She could have explained that it was a fecking turd, and navigated us around it.... Shit, feck am I thinking?
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Raab has a feckin nerve resigning in a huff after being the chief negotiator! What a cnut
Well, yes, I guess she siezed the opportunity to be PM. But you can't hold ambition against people. I don't think there has been a more difficult job for a PM in my lifetime. Brexit is genuinely complex, intractable, which is why I feel sorry for her.
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There's a lot of people looking at it and asking for it now. I'm kinda pessimistic on it too, but what happens if you ignore those people and just go ahead and potentially feck the country?
Apparently Raab was frozen out (maybe a good job given his confusion over the port of Dover) and the civil servants negotiated it with direct instructions from May. So this might be piqued personal pride as much as principle.
Have no sympathy for her whatsoever.Her policies have hurt a lot of people including Windrush. And like Cameron she will land on her feet in a cushy job when this is over.
Why can’t they just say that we’re not prepared for this as a country, let’s get our prep done, let’s educate the country properly, let’s get plans done properly and revisit it in say
People saying he was Brexit Secretary in name only and that the deal was negotiated by Olly Robbins and Theresa May.
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I think I'm expecting the very worst i.e. we lurch out with no deal. That would be an economic and social disaster for the UK and far far worse for Ireland.
How do we get to the 3rd option - no brexit?
Sounds good to me
I mean how do those people react? I don't think they'll be rolling over, there will be a reaction...
I dunno. I can't see May going for it and if she falls a hardliner willbecome PM.
Even if the government falls doesn't that mean hard Brexit?
I can't see the series of events that might lead to a second vote. I wish I could.
I dread to think.
I hate Brexit but this blanket empty ''educate the people'' stuff is the worst.
This isn't how politics functions at all.
What do you think a second vote would achieve other than decide to Remain and cancel the whole thing? Trying to get a different deal from the EU is not on the cards.
I think May might be gone by the end of the day, only to be replaced by something even worse.
What? More information is ideally how politics should be. Informed decisions...
That bit
Disagree with that last clause. It would be a disaster for Ireland. But clearly far worse for the UK. Unless you’re talking about Northern Ireland?
Yep. All talks would have broken down irretrievably by now. We would be driving off the cliff having lost the respect and friendship of our closest neighbours. Trump would have declared Boris a "great guy doing a great job" and given us three fifths of feck all in terms of a trade arrangement. We would be floating in the middle of the Atlantic with no friends, no deals, 4 million unemployed and a pound worth 50c.
But there would be 40 odd back-benchers and 17.2m people waiving flags singing "If you're happy and you know it clap your hands"
It may even come to that!
Mainly although economically a hard border would be bad for Eire and a return to the murder and mayhem of The Troubles would be very bad indeed for all of Ireland.
The UK in general will suffer socially and economically which will be bad enough but .....
I fear the UK is royally screwed.
If we leave millions of people will be poorer, huge numbers of job losses will occur and we will be left with decades of lost growth.
If we remain then we leave millions feeling disenfranchised and abandoned by politics.
What a fun choice.
If we remain then we leave millions feeling disenfranchised and abandoned by politics.
What a fun choice.
That's obviously what Gove is, I was trying to assess how successful he will be at it.
Option 2 it is then!
As an old fecker with young kids. I'd much rather the older lot be left feeling disenfranchised than the younger lot, who would also have to deal with the fallout...
Huh? Do you think everyone knew what they were voting for? A lot of things only came to light after the vote such as hard or soft brexit. This wasn’t an informed vote for the masses
And I hold both the Tories and Labour responsible for stoking anti-EU sentiment over decades by using them as a punching bag for anything and everything that went wrong in the UK.
From what I've seen on this board, most of the disenfranchised people abandoned by politics don't even live in the UK for it to matter to them anyway.
This.
Anyone hear Rory Stewart on 5Live? What a bell.
Yes I think if may goes then its Hard brexit... The last conservative leadership election took around 8 weeks
So over Xmas I think your looking at least the same... Even if somehow some hard brexiteer didn't win there wouldn't be time for legistlation to prevent a hard brexit anyway
My page keeps saying "show ignored content". I've not ignored anyone.
Presumably if the former occurs, the latter happens anyway (i.e. you promised us a golden future and we’re now screwed). So it’s better to avoid the economic calamity and then address the alienation question from a position of economic strength.
If May goes it's likely that a hardline Brexiter replaces her? Added to the fact that the opposition leader has outright stated that Brexit can't be stopped, it seems like a no deal is by far the most likely outcome.
It will be an economic disaster for sure. I’m in NI and we’ll be fecked on all fronts. Poor Donegal too – N15 will be busy.
That said I doubt there’ll be any significant return to violence. While the tensions between Nationalists/Unionists are high I don’t see any sort of call to arms happening anytime soon. People too busy playing Fortnite for that shit.
This might seem callous but The Troubles were always far more of an issue for people living in the North (and other parts of the Uk) than they were in the South. As compassionate human beings none of us want to see widespread violence in the North again but, as things stand, that would be a UK problem. Along with all the other UK problems churned up by Brexit.
Obviously, the prospect of a united Ireland seems a bit more likely now. In which case this would no longer be the case. Most people in Ireland see that outcome as an overall positive though.
Does this guy ever say anything else?
Why don't you just feck off!
Why don't you just feck off!