The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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This Omarosa thing serves more as a convenient distraction yet again. While clearly a lot of the things she says don't seem out of the realm of possibilities by any means - she is clearly an attention seeking leach and in the grand scheme of things I'd prefer the media doesn't get sucked into what is ultimately a blip on the radar compared to everything else.
"I am a champion of Civil Rights".
Trump backpedals:
"Some of my bestmaids friends are lowlifes!"
"Some of my best
Giuliani can't lie without laughing.
Credit to a RAWK poster for this:
'According to famous magician Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller, there are tapes.'
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'According to famous magician Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller, there are tapes.'
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Does Mark Burnett have tapes of President Trump saying damaging things during Celebrity Apprentice?
Yeah, I was in the room.
You’ve heard him say …
Oh, yeah.
Can you tell me what you’ve heard him say?
No. If Donald Trump had not become president, I would tell you all the stories. But the stakes are now high and I am an unreliable narrator. What I do, as much as anything, is I’m a storyteller. And storytellers are liars. So I can emotionally tell you things that happened racially, sexually, and that showed stupidity and lack of compassion when I was in the room with Donald Trump and I guarantee you that I will get details wrong. I would not feel comfortable talking about what I felt I saw in that room — because when I was on that show I was sleeping four to five hours a night. I was uncomfortable. “Stress” is the wrong word, but I was not at my best. Then at the end of a day, they put you in a room and they bring out a guy [Trump] who has no power whatsoever and he’s capricious and petty and …
You’ve got to pretend to care what he thinks.
Yeah! It’s your job. You sit at this table and this man rambles — pontificates is giving him too much credit. And because you live in the modern world you’ve heard Trump ramble. But you’ve heard Trump ramble when he thinks he’s being careful. Imagine when he feels he can be frank. And I will tell you things, but I will very conscientiously not give you quotations because I believe that would be morally wrong. I’m not trying to protect myself. This really is a moral thing.
Just so I’m clear: It’s a moral thing because it would be wrong to misquote him or because you don’t want to unduly have an effect on politics?
If he hadn’t become president, I would be telling stories all day long. And if someone were to say, “Penn didn’t get that exactly right,” you’d go “Who cares?”
But now being accurate matters more.
Yeah, the stakes are really high. Not for me. Nothing I can say here hurts my career. But for the world the stakes are higher. He [President Trump] would be reading. And what I’m trying to do here is tell you the story emotionally without telling you specifics.
Okay, I think I follow your logic.
He would say racially insensitive things that made me uncomfortable. I don’t think he ever said anything in that room like “African-Americans are inferior” or anything about rape or grabbing women, but of those two hours every other day in a room with him, every ten minutes was fingernails on chalkboard. He would ask one cast member if he’d rather have sex with this woman or that woman. He would be reading on the web about a real-estate deal he’d made — like he’d sold his house for a certain amount and someone on some blog had said he should have gotten more. Then he would turn and say that making X amount on a house makes him a good businessman, right? I would say to him, “What are you talking about? You don’t know who it is reporting that. Is that Forbes?” He had no idea. So when it came to think about supporting him for president, I digested that information from being on the show with him and said, “Absolutely not. He would be a terrible president.” And because I’d been around him and some people cared what I thought, I said that publicly every chance I got — while also saying he’s a good reality show. You want someone capricious and petty and narcissistic to be on your reality show. And boy, I hate to say this, but playing tapes of him doing that job might be unfair. I want those tapes to be used against him, but it might be unfair.
Because whatever he might’ve said was occurring in the larger context of being on a reality show?
Yeah. You have friends who would say stuff to you over supper that, if you pulled out that chunk, you could ruin their career. But you’ve known them their whole life. You know the exact context. Context is really tricky.
But isn’t there enough of an established behavioral pattern with President Trump that tapes of him saying racially or sexually demeaning things maybe fits into the larger context of who he is and what he thinks?
That is fair. But I can’t stress this enough: I do not respect Donald Trump. Don Junior said — and I’m proud of this — that of everybody who had been on Celebrity Apprentice, I was the one who enjoyed it the most. By the way, I didn’t enjoy it. And I was also the one who liked his father the most. Don Junior said to me, “Why do you like him so much?” And I said, “I made a movie called The Aristocrats.” [Laughs.] I like people when they don’t have filters. I like Tiny Tim. I like Bob Dylan. I like Neil Young. I like Sun Ra. I love the Beat poets. Which means if I’m in a room with Trump I’m happy to hear him talk. But I’m also happy to hear Charlie Manson talk. I have nothing good to say about Donald Trump as president.
Yeah, I was in the room.
You’ve heard him say …
Oh, yeah.
Can you tell me what you’ve heard him say?
No. If Donald Trump had not become president, I would tell you all the stories. But the stakes are now high and I am an unreliable narrator. What I do, as much as anything, is I’m a storyteller. And storytellers are liars. So I can emotionally tell you things that happened racially, sexually, and that showed stupidity and lack of compassion when I was in the room with Donald Trump and I guarantee you that I will get details wrong. I would not feel comfortable talking about what I felt I saw in that room — because when I was on that show I was sleeping four to five hours a night. I was uncomfortable. “Stress” is the wrong word, but I was not at my best. Then at the end of a day, they put you in a room and they bring out a guy [Trump] who has no power whatsoever and he’s capricious and petty and …
You’ve got to pretend to care what he thinks.
Yeah! It’s your job. You sit at this table and this man rambles — pontificates is giving him too much credit. And because you live in the modern world you’ve heard Trump ramble. But you’ve heard Trump ramble when he thinks he’s being careful. Imagine when he feels he can be frank. And I will tell you things, but I will very conscientiously not give you quotations because I believe that would be morally wrong. I’m not trying to protect myself. This really is a moral thing.
Just so I’m clear: It’s a moral thing because it would be wrong to misquote him or because you don’t want to unduly have an effect on politics?
If he hadn’t become president, I would be telling stories all day long. And if someone were to say, “Penn didn’t get that exactly right,” you’d go “Who cares?”
But now being accurate matters more.
Yeah, the stakes are really high. Not for me. Nothing I can say here hurts my career. But for the world the stakes are higher. He [President Trump] would be reading. And what I’m trying to do here is tell you the story emotionally without telling you specifics.
Okay, I think I follow your logic.
He would say racially insensitive things that made me uncomfortable. I don’t think he ever said anything in that room like “African-Americans are inferior” or anything about rape or grabbing women, but of those two hours every other day in a room with him, every ten minutes was fingernails on chalkboard. He would ask one cast member if he’d rather have sex with this woman or that woman. He would be reading on the web about a real-estate deal he’d made — like he’d sold his house for a certain amount and someone on some blog had said he should have gotten more. Then he would turn and say that making X amount on a house makes him a good businessman, right? I would say to him, “What are you talking about? You don’t know who it is reporting that. Is that Forbes?” He had no idea. So when it came to think about supporting him for president, I digested that information from being on the show with him and said, “Absolutely not. He would be a terrible president.” And because I’d been around him and some people cared what I thought, I said that publicly every chance I got — while also saying he’s a good reality show. You want someone capricious and petty and narcissistic to be on your reality show. And boy, I hate to say this, but playing tapes of him doing that job might be unfair. I want those tapes to be used against him, but it might be unfair.
Because whatever he might’ve said was occurring in the larger context of being on a reality show?
Yeah. You have friends who would say stuff to you over supper that, if you pulled out that chunk, you could ruin their career. But you’ve known them their whole life. You know the exact context. Context is really tricky.
But isn’t there enough of an established behavioral pattern with President Trump that tapes of him saying racially or sexually demeaning things maybe fits into the larger context of who he is and what he thinks?
That is fair. But I can’t stress this enough: I do not respect Donald Trump. Don Junior said — and I’m proud of this — that of everybody who had been on Celebrity Apprentice, I was the one who enjoyed it the most. By the way, I didn’t enjoy it. And I was also the one who liked his father the most. Don Junior said to me, “Why do you like him so much?” And I said, “I made a movie called The Aristocrats.” [Laughs.] I like people when they don’t have filters. I like Tiny Tim. I like Bob Dylan. I like Neil Young. I like Sun Ra. I love the Beat poets. Which means if I’m in a room with Trump I’m happy to hear him talk. But I’m also happy to hear Charlie Manson talk. I have nothing good to say about Donald Trump as president.
It's not a nice thing for me to say but if anyone was interested in the whereabouts of @Hectic 's infamous nightbeast, I believe she is working as the White House Press Secretary.
And Rudy's looking like Danny DeVito's Penguin.
I form no opinion tbh. Which I thinks important because it's not worth it. According to the stats, there is improvement in where America is headed. If Clinton had have got in, you would have got someone not doing this but we'd probably be in another war. Trump is like anyone who talks to much and who has no filter. Nothing should shock anyone by now because at his age and where he's gotten (rightly or wrongly), he's not going to change. So let's get over it. This is all pandering to the lowest denominator. It is NOT important. Much of it is panto to generate opinions in those who DO matter ie you. We know that political correctness has been dominating for a long time, this actually pushes back on it but if you take these things as separate, then they're stupid but there is always a method to what appears as madness.
Let's not.
Why not? Did it happen to you? Perhaps if people focused on themselves rather then letting others rile them up, this wouldn't keep happening? Because your life will go on. This is just a show. Is it part of your life that you won't be able to sleep or go to work or raise a family etc etc? These mediums mean sweet fa when it comes to anything that matters. Anyone shocked by trump in 2018 hasn't been paying attention but tbh, the novelty wears off and we move on because everyone has these agendas/beliefs/books they plan to write/secrets....and if we thought about it with any depth...we'd realize life is much to short to give a bleep trying to defend people/events or whatever that we don't know or aren't part of or don't know the backstory too
Besides, Treblinka's behind that hill.
Reality is not even real, man.
"I form no opinion tbh", followed by nothing but opinions.
"I have a lot of black, disable and gay friends". Coming out with something like this soon.
In Trump's world this also includes anyone that is not white.
Fox News host shuts down former Trump apologist Katrina Pierson
Don't like Omarosa , but Katrina Pierson is just as bad ,and to see her squirming when confronted with facts was nice to see. And if Omarosa as more tapes and they are as accurate as that then no wonder the WH is in panic mode.
Don't like Omarosa , but Katrina Pierson is just as bad ,and to see her squirming when confronted with facts was nice to see. And if Omarosa as more tapes and they are as accurate as that then no wonder the WH is in panic mode.
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Classic, "it doesn't impact me so who cares". feck off.
What a ridiculous post.
Repackaging the president of America calling someone a dog, as racism makes it very easy to get laughed at.
If she was white and she got called a dog there's a huge issue.
The fact she black gets it repackaged as racism and the point gets lost.
America: get your fecking head out of your arse. You're pathetic. All 250+ million of you.
This is the head of your country. Your representative to the rest of the world. Both symbolically and literally.
He called a human being a dog. Not figuratively. Not nuanced. It's not implied. He wrote it. As the capstone of a huge attack on her as a person.
Get rid of him. Every interview from now until he apologised should start with : "We need you to apologise for calling a staff member a dog". Just that. No other questions. Hold the guy to account.
If the people, the media, the whole country doesn't, they're complicit in the act.
Draw a fecking line somewhere. The whole country is a joke from top to bottom and is showing itself to be a bunch of compliant sheep.
"Look, I'm not a Trump supporter, but look at all the great things he's doing..."
Rudy?
Sounds like a more formal version of the Suarez defense.
let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be,
when Trump deports your family, let it be
Let me see. My wife's job is on the line because of the cuts in Medicaid. Our health insurance cost just got a 35%. I'm an immigrant in this country so i have to be aware. Friends and work colleagues are seen in a new light who up until they voted for trump you would not have guessed they felt that way.
It may look like reality tv but we have real world consequences for hundreds of millions of people. Glad you're entertained though.
You think you're woke, but in reality you're just deluded.
The classic, I didn’t get a higher education but I did acid and read things on the internet and dark web type.
Here here! Well said.
Trump just revoked Brennan's security clearance....after the below tweet a couple of days ago. 
If only the deep state were as powerful as they have been accused by left and right over the years...
Fml!
Yeah. It was reported at the time. Surprised the media didn't really make a big deal about it.
lmao john brennan is a bitch and this is great
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