I agree. Smalling is better than those guys, but I think Southgate is just taking the same approach for Hart. I don't think McCarthy or the Fulham keeper better than Hart. But as they are not first choice players he's given the place in the squad to players who will appreciate just being their and not a player who will be thinking they should be playing, potentially upsetting the dressing room slightly.
England vs USA & Croatia | Its coming home
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Why is Eric Dier in the squad?!
Rooney’s passing range and touch is still pretty good. His legs have gone though 
We aren't exactly blessed with many defensive midfielders. If only Carrick was 10 years younger, he'd actually get the caps he deserved.
His legs went at about 26 lol.Rooney’s passing range and touch is still pretty good. His legs have gone though
England vs Croatia is going to be an absolute banger
The horrors of Wembley 07' are coming back to me though..
Because he's playing regularly for DC and given important and he was past the age where we could do that for him. Win win for both so no need to be bitter!
US have no quality apart from Pulisic
Bolt looking bored, planning his next pointless venture.
Thanks Wayne
Great pass from TAA and then that cross from Sancho. Rooney just too old to get on the end of it.
To be honest Rooney hasn't looked out of place at all 
Wazza could still play for us. Not sure if that's more telling of his quality or (lack of) ours.
Ali and Lingard are an interesting(well maybe) comparison piece. Taken away from their club comfort zones Lingard, comfortably, looks the better, more technically adept player of the 2. Not basing this on a one off but their international performances over a number of years.
Can you hear me Donald Trump! Your boys took one hell of a beating!
To be honest Rooney hasn't looked out of place at all
He played well tbh. Creative, good range of passing.
Nah did you not hear? Mourinho is getting the best out of his players.
Hopefully time and distance away from Old Trafford will allow some people to judge Rooney without agenda. The hatred he got towards the end was classless.
We're a couple centre backs and central midfielders away from being up there with the big boys.
Agree, the guy is the top scorer for Utd and England, he should be a legendary figure. More importantly beyond the numbers he gave us some incredible moments that will stay with me for a very long time and he was never a selfish player, put the team first, was willing to sacrifice individual accolades to win.
Why go to the game just to boo him? Can't understand that. Just don't go...
I can understand why though. Nothing to do with him playing for utd. Mainly because he's all the worst things about English football. Drinking led to him being finished at the top level by 30, seemingly endlessly greedy, caught DUI with some girl and the driving ban didnt even expire yet... Yet honoured by England, what a shower.
Great example to the other England lads. Don't worry, no need to have any self discipline or actually win any trophies, just go out and be a drunken moron. The FA will still honour you with a send off.
So, as I understand the permutations for England vs Croatia:
1) If either side wins they win the group, loser is relegated.
2) A draw and Spain win the group.
3) A goalless draw would see Croatia relegated on goal difference, a score draw and England would be relegated (Croatia ahead on head-to-head away goals).
1) If either side wins they win the group, loser is relegated.
2) A draw and Spain win the group.
3) A goalless draw would see Croatia relegated on goal difference, a score draw and England would be relegated (Croatia ahead on head-to-head away goals).
Because he’s not shunted to right wing and the centre forward moves around more. He thrives on movement
Got tickets to the Croatia game so I'm buzzing!
Would be great if we beat you guys.
Anyway, truly remarkable career Wayne had, England and United legend, enjoy retirement.
Anyway, truly remarkable career Wayne had, England and United legend, enjoy retirement.
He's all the worst things about English football? The drinking is pretty shit. Most players are greedy, it is why they aren't playing for peanuts. Caught dui? You mean like the Ivorian Toure? The Frenchman Lloris? The Spaniard (who killed someone while drink driving and seemingly paid his way out of it) Alonso? Brazilian Firmino? Italian Verratti? I mean this is not a uniquely English trait is it?
He is honoured by England, in a bloody meaningless friendly, because he is England's second most capped player, England's top ever scorer, English football's most successful club's top ever scorer and an everpresent during their most successful period in history. The premier league's 2nd top ever scorer and in the history of English football, 22nd top ever scorer. He's won literally every single club trophy possible.
So tell me again why he is such a bad example to the younger generation? He has achieved almost everything he could. He was also a bit of an ass of a person. What else is new?
Some people will find anything to moan about.
Anyone else thinking relegation is on the cards today? I've got my negative pants on. Think it'll be a score draw which sees us down, doesn't it? Then we'll probably get put in the same group as Germany
Confident England will win. The team and the crowd should be up for it.
Gotta be honest, I don't really understand what relegation means in this competition. Harder to qualify for the Euros?
If it means a couple of games against Germany then that's cool.
If it means a couple of games against Germany then that's cool.
Just easier competition in the next Nations League cycle. Theoretically, easier to qualify for the Euros as well.
Isn't Nations league a two year thing? So next cycle will be in 2020, is it being used for World cup qualifying?
Doubt the F.A. would be so happy if we get rubbish opposition and they cannot fill their stadium. That has been the good thing about this, being drawn with teams the fans would actually like to come and watch. Our luck we won't get Germany.
For the Euro's it can mean ending up in pot 2 for the qualifiers. The worst 2 teams of the 4 that get relegated from the A divisions will end up with that.
Relegation would also mean you'd end up in pot 2 or 3 for the World Cup qualifiers, assuming they're gonna follow the same plan they're using for the Euro's.
They would never put 2 teams that they need to go straight back up to the A pool in the same group together. It will take a year to win promotion again for one team in each group only. The only way we'll meet Germany in the Nations League is when we're both in the same A group. #HotBalls
That is a good point. Maybe I am wrong but I do feel that one of the reasons why United players seem to not really work hard enough is in part due to the very high wages they are on.
Now I know that some will say that City players are on high wages as well but I am not saying it is only the high wages. I am saying it is a contributing factor.