Then that falls on the board for letting people buy the wrong players, because they do not have the knowledge to say no, until recently and some are so power hungry they will not admit a DOF might be a good idea.
Mourinho: 'I think that some care more than others'
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Is one of the manager’s most important roles not to motivate the players, keep them focused and keep spirits high? Yeah there’s a few whingy players but that doesn’t account for the whole team being shit and lacking motivation.
You just hate rich people or something?
No we have not and the players Mourinho is having the biggest problems with right now are players that were signed during his tenure.
There's blame all around, but him just acting like he has no responsibility in this debacle whilst earning £15M? a year really irks me. Imagine getting more than £1M a month and expecting you have no responsibility if things go wrong
Wage structure for managers and players need looking at imho.
If a player doesn't know after 3 seasons he should be taken to the glue factory.
Coaching them how to attack helps as well, so they don't look clueless when they actually do try to attack. Football is not all about defending, scoring goals help as well.
I don't think Mourinho cares, if he does he would've actually signed some decent attacking players that you know.. can actually beat a man.
He'll be antagonising until the results get bad enough so he's sacked, then he'll collect the £15m payout and leave a happy man.
He'll be antagonising until the results get bad enough so he's sacked, then he'll collect the £15m payout and leave a happy man.
Their responsibilities extend beyond just playing for the manager.
He should name and shame the ones who have decided it's acceptable to make a mockery of the club they play for and the fans who support it.
He should name and shame the ones who have decided it's acceptable to make a mockery of the club they play for and the fans who support it.
People are slating the players, but at least they do try to take some responsibility are bad performances. Jose never, ever takes any. He just shifts the blame onto anyone but himself.There's blame all around, but him just acting like he has no responsibility in this debacle whilst earning £15M? a year really irks me. Imagine getting more than £1M a month and expecting you have no responsibility if things go wrong
Wage structure for managers and players need looking at imho.
Woodward didn't fancy Willian or Perisic.
He won't be happy though.... unlike the other times, there are no more big clubs waiting to snatch him up. That will hit his ego and no amount of money will help.
Correct. That's not reflected in this thread those is it? As I've said, some posters dislike for Jose has led them to oppose absolutely everything he says and does. The lack of professionalism from some players is inexcusable.
Don’t be silly.
Manager just gives a shortlist of players to buy. Tells players to score goals and not concede. Then proceeds to slag them off continually if they aren’t brilliant.
Or at least that’s what we seem to be paying for currently.
Absolutely. He doesn't care about anyone or anything but himself. Has no empathy in any part of his body.
About 5 decent wide forwards moved this summer that weren't those two. Off the top of my head - Mahrez, Malcom, Lemar, Gelson Martins, Felipe Anderson.
I feel like Mourinho could say that the Sky is blue and people will find hidden messages to extrapolate.
Mourinho:
I think we need to examine this quote as well.
Mourinho:
I think we need to examine this quote as well.
I'm seriously beginning to warm to the idea of Keane being manager until the end of the season.
If you look at Jose's history, he cares. He cares about winning. That is what we want for our club! He also cares that he gets the support from above him to get the club to winning ways. If he doesn't get the support from above him, that's when things go bad. He has come out and said that he is being asked to be a coach instead of a manager. That is pretty clear and damning. He can't coach a bunch of players who doesn't have the same winning mentality. You need to build a team with enough players who want to win as bad as he does. Look at his porto side who many are becoming successful managers of their own, look at his inter side, etc...
They’re not my points. I see you’re in category b. Fair enough.
He no doubt has a point. It's still largely on him though. It wouldn't have happened under Fergie. It's up to the manager who comes in/out. It's up to the manager to motivate regardless, and despite some players seemingly not being the easiest to deal with, I don't think he's getting the most out of them.
There's blame all around, but him just acting like he has no responsibility in this debacle whilst earning £15M? a year really irks me. Imagine getting more than £1M a month and expecting you have no responsibility if things go wrong
Wage structure for managers and players need looking at imho.
I feel that when you put certain accusations out there, then the only responsible thing is to support your allegations with facts/proof. Otherwise this all comes off as character assassination.
Christ, that MNF stat. Bottom of the sprints chart with 58. Closest to us is Wolves with 77. Nobody wants to play for him.
Also him saying some players don't care. I think that is actually only a small number, Pogba, Sanchez and maybe Martial. I highly doubt it is any of the others. The others are suffering from lack of confidence and guidance. In fact he might be saying some, when he is actually having yet another dig at Pogba but isn't brave enough to actually name him, so makes it sound like there are a number of players.
Mourinho stating the obvious
Yes our players are all going to be afraid of big bad Roy Keane the same one the Irish national team laughs at. The one who has Jon Walters standing up to him.
I am going to have to slow down. I am so riled my grammar has gone to pot.
Things are going wrong and he hasn't once taken responsibility. What more proof do you want? "Character assassination?" Are you serious?
The club pays their salary. So basically they have no respect for the club? I want Mourinho gone as much as the next, but if what you say is true, then its disgraceful behaviour from these, so called, professionals and they wont change whoever the manager is.
I am going to have to slow down. I am so riled my grammar has gone to pot.
He does get me all riled up too. Anyway, let's see him try to earn his pay cheque tomorrow.
The blame in the end rest with the board. It's clear there really no longer term thinking be hide who the club both appoints as manager and the buying of players. The LVG appointment looked like the board wanted a ''barca model'' with long term planning with possibly Giggs taking over after LVG but when that went to shit, we suddenly decide to turned into Madrid mid 2000's, brought big name players and one of the best managers of all time in. It works on Fifa so what could go wrong.
I think what we are seeing is a failure of long term planing but also just a bit luck as well. There's actual no correct way of doing things at a football club that will guarantee success. We've won a few cups and had some good highlights since Fergie left which was more than I'm expecting and it's also more than
Oh stop you'll make me blush.
But no seriously I hate rich people.
DDG
Valencia
Young
Shaw
Matic
Fellaini
Herrera
Mata
Rashford
Lukaku
IMO All give 100% and show passion for being a Manchester united player, whether they’re good enough to be here is a different argument.
Valencia
Young
Shaw
Matic
Fellaini
Herrera
Mata
Rashford
Lukaku
IMO All give 100% and show passion for being a Manchester united player, whether they’re good enough to be here is a different argument.
I remember similar statements like this with Chelsea, funny how it always seems to happen to only him
The idea that Keane was some Champion for a managers authority is laughable. It's moronic in fact if you know anything about the man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saipan_incident
cCarthy decided to question Keane about the article. In a team meeting McCarthy held up a copy of the article and asked "What's this all about?", and an argument started. McCarthy then accused Keane of faking injury when Ireland were playing Iran in the second leg of the play off. Keane then unleashed a stinging verbal tirade against McCarthy: "Mick, you're a liar … you're a fecking wanker. I didn't rate you as a player, I don't rate you as a manager, and I don't rate you as a person. You're a fecking wanker and you can stick your World Cup up your arse. The only reason I have any dealings with you is that somehow you are the manager of my country! You can stick it up your bollocks."[4] Mick McCarthy then held a press conference announcing that he had sent Keane home.[5]
Hmm, now does this sound like someone we know?
There are numerous posts in various threads openly critical of the players for:
Not performing
Not caring
So when the manager says that some players care more than others which is perfectly true and echoes what many supporters think, he is most likely to saying it to get a reaction.
Not performing
Not caring
So when the manager says that some players care more than others which is perfectly true and echoes what many supporters think, he is most likely to saying it to get a reaction.
Different circumstance. Keane is somewhat of a club legend and would get full backing for the time involved.
Except the players who he says don't care, might not care what he says anyway.
According to him Kevin De Bruyne didn't train hard enough. It's why he never got a chance - wonder why that complaint has never been raised in the 5 years since De Bruyne left Mourinho.
More finger pointing and hanging of dirty laundry outside is going to achieve the sum total of nada
That's batshit.