am not going to talk about that anymore. That was last season and I am focused on this season now."
Many a manager has said something like "that is in the past now, I want to focus on what is ahead" to deflect those sorts of questions. He embraces it every time and the journos ask him every time because they all know he'll bite and they get a nice little headline out of whatever he says. All he had to do was say "I've said all I have to say on the matter" but he doesn't, because he actually loves banging on about it. It keeps all your lot on side and feeds the "if only" narrative that lets you all go to sleep at night believing that you are actually the moral champions of Europe.
I agree that this is a very big year for Klopp.
It's no secret that I'm very critical of him, but I do think we're getting to the "do or die" stage of Klopp's time at Liverpool. Last season they were going to snatch second off us and march to Champions League glory. They ended up losing the CL final and only managed to secure 4th on the final day of the season.
They've invested heavily. They've added strength in depth, and plugged some key gaps in their first XI with some real quality, and now have the most expensive defender ever, and the second most expensive keeper (who was the most expensive up until the other week). They can chirp on about "net-spend" if they wish, but the fact remains that their squad is now one of the more expensively assembled in Europe, never mind England.
I don't think it's fair to say they should expect to win the league, but they should realistically expect to mount a decent title challenge until very late into the season. For what it's worth, I think United need to be looking to do the same. If we get to May 2019 and Liverpool yet again find themselves entering the last round of fixtures having not yet secured a top 4 spot, then I think questions have to be asked. Currently, I'd say City are fairly clear favourites, but both United and Liverpool should be looking to push them all the way. That leaves Chelsea and Spurs to duke it out for 4th, with Arsenal remaining the outsiders of the top 6.
They also have to show real improvement in the cups. The excuse has been a lack of strength in depth, so they've been prioritising the CL and PL, but now they have that strength in depth. Yet another early exit in the FA Cup and another defeat in the League Cup to lesser opposition should be a massive disappointment to them.
The CL is the CL. They'll look to do what they did last year. Reach the quarters and go from there. I don't think any of the English clubs are in a position to look further than that, with the possible exception of City, who I think should possibly be targeting the final.
It's going to be an interesting season. City don't really seemed to have shown any signs of slowing, we've just all assumed they won't repeat last season's feat of running away with after a massive winning streak. United haven't progressed perhaps as much as people expected, but another year and some more investment means we're looking to do better than last year. Liverpool have invested a lot into their squad after securing a CL spot for another season, and off the back of reaching the previous year's final, so they need to show more than scraping 4th. Spurs haven't done much at all, so there's no real basis for expecting improvement, but they will be looking to maintain their spot in the top 4, or risk never getting back in. Chelsea will want to improve markedly on last season, and have the players to do so, it just all depends on how they decide to perform this season. Arsenal are Arsenal, and despite their managerial change, haven't really done anything to suggest they're in a position to really threaten any of the other sides.
They still ask, three months later, as they know Klopp will give them a thesis of quotes on the topic. He can’t help himself. He could nip it in the bud inside sixty seconds of his next press conference when asked again (“The Champions League Final was last season. I want to concentrate on this season so I won’t comment on it any further.”) but no, Klopp loves the limelight and the unlucky lovable loser light the media paints him in.
EDIT: Just read that @B20 said something similar above. In total agreement.
EDIT 2: And @Alex99. I need to read all thread replies before posting, in future.
We're not. From FSG point of view he has moved us from a perrenial 6th/7th placed team to a regular top four team on a shoestring. The fact that we managed to get to the final in the CL in our first try at it is well above expectations.
They are longterm thinkers and as far as they are concerned, Klopp is the ideal person to execute their project and was from the day they took over. He'll get second chances as long as we are in the mix.
How big are your feet that you think he's done everything on a shoestring?